Obamacare Fuck Up

[xfire]

under Reagan, jobs and economy were very doing well, please don't tell me that it wasn't the case

Under Reagan the National Debt tripled from $900 billion to $2.85 trillion and the debt ceiling was raised 18 times. Jobs and the economy were performing at about the same rate as they are currently.

 

[Mariahxxx]

waging 1 of the 2 wars that democrats voted for because they were lied to about the reason for the war.

I dont blame obama for his reminding them who is in the minority. the dont fucking act like they are. they make demands as if they own the place, when they dont. someone needs to remind them of their status.

and as far as smugness goes, remember who said "if you aren't with us you're against us" ???? and how about "I'm not here to do what's popular, I'm here to do what I think is right" pretty smug too.

 

[Jack Davenport]

under Reagan, jobs and economy were very doing well, please don't tell me that it wasn't the case

Ok xman. I'll split the tab with you. But Bush never said Elections have consequences.. Although he is right and we are witnessing it unfold right now. That 6 tril that was run up was 50/50 Dem Rep. So the way I see it, your side is responsible for 3 of what happened on Bush's watch and at least 5 of the 7 that has happend on Obama's. Congratulations your side owns 8 tril in debt in the past 13 years. Half of what it took the previous 200 years to accumulate. And no end in sight.

 

[Mariahxxx]

under reagan the middle class took the hardest hit. and let's not forget the market crash of 1987.

reagan also had the sense to raise taxes to pay for some of the spending. these fucking hicks have all signed a pledge to never raise taxes again no matter what. how fucking stupid economics is that?

 

[Mariahxxx]

the deficit is dropping faster than at any time in the last 70 years. jobs are gaining, slowly but gaining and the market is booming. what the fuck are you bitching about?

 

[xfire]

Ok xman. I'll split the tab with you. But Bush never said Elections have consequences.. Although he is right and we are witnessing it unfold right now. That 6 tril that was run up was 50/50 Dem Rep. So the way I see it, your side is responsible for 3 of what happened on Bush's watch and at least 5 of the 7 that has happend on Obama's. Congratulations your side owns 8 tril in debt in the past 13 years. Half of what it took the previous 200 years to accumulate. And no end in sight.

The National Debt is close to $16 trillion, so let's assume, for the sake of argument what you posted above is accurate (it's not), your party is responsible for the other $8 trillion, YET your side claims to be "fiscally conservative". Please explain how that works.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Under Reagan the National Debt tripled from $900 billion to $2.85 trillion and the debt ceiling was raised 18 times. Jobs and the economy were performing at about the same rate as they are currently.

Are you fucking kidding me! Greatest peacetime expansion in our nation's history. The debt increased under Reagan because our military was depleted in only 4 years under that hillbilly from Plains Georgia. The Soviet Union was escalating the arms race and it took trillions to catch up. Breshnev and Andropov were invading their neighbors if they looked at them crosseyed. The debt ceiling was raised through real bipartisanship that Reagan mastered to get tax cuts and to build the military. Wanna compare GDP under Reagan to Obama? Bring it! Reagan left office as a net tax cutter. Please run yovr revisionist history game on the low information drones and the stupid. Can't disagree that it's not working. The wheels are coming off on Obamascare. Even Jon Stewart says he has never seen a president as out of the loop as Obama. The Fed keeps printing more money and offering stimulus to appease Wall Street knowing that investors get a hard on when interest rates are low. What we have here is a Federal Reserve trying to play catch up with a big spending administration who are NOT creating any real growth in jobs or our economy. Sell that **** to somebody else.

 

[xfire]

Are you fucking kidding me! Greatest peacetime expansion in our nation's history. The debt increased under Reagan because our military was depleted in only 4 years under that hillbilly from Plains Georgia. The Soviet Union was escalating the arms race and it took trillions to catch up. Breshnev and Andropov were invading their neighbors if they looked at them crosseyed. The debt ceiling was raised through real bipartisanship that Reagan mastered to get tax cuts and to build the military. Wanna compare GDP under Reagan to Obama? Bring it! Reagan left office as a net tax cutter. Please run yovr revisionist history game on the low information drones and the stupid. Can't disagree that it's not working. The wheels are coming off on Obamascare. Even Jon Stewart says he has never seen a president as out of the loop as Obama. The Fed keeps printing more money and offering stimulus to appease Wall Street knowing that investors get a hard on when interest rates are low. What we have here is a Federal Reserve trying to play catch up with a big spending administration who are NOT creating any real growth in jobs or our economy. Sell that **** to somebody else.

