New poll at Freeones.com/new: paysite or not?

Nightfly said:
I find it disappointing that so many people here are so incredibly opinionated about their favorite pornstar or posing babe/model, vote for them in every poll, make sigs and avatars of them, yet they don't or won't pay for more/exclusive content and support the woman for her work. Not that the teaser galleries put out there are not great stuff, and given enough of them, you might "amuse yourself" with them just fine, but I don't understand people who are like "I'm Jenna's (or whoever's) #1 fan!" yet they have never bought any of her movies or joined her website.
1 word: Amen!
 
The costs are rediculously high, plain and simple.
 
I respectfully disagree, Katie's Mine. Many people are quite happy to go out and buy a Lord of the Rings DVD for $20-$30, but why not a porn vid for the same? Makes me wonder. It seems to me that people don't actually admire their favorite babe as much as they say they do... :2 cents:

Katie's Mine said:
The costs are rediculously high, plain and simple.
 

RKO!!!05

Banned
I went along with I don't have the money which is the truth, but I was tempted to choose why pay when you can get it for free.
 
Nightfly said:
I respectfully disagree, Katie's Mine. Many people are quite happy to go out and buy a Lord of the Rings DVD for $20-$30, but why not a porn vid for the same?

You Misuderstand me.
It is fine to buy an adult DVD for that-I've done it before and know people who have. BUT, signing up for sites, is what I'm talking about. Each one is basically $20-$30/month. Now, if you have 10 favorite PSs or group sites, then that means you'd have to shill out $200-$300/month, absolutely REDICULOUS!!!

Now, if it were $5/month or $10/month at most, it would be different and much more affordable (and I'm SURE that they'd actually receive more profit-not less because of it).
 
Well, if you're that big of a fan of that many pornstars, there are also paysites featuring shared-content of them. I could list a bunch of them, but I don't want to give shameless plugs and be called a spammer. lol

But yes, if you are so heavily involved in multiple models/actresses that you would consider joining their sites, then you'd better have a lot of cash - photoshoots are NOT cheap to do. The model or models have their fees, there's travel, sets, photographers, lodging and hotel expenses, all sorts of things involved. It's not cheap for them, and so the fees for their sites are charged accordingly. I don't begrudge them a dime, unless the site content is crap. That's why you try a 3-day preview first!!! :)


Katie's Mine said:
You Misuderstand me.
It is fine to buy an adult DVD for that-I've done it before and know people who have. BUT, signing up for sites, is what I'm talking about. Each one is basically $20-$30/month. Now, if you have 10 favorite PSs or group sites, then that means you'd have to shill out $200-$300/month, absolutely REDICULOUS!!!

Now, if it were $5/month or $10/month at most, it would be different and much more affordable (and I'm SURE that they'd actually receive more profit-not less because of it).
 
I know the economic ramifications of such site features, but also know how much profit the industry makes. I don't blame them for pricing me and others out of their profitbook-it's business. I still maintain that if prices were lowered, more people who can't afford them now, would then be able to, ergo INCREASING profit, not reducing it.
 

Dinalt

Banned
Nightfly said:
I find it disappointing that so many people here are so incredibly opinionated about their favorite pornstar or posing babe/model, vote for them in every poll, make sigs and avatars of them, yet they don't or won't pay for more/exclusive content and support the woman for her work. Not that the teaser galleries put out there are not great stuff, and given enough of them, you might "amuse yourself" with them just fine, but I don't understand people who are like "I'm Jenna's (or whoever's) #1 fan!" yet they have never bought any of her movies or joined her website.

:hatsoff: I agree totally Nightfly, point well made. I've said most of what I want to in this thread.

But it does amaze me that so many people want something for nothing.

I'll agree with others that the pricing does need to be looked at. I've already said that sites should be looking at alternative charging methods, i.e.:

Charging per movie

or

Charging per gallery

You wouldn't need to spend $30 joining a site then, as you'd only get content you want.
I think this would cut piracy, as it would then be far more affordable for most people.

Also understand the trust issue with credit card details, but in reality, model & mixed content sites take security very seriously. Most details are processed through one of the large credit transaction sites, and all data is encrypted.
The site itself won't hold your card details, as it's done through a 3rd party provider.
Also, any site that didn't take security seriously would soon get a bad name - just 1 thread on Freeones could be seen by a lot of potential customers. So bad security would damage their business.

And it's fine to say some models / actresses make a lot of money. That may be right, but there will also be many that don't.
So by joining your favourite models site, you're helping to keep her in business - as well as benefitting from full galleries & movies.

At the end of the day, bandwidth, hosting & gallery shoots cost money. I've even contributed to other sites by paypal before, as I think it's only fair to reward someones effort.

So there may be lots of free stuff available, but the best content is always going to be on the pay sites.

:2 cents: again..............
 
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Do you think that if BMW made the exact same car, without degrading ANY quality, but simply lowered their prices, they would make a lot more money because more people would have the ability to buy BMWs? Nope. It doesn't work that way. You find the max profit margin with max volume and you go with the trends of the market. Happy medium - you don't want to over or UNDER price yourself out of business...

Katie's Mine said:
I know the economic ramifications of such site features, but also know how much profit the industry makes. I don't blame them for pricing me and others out of their profitbook-it's business. I still maintain that if prices were lowered, more people who can't afford them now, would then be able to, ergo INCREASING profit, not reducing it.
 
Cars and porn are completely different, monetarily speaking. That logic doesn't work, too big of a gap.

If all retailers sold bare bones DVDs for $50 each, I would bet my left arm that the sales of DVDs would drop dramatically. But, since most are $10-$20, they sell like hotcakes.
 
Not at all. I don't know what sort of economics you've studied, but supply/demand/profit margins, risk/loss, marketing, they're all the same. Sure, the product variation is there, but the basic business concepts remain the same. :2 cents:

Katie's Mine said:
Cars and porn are completely different, monetarily speaking. That logic doesn't work, too big of a gap.

If all retailers sold bare bones DVDs for $50 each, I would bet my left arm that the sales of DVDs would drop dramatically. But, since most are $10-$20, they sell like hotcakes.
 

4G63

Closed Account
I don't pay because it's the internet. The net has screwed me so many times, viruses, spam, my credit card # has been stolen, my cell phone number # too. I have tried to pay bills and bank online and boned on that too. I love porn, but I don't trust the advertising (I don't belive the sites have everything they claim) and I don't want my fiscal info in Aria Giovanni's hands. And on top of that my GF never liked the porn on the comp. and now that we are married w/ a babe on the way, all I can really do is share what I got. I think I'd be sleeping out on the lawn if I joined a pay site now. Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't trust the net or the people in charge of it. Yep. :2 cents:
 
My reasons is that I simply dont trust a lot of the porn pay sites. I wouldnt feel comfortable giving my credit card details to someone for porn...

That and why pay when you can get it for free? out of curisoty what does payones offer that freeones dosent?
 
another guy, have you taken the time to read the whole thread? The reasons for paying have been outlined several times! lol :) :hatsoff:
 
Nightfly said:
another guy, have you taken the time to read the whole thread? The reasons for paying have been outlined several times! lol :) :hatsoff:

erm...no, but it was an honest mistake. :) I didnt realise this thread had 3 pages. I read the first and hit reply, replied and left it at that.

Just come back on and I realised, well my initial reaction was "Blimey thats a lot of replies in a short time"

I'l try and read stuff properly next time :ban: :D
 
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