No because he still had guys name Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark...even Collie was a great player at BYU and Gonzalez was a top WR at OSU...
That's aside from having a veteran defense and defensive backfield.:2 cents:
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No because he still had guys name Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark...even Collie was a great player at BYU and Gonzalez was a top WR at OSU...
That's aside from having a veteran defense and defensive backfield.:2 cents:
So Jared Mayo and Brandon Spikes and Devin McCourtny weren't good in college? Brady still has guys names Branch and Welker. And the best offensive line in the league. It goes both ways. Gonzalez didn't play last year BTW.
Bellichek is the best coach in the league though, IMO. He doesn't let his team falter on big games like tonight. And you can be sure he's going to make a statement when he needs to.
Welker?? The guy is 5' nada....Branch just returned to the team...STD...this is so not close...
STD...this is so not close...
Ohh. He's only 5'? He must be shit then. Only a couple 100 reception seasons under his belt. And Branch was just a Super Bowl MVP. You're right. It isn't close at all.
Welker is a 5' something WR...and it's been well document Moss' effect on Welker's underneath effectiveness...but make no mistake. Welker is doing what he's doing because he's playing for the Pats with Tom Brady...point me to another WR of his stature dominating in the league...
What SB was Branch 'just' an MVP of??? The last one I remember him playing in he was 5 years younger than he is now...
S-T-D= STop Digging.:o
He also had a 100 reception season under Matt Cassel. Remember that guy that hadn't started a football game since high school and still carried the Pats to a 11-5 record? Another reason why Manning > Brady. Not to mention the superior stats, MVP's and career records. I don't have to dig very deep for this stuff.
It's common knowledge. And I'm not the only one who thinks so.He also had a 100 reception season under Matt Cassel. Remember that guy that hadn't started a football game since high school and still carried the Pats to a 11-5 record? Another reason why Manning > Brady. Not to mention the superior stats, MVP's and career records. I don't have to dig very deep for this stuff.
And that same guy who was a 5 star QB coming out of HS is leading the previously woeful Chiefs to a division leading record now.
Everyone knows (or should know) the nature of the Pats offense..especially the overlay underlay with Moss...Welker is the possession receiver and will get allot of underneath passes...when Welker went out injured..his replacement caught those underneath passes...:dunno:
Manning can pile up stats...that's all he's ever done since he was at UT...his problem has ALWAYS been except for 1 or 2 years was choking when it counted.
Hey Peyton...try throwing it to the guys in Colt's jerseys for a change. This ain't your daddy's Saints.:anonymous
Before he finally manned up...it was pretty hilarious watching Manning tap dancing in the pocket like a skittish kitten trying to avoid a puddle of water. I thought he was finally over that hump...maybe not..
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Man I really hate Brady.
You need to get a haircut you fucking hippie and your wife is highly overrated in the looks department!
You need to get a haircut you fucking hippie and your wife is highly overrated in the looks department!
Why is football the only sport that credits team success to one player? Or at the very least gives way too much credit to one player. Surely Derek Fisher isn't a better PG than John Stockton. But he has more titles. Stat's aren't comparable though.
As a matter of fact. It's just QB's that team achievements are used to compare individual careers. Nobody would say Emmitt Smith is better than Barry Sanders. So why QB's?
As a matter of fact. It's just QB's that team achievements are used to compare individual careers. Nobody would say Emmitt Smith is better than Barry Sanders. So why QB's?
You ever tried to play the position?
What does it matter? Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring. They didn't win because of his QBing. Even if you wanted to use intangibles as an excuse, he wasn't the leader of that team, nor did his ice veins make a difference. Super Bowls shouldn't be used to measure an individuals career. Only stats and individual achievements can measure that. And Manning's trump all.
You asked why do QBs get the most credit in team sports. I simply asked if you ever tried to play the position? Implicit in the question was the suggestion that the role in the overwhelming majority of cases makes the biggest difference with the success or failure of most football teams.
Are there exceptions? Of course...and that's the reason why you don't usually see average or below average QBs achieve consistent success.
Given the right circumstances and team...almost any QB who's made it to the pro level can win just one.
Brady was a fluke winning 1 in his first year starting. Then he won 2 more in the next 3 years and been to/could have more.
One thing you'll never see of Brady is the pitter-pattering nervous wreck in the pocket that Manning was throughout his career.
I'd love to see what Manning would have amounted to if he ever, just once had to manage without teams built around him with nearly every phase of the game capable of wining games for the Colts.
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Jets got there doors blown off!!
PATS 45 JETS 3
PATS 45 JETS 3
thanks for letting me down chargers and jets but atleast the bears and packers got the job done
if only i could take the bears defense and the packers offense and make a super nfc team
if only i could take the bears defense and the packers offense and make a super nfc team
Mark Sanchez will never be a franchise QB. Sure he'll have games where he'll throw for 3 TDs and pass for 300+ yards but for the most part he'll just be an average QB.
Pats at Bears is going to be a good game I'm so excited. I'm pulling for my Bears and its not impossible that they could pull off a win against the Pats. This game is sort of a trap game for the Pats as they have a short week to prepare for the Bears and they have to come to Soldier Field. This could be a letdown for them.
jets? uhmmm, brady just ripped a new one in ya...soo much for the smack talk...falcons roll again, matty ice is a mini peyton manning...that pitt and bali game...hard hitting as usual...more head shots and fines handed out
Welker is a great player, he just doesn't get much love because he isn't a "sexy" WR. Remember, he was a Dolphin and the Pats traded more away to get him than they did to get Moss. Belichek knew he could play. To paraphrase, coach B said he couldn't figure out a way to stop him, so he decided to do what it took to get him.
Welker has helped win more Fantasy Football leagues than TO, 85 and any other receiver you want ot bring up. the guy is flat-out great. Look at the stats.
Welker has helped win more Fantasy Football leagues than TO, 85 and any other receiver you want ot bring up. the guy is flat-out great. Look at the stats.