Yeah, you didn't explain how your party, which you admit is responsible for $8 trillion worth of National Debt, though in reality Reagan/Bush/Bush policies are responsible for 92% of the entire National Debt, is "fiscally responsible".

 

[Jack Davenport]

the deficit is dropping faster than at any time in the last 70 years. jobs are gaining, slowly but gaining and the market is booming. what the fuck are you bitching about?

I already exposed this lie on the debt ceiling thread and you are so fucking stupid that you bring it up again. God you are glutton for punishment. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEBT AND DEFICITS. Instead of being a around the clock pussy hound, your time would be better spent taking a few night classes in economics at Pasco County Community College. You have not demonstrated one ounce of understanding of even the basics of economics. A 20 in your garter 101 isn't going to get you a job at Bank Of America.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Yeah, you didn't explain how your party, which you admit is responsible for $8 trillion worth of National Debt, though in reality Reagan/Bush/Bush policies are responsible for 92% of the entire National Debt, is "fiscally responsible".

Let's get something straight here. I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. Deal making establishment repubs have contributed to this mess no doubt. But the true conservatives likd Cruz are fighting them on this and you are leading the charge against them If spending bothers you which it doesn't, put them in charge and see what happens to deficits and debt. .

 

[xfire]

Are you fucking kidding me! Greatest peacetime expansion in our nation's history.

The greatest peacetime expansion in our nation's history occurred during the Clinton administration. You're seriously going to accuse others of being "low information voters" when you can't even get a simple, easily verifiable fact correct? And I truly hope you don't intend to continue the Ad Hominem's, it really doesn't help your argument.

Let's get something straight here. I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. Deal making establishment repubs have contributed to this mess no doubt. But the true conservatives likd Cruz are fighting them on this and you are leading the charge against them If spending bothers you which it doesn't, put them in charge and see what happens to deficits and debt. .

How exactly do you figure Ted Cruz, who had a huge hand in the $28 billion government shutdown, is "fighting them on this"? People like Ted Cruz will never be in charge, because they represent a far right fringe minority. 30+ years of Reaganomics is what's wrong with our economy, and it would be an easy fix if the GOP would get out of the way and let the adults take care of the finances.

 

[Jack Davenport]

The greatest peacetime expansion in our nation's history occurred during the Clinton administration. You're seriously going to accuse others of being "low information voters" when you can't even get a simple, easily verifiable fact correct? And I truly hope you don't intend to continue the Ad Hominem's, it really doesn't help your argument.



How exactly do you figure Ted Cruz, who had a huge hand in the $28 billion government shutdown, is "fighting them on this"? People like Ted Cruz will never be in charge, because they represent a far right fringe minority. 30+ years of Reaganomics is what's wrong with our economy, and it would be an easy fix if the GOP would get out of the way and let the adults take care of the finances.

The greatest peacetime expansion was under Reagan. Don't confuse tech bubbles and uncorrected financial markets in the equation if you want to be taken seriously. Clinton followed the Reagan model in dealing with the opposition to his credit. Pray tell the adult like spending discipline exercised by these democrats. I need a good laugh this morning. You are talking about the 24 billion during the shutdown? Let's talk about the 900 billion lost during the failed Obama stimulus of 2009. You are starting to lose all credibility with me. Thore poor furloughed workerr that were reimbursed every penny? Pathetic.

 

[xfire]

The greatest peacetime expansion was under Reagan. Don't confuse tech bubbles and uncorrected financial markets in the equation if you want to be taken seriously. Clinton followed the Reagan model in dealing with the opposition to his credit. Pray tell the adult like spending discipline exercised by these democrats. I need a good laugh this morning. You are talking about the 24 billion during the shutdown? Let's talk about the 900 billion lost during the failed Obama stimulus of 2009. You are starting to lose all credibility with me. Thore poor furloughed workerr that were reimbursed every penny? Pathetic.

Don't confuse deficit spending with expansion, ala Ronald Reagan and trickle down theory. Every problem we currently have with the National Debt and the economy goes right back to Reagan. Don't lecture me about my credibility, seems every time you argue with someone that's one of your go to declarations.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Don't confuse deficit spending with expansion, ala Ronald Reagan and trickle down theory. Every problem we currently have with the National Debt and the economy goes right back to Reagan. Don't lecture me about my credibility, seems every time you argue with someone that's one of your go to declarations.

