NPR Analyst Juan Williams gets the boot for...

[Dman25]

The only reason he was let go is because he was a FOX regular and they were looking for any excuse to can him. He was also IIRC the only African American with a show on NPR. I'm waiting for the Sharptons and Jacksons to raise hell with NPR for this.

 

[titsrock]

but what else do you think is going to happen when you work for an uber liberal bullshit company, and you dare to speak about your FEELINGS, not your OPINION.[/FONT]

As a paid political analyst for Fox and NPR, one would hope that Mr. Williams would learn to keep his emotions in check and not let them cloud his judgment.

A learned mind is a rational, unemotional one.

I suspect--aka MY OPINION--that Mr. Williams made some shitty investments, or his 401K has tanked and he's getting impatient for the economy to ~rise~, and, so he got himself fired by NPR in order to get that Fox $$CASH$$ he wants.

He will be the next Dick Morris--some shill who will dance for whomever is paying for the music...

 

[Trident1]

Is it now?
Ever heard of ETA, ELF, the IRA, Earth First!, UPA, BLA, Tamil Tigers, NBF, FLQ, Wawelberg Group, FARC, PCP-SL, The Sons of Freedom, Iron Guard, or the Orange Volunteers (the last three being Chrisitian terrorist groups)?

Who gives a crap. We're not at war with them.

 

[~~whimsy~~]

Is it now?
Ever heard of ETA, ELF, the IRA, Earth First!, UPA, BLA, Tamil Tigers, NBF, FLQ, Wawelberg Group, FARC, PCP-SL, The Sons of Freedom, Iron Guard, or the Orange Volunteers (the last three being Chrisitian terrorist groups)?

Who gives a crap. We're not at war with them.

The difference between those groups and the group we are fighting is the crazy Muslims actually bomb many different countries. While the groups you speak of are contained in one country and the country it is contained in is taking care of it themselves.

Not to mention these groups know better than to hijack a plane and crash it into buildings. As much as they would probably like to they know better. Especially the foreign terrorist groups.

Some are such small groups in the states to where they can easily be taken out by state feds and not even make much of a ripple across the country in terms of OMG, WHAT HAPPENED!?!?!?

Then again seeing how the media is able to turn a dirt pile into Mount Everest... who knows?

Either way, comparing those groups to a group such as Al-Qaeda isn't much of a comparison. Al-Qaeda (or any other kind of loony Islamic terrorist group out there) is going all around the world and blowing up whatever they deem fit to blow up. That's why the focus is on them instead of an obscured group such as the Earth First! group for example.

Sure the IRA looks bad. If you live in Ireland and have to put up with it. That would be like comparing our street gangs to another country's terrorist problem.

 

[Facetious]

I particularly like Juan Williams because he speaks his mind, especially on Fox News Sunday. This man whether you like him not, I don't find him a racist.

I concur 100%

The age of political correctness has possibly ruined his image/reputation.

I disagree, I believe that npr's ratings will plummet and I believe that better opportunities await Mr. Juan Williams.:2 cents:

CAIR is the the group responsible for getting him fired when they demanded disciplinary action against his statement.

They sure came after Savage with a vengeance!

Another talk show host in San Fran, Lee Rodgers was fired from KSFO for speaking his mind about muslims . . . and wouldn't you know it, the general manager for Citadel Radio, the owner of KSFO was a muslim.

 

[titsrock]

Just thought people would be interested to know that NPR receives ZERO DIRECT Federal Funding :wave2: They "may" receive up to 5.8% of government revenue, but they lump Federal, State and Municipal into one slice of the pie graph.

So, sorry Loonitarians, NPR is not a federally-funded arm of the Gov't meant to indoctrinate the wealthy and the educated against the Wal-Mart/Gun/God crowd...

Don't take my word for it. Click on the link for yourself :wave2:
http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html

 

[Trident1]

Just thought people would be interested to know that NPR receives ZERO DIRECT Federal Funding :wave2: They "may" receive up to 5.8% of government revenue, but they lump Federal, State and Municipal into one slice of the pie graph.

So, sorry Loonitarians, NPR is not a federally-funded arm of the Gov't meant to indoctrinate the wealthy and the educated against the Wal-Mart/Gun/God crowd...

Don't take my word for it. Click on the link for yourself :wave2:
http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html

Soros to the rescue.

 

[Jagger69]

The difference between those groups and the group we are fighting is the crazy Muslims actually bomb many different countries. While the groups you speak of are contained in one country and the country it is contained in is taking care of it themselves.

Not to mention these groups know better than to hijack a plane and crash it into buildings. As much as they would probably like to they know better. Especially the foreign terrorist groups.

