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NBA 10'/11' Thread.
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The thing that I took away from this years Finals is that in the end basketball is a team sport executed by committed players with a shared goal and not a skills competition where selfish interests prevail. Miami might have had the better stars but Dallas had the better team. Miami will eventually get theirs but they have to fill out their roster with players that can compliment Wade and Lebron.
Please explain what you mean by that? Miami didn't lose because of "selfish interests".:dunno:
I'ma have to agree with rwill. They didn't lose cuz they were selfish. The lost cuz they choked in the clutch.
I never said that was the reason why they lost. That's just my opinion on what the game of basketball is all about.
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People can say a lot of things about the Heat, but selfish isn't one of them. Actually, you could say they're unselfish to a fault.
What a stupid, goofy, overreaction to LBJ's comments.
He basically said, he's over it and in a week or month people will be over it (their elation at the demise of him and the Heat) too. Then they will be back to the normal shit they have to deal with in life...just like he already is.
What the fuck is the big deal??
He basically said, he's over it and in a week or month people will be over it (their elation at the demise of him and the Heat) too. Then they will be back to the normal shit they have to deal with in life...just like he already is.
What the fuck is the big deal??
The big deal is the entire package, not just the assorted pieces. News flash: nobody is gonna be over anything if you keep talking shit. The guarantees, the lies, the cop-outs, the excuses, all that shit adds up. Add that to the fact LBJ fails to carry himself like the grown-ass man that he is, only adds to the scrutiny.
He is 26, and it's high time we stop treating him like he's brand-fucking-new. Eight years in means you're a vet. It means your ass should know better by now. When you don't take responsibility or show accountablility for anything, don't play victim when people call you out on it.
I couldn't disagree more IWJ...I'm no LBJ fan but I am a huge fan of the way he's conducted himself since he's been in the NBA.
You could line up thousands of pro athletes (tens of thousands even) and wouldn't find two in a row with the maturity Lebron has demonstrated since going into the NBA.
Now of course he shoulders more responsibility to the game being one of it's 2 or 3 top stars but that's even more testament to the way he's handled himself.
Comparatively, Kobe (for example) became a superstar in time but he didn't have to shoulder it out of the gate. He's done well but he's definitely had maturity issues along the way.
The worse thing Lebron has done ...(which I tend to look down on him for too even though it was his right) is leave Cleveland high and dry.
Personally, I'm glad that he did handle the situation the way he did and make the remarks he made even if misconstrued. It shows amid all the criticisms he still has his priorities straight.
The guy's talent is undeniable, he has proven he can lead, he's proven he can delegate and he's proven he can come up big when it counts. He just doesn't have a ring yet. At 26, it would probably be a mistake betting against him retiring ringless.
People don't dislike him because he left Cleveland, they dislike him because of the way he left Cleveland.
Speak for yourself, I dislike the fact that he left Cleveland. So too did MJ, Barkley, Magic and many many many many fans of Cleveland.
Obviously it was his choice but most felt (like I do) that in order for him to have truly realized his greatness, he should have finished the job in Cleveland like MJ did in Chicago.
It's obvious that when poeple have this irrational hate for a man they don't know all reason goes out the window.
I agree with Lebron that it seems that people should have more pressing everyday issues they need to deal with(just like he does) than worrying about whether a couple of guys worth hundreds of millions of dollars win a Basketball game or not( The Governor of Ohio is even chiming in
).This is the type of vitriol I would expect for someone who committed some heinous crime:1orglaugh(Say Rae Carruth ,OJ ,etc....)
Lebron James hasn't gotten as much as a speeding ticket in his entire life that I am aware of ,but he is hated because he didn't leave a pro sports team the 'correct' way?
Shaq basically did the same thing to Orlando when he bolted for L.A. ,sans the one hour special.
As a Lakers fan the only good thing that has come of this is at least people will appreciate Kobe more and what he's done.