Reagan's brand of supply side economics hasn't been tried well. since Reagan. Now accept my friend request. I **** rejection especially public rejection. I need a few more commie friends

 

[ApolloBalboa]

About Obama, it is very fair to said even if I will be blamed to be very vulgar that he somehow "cornholed" a big bunch of his voters, big bullshit talk with loads of hype and what do you get at the end? A fucking leftist dumbass clueless mess with a screwed up healthcare. Astonishing, ain't it eh? No, not at all. Why isn't astonishing for me that you got fucking lied with this reform? Because you gave a guy with **** poor experience in politics too much credit and confidence, you based your vote on hype and sympathetic appearance instead of real political experience (which Romney had) which is not the best way to vote. You know now who to vote for for the midterms elections, not for the party of liberal bullshitters.

georges, apparently you don't understand politics as well as you claim to. Did Obama speak extravagantly in his campaign to be (re)elected? He might have, but it's no different than other any other politician running for office, and certainly no different than your champion Reagan was. I don't recall anyone here saying that they voted for him because of his appearance, sympathetic or not, the hype surrounding him, or the fact that he might've been black. People voted for him despite his lack of political experience because nothing Romney said made sense. Does that make them stupid? No, it means that they can read between the lines and understand that talking about a 5-point plan without going into specifics as to what said plan entails doesn't translate into confidence in someone's Presidential skills. For all your malice directed at the ACA, you do realize that it was based off something Romney put forth? I don't hear you complaining about what a liar or idiot he was.

As I'd mentioned before, my ****** now benefits from the ACA, and she's very sick, so without that she wouldn't have any way of paying for her treatments. It's nice to know that you don't consider her pain worthy enough of receiving health insurance, because apparently without a job providing it for her she's nothing but a sponge and a leech.

When Johan would post threads in the past about American politics, he'd be called out as having no idea what he was talking about, by certain members and by yourself as well. Why should you be treated any different? Because you've visited here 9 times? You don't have a damn idea what goes on here aside from what you read and then feel the need to post, as evidenced by your Benghazi shitstorm thread.

I know how to vote for in the midterm elections, and it won't be the Republicans. Actually, it won't be anybody, but if I had to, it sure as hell wouldn't be the Republicans. Why? Because apparently I'm no better than a gangbanger selling ***** and bringing you down by having access to health insurance.

 

[xfire]

Reagan's brand of supply side economics hasn't been tried well. since Reagan. Now accept my friend request. I **** rejection especially public rejection. I need a few more commie friends

George Herbert Walker Bush knew that Voodoo Economics was a flawed theory, hell he's the one that came up with the term Voodoo Economics to describe it. George W. Bush came along with his Neo-Conservatism ala PNAC and made Reagan's Supply Side policy look like amateur hour.

Friendship request accepted, unfortunately I'm merely a center-left liberal, I can imitate a commie from time to time, though, if you like.

 

[Mariahxxx]

and let's not forget how many people didn't vote for him BECAUSE he's black despite the fact he would have helped them far more than Romney would have.

 

[georges]

That's not why I voted for Obama, but yes we're all going to have to deal with healthcare reform, well not you because you're a Frenchie and don't get to vote in American elections.

Listen Yankee, I am not a Frenchie first , I am French but I have Russian, Finnish, German, Estonian and Swedish roots.Second, my ****** name isn't Dupont. Perhaps I don't get a vote in American elections but I don't vote for someone who is liar, a bullshitter, a fucking community leader and above all a greedy socialist

 

[georges]

and let's not forget how many people didn't vote for him BECAUSE he's black despite the fact he would have helped them far more than Romney would have.

He would have taxed them more, lied to them and gave more money to his favorite voters. It is already clear for me.

 

[xfire]

Listen Yankee, I am not a Frenchie first , I am French but I have Russian, Finnish, German, Estonian and Swedish roots.Second, my ****** name isn't Dupont. Perhaps I don't get a vote in American elections but I don't vote for someone who is liar, a bullshitter, a fucking community leader and above all a greedy socialist

Watch your mouth, beret boy, I AM from Texas. "Yankee" is a fightin' word.