Some are such small groups in the states to where they can easily be taken out by state feds and not even make much of a ripple across the country in terms of OMG, WHAT HAPPENED!?!?!?

Then again seeing how the media is able to turn a dirt pile into Mount Everest... who knows?

Either way, comparing those groups to a group such as Al-Qaeda isn't much of a comparison. Al-Qaeda (or any other kind of loony Islamic terrorist group out there) is going all around the world and blowing up whatever they deem fit to blow up. That's why the focus is on them instead of an obscured group such as the Earth First! group for example.

Sure the IRA looks bad. If you live in Ireland and have to put up with it. That would be like comparing our street gangs to another country's terrorist problem.

I agree about the IRA, etc but the problem that you are not taking into account is the viewpoint from their perspective (and I am not at all a radical Muslim apologist by any means) and to come to the realization that the actions of the US and other coalition forces are perceived as being every bit as terroristic as what happened to us. Imagine for a minute that some middle-eastern nation was deeply entrenched in our country with boots on the ground and was performing regular ground incursions against our cities and towns and doing daily air sorties and blowing up all kinds of shit all over the place under the pretext of some motive that we couldn't really give a shit about. How could you not see that as the same kind of terrorism (maybe worse in fact....at least 9-11 was over in less than a few hours) that was perpetrated on us back in 2001? I think if we all lived in that environment for any extended period of time (the war is almost 10 years old now) and had to fear for the safety and well-being of not only our nation but our family and friends on a daily basis, it would be pretty easy to manifest a very hardened attitude toward the occupiers no matter the supposed justification for their presence.

We made a monumental mistake by deciding to stage a traditional ground war as a reaction to 9-11. Of course, one has to take into account what the real purpose of the war was (is), especially in Iraq (to secure strategic oil reserves from my perspective) before such judgments are made but it is hard to fathom that our leaders decided that a military invasion of Iraq was the proper response to subdue Al-Qaeda. If that had truly been the mission, we could have handled it in a much more clandestine and covert fashion and, in all likelihood, would have captured or killed most of the key members of the organization including bin Laden himself if we had made that goal our primary focus. We didn't do that and still haven't to this day and thus we remain mired in a conflict that literally seems to have no end and the purpose of which is severely clouded to say the least. Concurrently, bin Laden remains safe and in hiding and Al-Qaeda still remains a driving force behind Islamic terrorism. Just exactly what is the mission we are attempting to accomplish now? Why in the bloody hell are we still fighting in Afghanistan? In that regard, Obama is every bit as complicit in the perpetuation of this idiotic conflict as Bush was.

Anyway....way :2offtopic so sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread but Whims' comments stirred up these thoughts in me. Back to Juan Williams....

 

[Bearded_Menace]

I agree about the IRA, etc but the problem that you are not taking into account is the viewpoint from their perspective (and I am not at all a radical Muslim apologist by any means) and to come to the realization that the actions of the US and other coalition forces are perceived as being every bit as terroristic as what happened to us. Imagine for a minute that some middle-eastern nation was deeply entrenched in our country with boots on the ground and was performing regular ground incursions against our cities and towns and doing daily air sorties and blowing up all kinds of shit all over the place under the pretext of some motive that we couldn't really give a shit about. How could you not see that as the same kind of terrorism (maybe worse in fact....at least 9-11 was over in less than a few hours) that was perpetrated on us back in 2001? I think if we all lived in that environment for any extended period of time (the war is almost 10 years old now) and had to fear for the safety and well-being of not only our nation but our family and friends on a daily basis, it would be pretty easy to manifest a very hardened attitude toward the occupiers no matter the supposed justification for their presence.

We made a monumental mistake by deciding to stage a traditional ground war as a reaction to 9-11. Of course, one has to take into account what the real purpose of the war was (is), especially in Iraq (to secure strategic oil reserves from my perspective) before such judgments are made but it is hard to fathom that our leaders decided that a military invasion of Iraq was the proper response to subdue Al-Qaeda. If that had truly been the mission, we could have handled it in a much more clandestine and covert fashion and, in all likelihood, would have captured or killed most of the key members of the organization including bin Laden himself if we had made that goal our primary focus. We didn't do that and still haven't to this day and thus we remain mired in a conflict that literally seems to have no end and the purpose of which is severely clouded to say the least. Concurrently, bin Laden remains safe and in hiding and Al-Qaeda still remains a driving force behind Islamic terrorism. Just exactly what is the mission we are attempting to accomplish now? Why in the bloody hell are we still fighting in Afghanistan? In that regard, Obama is every bit as complicit in the perpetuation of this idiotic conflict as Bush was.

Anyway....way :2offtopic so sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread but Whims' comments stirred up these thoughts in me. Back to Juan Williams....

No apology needed. In a way, this does have something to do with Juan Williams.