That's just it, we're not talking about other athletes. We're talking about LBJ. He, you, and everyone else knows he is held to a higher standard, and nobody wants that more than him. See, he wants to be treated like the shit, and not work or be held accountable for all of the other shit that comes with.
So your saying:
He handled the SDC promise and bail out well?
He handled his promise to 'win one for Cleveland' well?
He handled 'The Decision' well?
He handled 'The Miami Mardi Gras' intro well?
He handled the multiple ring promise well?
He handled the 'Cleveland karma' tweet well?
He handled the Dirk mocking well?
He handled the after Finals post-game well?
He handled the 'God knows it ain't my time yet' Twitter bullshit well?
Seems to me that he's quick to open his mouth, and not back up his own shit. He had control over all of that, and came through on nothing so far. I completely understand if you can't get it done all the time, but why set yourself up for the questions and comments with shit you do and say? Again, bullshit piles up, and it becomes easier to smell the more you stack it. If you don't wanna walk it, don't talk it.
It's obvious that when poeple have this irrational hate for a man they don't know all reason goes out the window.
I agree with Lebron that it seems that people should have more pressing everyday issues they need to deal with(just like he does) than worrying about whether a couple of guys worth hundreds of millions of dollars win a Basketball game or not( The Governor of Ohio is even chiming in
This is the type of vitriol I would expect for someone who committed some heinous crime:1orglaugh(Say Rae Carruth ,OJ ,etc....)
Lebron James hasn't gotten as much as a speeding ticket in his entire life that I am aware of ,but he is hated because he didn't leave a pro sports team the 'correct' way?
As a Lakers fan the only good thing that has come of this is at least people will appreciate Kobe more and what he's done.
Don't get me wrong girk...I completely understand the 'hatred' and the in your faceism being directed at Lebron and the Heat.
Him leaving Cleveland, the preseason 'pep rally' and the season long Heat championship watch was tailor made for a backlash and 'hatred' if this team did anything short of nearly sweeping everyone in the playoffs.
I get that reality and to a degree I'm a part of that :nanner:ism.
But what is completely unfair is the criticism of Lebron not doing this or doing that...when the guy has made plays in crunch games and crunch time since he's been in the NBA. Then the criticizing (nitpicking) of what he said...he spoke the truth and it was a mature response as far as I'm concerned.
When I heard the huh-bub over it...you would have thought he said he was going to eat someone's children or something. At least that is what I was expecting to hear after all the phony sensationalism over what he said.
As LAker fan I definitely took a few good natured shots at him LAST YEAR as well. 'Last year' and I like an adult I moved on which others can't seem to do for some strange reason. I find it fascinatingly bizzarre the media and fans obssessive hate for the guy.
As an adult I can't understand 'hating' someone for trivial bullshit when the guy hasn't as much gotten a speeding ticket in his life(Just imagine if he ever gets in legal trouble).
I understood the Kobe hate(accused of rape),but the Lebron hate far exceeds any 'perceived' bad deed he has done.
Ben Rothieslesberger has been accused of rape twice(2 times) ,but doesn't get this type of hate.
His talent is indisputable(not even debatable) and as an NBA fan I prefer appreciating that talent than nitpicking over PETTY bullshit because he hurt the people of Cleveland's wittle feelings.:crying:
Winning will shut most of that nonsense up and I like Oscar Robertson hopes this hate fuels him to win.
Agreed. It's fair for Cleveland to have some resentment for Lebron...(especially if he'd won a championship with Miami this season). I suppose it will be a little easier for them to get on with it now.
But I wholeheartedly agree with the nitpicking against Lebron. I honestly admire the maturity he's demonstrated since he's been in the league.
I had no idea what the guy was about until I actually heard him interviewed a couple of times and I was essentially blown away at how mature he was and how well thought out and sensible some of his perspectives were.
Not once did he drop some worn out platitude...
If half the guys in the NBA (or sports in general) had the head on their shoulders Lebron seems to have it would be a far better league for it IMO...