 

[abejarano12]

The way I see is he put his foot in his mouth and got canned for it. This just goes to show is that at time we must keep our personal opinions to ourselves. However Juan Williams should NOT have been fired. If that starts happening then maybe ESPN should can Tom Jackson for his dumb ass comments

 

[~~whimsy~~]

Megyn Kelly takes on CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper. I bet she was a great litigator when she practiced.

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/video-cair-spokesman-has-hard-time-defending-juan-williams-firing/

Great video.

Here is the full six minute video of Juan Williams on O'Reilly:


Last I knew this country had freedom of speech. Unless it seems you are staunch liberal and not agreeing along side with liberal view points. If that is the case you are fired, screwed, and outcast from all social circles. Just take a look at Joseph Lieberman for example.

Of course I am sure the staunch liberals of the board will find a reason of his leaving the left-wing. Thing is liberals are the most intolerant and hateful individuals out there. If you do not agree with them they will throw you under a bus so fast you won't know what hit you. Just go check out what Sarah Spitz had to say about Rush Limbaugh. You don't hear conservatives saying stuff like that in public so nonchalantly and casually.

Sad but true.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Megyn Kelly takes on CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper. I bet she was a great litigator when she practiced.

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/video-cair-spokesman-has-hard-time-defending-juan-williams-firing/

Great video.

Here is the full six minute video of Juan Williams on O'Reilly:


Last I knew this country had freedom of speech. Unless it seems you are staunch liberal and not agreeing along side with liberal view points. If that is the case you are fired, screwed, and outcast from all social circles. Just take a look at Joseph Lieberman for example.

Of course I am sure the staunch liberals of the board will find a reason of his leaving the left-wing. Thing is liberals are the most intolerant and hateful individuals out there. If you do not agree with them they will throw you under a bus so fast you won't know what hit you. Just go check out what Sarah Spitz had to say about Rush Limbaugh. You don't hear conservatives saying stuff like that in public so nonchalantly and casually.

Sad but true.

The right to free speech contained in the constitution is about the govt and it not being allowed to curtail speech.If you think his right to free speech is being violated because NPR fired him you fundamentally don't understand the right.Juan was not arrested for what he said was he? You don't have the right to say whatever you want and then not possibly face consequences from your employer.Try wearing a t-shirt your boss don't like or announce you are a racist or Al Queda sympatheizer to your employer,if you do they have every legal right to terminate you.

And as to Juan every really being accepted by the left as a spokesman, let me tell you I sure never did.Shit he was on Fox,no real leftys hardly ever get on Fox.Fox has a lot of hard right types and maybe some moderates which Juan And on the very rare occasions I have seen someone I consider a true lefty on Fox they have been not given a fair opportunity to speak and are attacked without mercy by the like of Hannity or O'Reiily.Thats why their claims of fair and balanced are such a joke

In fact the left is not represented IMO on any major network or national media outlet.Only in the minds of the extreme right wing can the media be called liberal leaning.They are all corporate shills and just because the other outlets are not hard right like Fox is does not make them liberal.

You folks that think Juan or even Obama is some kind of voice of the left truly do not get it.They are moderates at most.

 

[roronoa3000]

Juan Williams just said the exact same thing everyone else was thinking.

True but we don't always say what we think or else I would have a new sexual harrasment lawsuit everyday and few bruises on my face.

Thing is liberals are the most intolerant and hateful individuals out there.

lol.

 

[~~whimsy~~]

Yet Sarah Spitz can talk about laughing hysterically if she found Rush Limbaugh dying and described how it would be hilarious to watch his eyes pop out. This guy said what he said, most liberals do not agree with that bold statement, and he is fired.

Oh well. Fox News hired him and is glad to have him on board. How tolerant of the curmudgeon, loony right Fox News people.

 

[CptHa]

Who gives a crap. We're not at war with them.

Are they terrorist groups or not? Yes or no?

 

[Trident1]

Are they terrorist groups or not? Yes or no?

What does that have to do with all the terrorists being muslim? Has ETA crashed planes full of people into buildings? Did FARC attack the Cole? Are we fighting the Tamil Tigers(who no longer exist) in Afghanistan? Did the IRA blow up the Marine barracks in '83? Did the Provos murder Sadat in '81?
Are the Israelis fighting the ELN in South Lebanon? No.


Islamists are at war with us and the non muslim world.

 

[titsrock]

^
Maybe go reread Dubya's declaration of a "War against Terrorism" again..:dunno: Technically, according to Dubya, we are at war with the IRA.

Whimsy...whimsy...whimsy...Liberals are the most intolerant.... Liberals don't have patience for dumbassery. Conservatives are completely aloof to or they agree with dumbassery...