Lawmakers Consider Ending Citizenship for Children of Illegal Aliens

[meesterperfect]

i don't see how anyone can argue about this.
millions of mexicans have entered the states illegally either pregnant or got pregnant afterwards.
it only makes sense that if the parents are illegal then the child should be too.
but no, not in dumbass united states.
this is how it functions:
there they actually pay for the medical care of the women and the child which costs how much for each child? 10k? 20K?.
then if the illegal immigrant mother wants, people will come, with a translater and set her up on welfare.
free money, free food,free medical, free free free.
what a deal! if i were a poor mexican i know where i'd be heading.

of course nobody cares that all the billions and some day trillions these people cost does come from all the poor slobs that get up and go to work each day and have half their money stolen from them each paycheck by a government out of control.
almost sounds like a form of slavery.
and of course the people who support this system have no problem with it. why? because theyre fucking stupid.

 

[meesterperfect]

Yeah, thumbs up to turning your back on humanity.

what have you done to help humanity?

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

i don't see how anyone can argue about this.
millions of mexicans have entered the states illegally either pregnant or got pregnant afterwards.
it only makes sense that if the parents are illegal then the child should be too.
but no, not in dumbass united states.
this is how it functions:
there they actually pay for the medical care of the women and the child which costs how much for each child? 10k? 20K?.
then if the illegal immigrant mother wants, people will come, with a translater and set her up on welfare.
free money, free food,free medical, free free free.
what a deal! if i were a poor mexican i know where i'd be heading.

of course nobody cares that all the billions and some day trillions these people cost does come from all the poor slobs that get up and go to work each day and have half their money stolen from them each paycheck by a government out of control.
almost sounds like a form of slavery.
and of course the people who support this system have no problem with it. why? because theyre fucking stupid.

Of course middle America takes it in the ass. There's a reason blue collar folks don't feel they can have more than one or two kids now while the welfare trash is busy gettin' busy. Our way of life and culture is being drowned out.

 

[titsrock]

As a Liberal, I think the 14th Amendment has long outlived its original purpose. We are up to our asses in trying to manage the needs of 350mill people.

A compromise that could be looked at is a temporary moratorium on all immigration/naturalization for 25 years. :yesyes:

No more H1 Visas for tech workers
No more athletic scholarships for foreign athletes

But, I don't want to see Gestapo-like transports rolling around the streets of America. So, we must offer amnesty for all undocumented who are here right now.

 

[Hot Mega]

Of course middle America takes it in the ass. There's a reason blue collar folks don't feel they can have more than one or two kids now while the welfare trash is busy gettin' busy. Our way of life and culture is being drowned out.

What is the impact of illegals on "middle America"?? I would venture a guess that outside of border states, the average middle American has no thought of the impact of illegal immigration on their lives because it likely has none.

That isn't an excuse for not solving the problem just from a security standpoint alone it needs to be dealt with.

But it is not in any way a national issue beyond security...which would be more the point of why it would or wouldn't be taken up as an amendment to the constitution.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

What is the impact of illegals on "middle America"?? I would venture a guess that outside of border states, the average middle American has no thought of the impact of illegal immigration on their lives because it likely has none. .

Just one example:

I had a friend (actually a kid I grew up with) who was an American citizen (I believe third generation, like me) and he had a small roofing crew of likewise American citizens.

Well the business went under because a lot of the competition was hiring droves of illegals. Sorta like the dozen or so who did a job on my neighbors house two years ago and stared at my girlfriend every fucking day like predators; and yeah, I had to follow her to her car whenever those fucking sub-fucks were on that roof.

They also did the job in like one day because there were packs of them on there, and BTW, there was a Hummer driving by it several times with a white man, who I can only believe was the owner of that business.

You think I'm making this shit up? This has been a common theme on pleanty of the houses that get re-roofed over here. So yeah, HM, it has a HUGE toll on us middle-class Americans. Just ask my friend who no longer has his business.

This isn't an isolated incident either, and if you think it is you live in a gated community somewhere. You can Google about Swift Meat for more info. So yeah, no wonder Americans are boiling so hot the country is about to implode.

 

[pete rose]

what have you done to help humanity?

I invented the ice cube tray, what about you? Seriously though, I thought the thumbs up icon accompanied by this thread is a bit cold. You don't have to change the fucking world to understand the callousness behind something as subtle as that.

Yeah yeah yeah, it's illegal, we get it. They're all stealing from your cookie jar and yours alone.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I invented the ice cube tray, what about you? Seriously though, I thought the thumbs up icon accompanied by this thread is a bit cold. You don't have to change the fucking world to understand the callousness behind something as subtle as that.

Yeah yeah yeah, it's illegal, we get it. They're all stealing from your cookie jar and yours alone.

You're European, aren't you?

 

[pete rose]

You're European, aren't you?

Hahaha. Really? Lay off the "all Europeans are empathetic" stereotype, man!

of course nobody cares that all the billions and some day trillions these people cost does come from all the poor slobs that get up and go to work each day and have half their money stolen from them each paycheck by a government out of control.
almost sounds like a form of slavery.

This may be the funniest thing I've ever seen.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Hahaha. Really? Lay off the "all Europeans are empathetic" stereotype, man!

.

Empathy is not the point. The point is (unless you've been on this side of the pond) you have no idea what's happening to some areas because of this enrichment.

 

[pete rose]

"Some areas?" Care to elaborate? I'm also curious about what parts of the post you quoted were European.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

"Some areas?" Care to elaborate? I'm also curious about what parts of the post you quoted were European.

Pretty much the whole country where they congregate in large nubers. Maricopa County is a hellhole; East Los Angeles is one of the worst urban centers in terms of violence probably in the world, and that's pretty much all Hispanics. In my city the mini-Mexico has shootings and trash everywhere, not to mention the Taco trucks that are showing up every other block on my side of town, as if those bloody awful things aren't just an eye sore and a shit stain on a once proud, beautiful European-American areas of town just back in the 70s.

 

[Hot Mega]

Just one example:

I had a friend (actually a kid I grew up with) who was an American citizen (I believe third generation, like me) and he had a small roofing crew of likewise American citizens.

Well the business went under because a lot of the competition was hiring droves of illegals. Sorta like the dozen or so who did a job on my neighbors house two years ago and stared at my girlfriend every fucking day like predators; and yeah, I had to follow her to her car whenever those fucking sub-fucks were on that roof.

They also did the job in like one day because there were packs of them on there, and BTW, there was a Hummer driving by it several times with a white man, who I can only believe was the owner of that business.

You think I'm making this shit up? This has been a common theme on pleanty of the houses that get re-roofed over here. So yeah, HM, it has a HUGE toll on us middle-class Americans. Just ask my friend who no longer has his business.

This isn't an isolated incident either, and if you think it is you live in a gated community somewhere. You can Google about Swift Meat for more info. So yeah, no wonder Americans are boiling so hot the country is about to implode.

I'm sure you're buddy is 100% certainly these men who presumably were responsible for him not getting enough work to stay in business were illegals by checking their citizenship status right??. I mean he knows they didn't have green cards or anything.

But assuming every single syllable in your post is true. Who is overwhelmingly to blame for this particular circumstance? The illegals who are doing no more than I presume you would do...which is do whatever it took to reasonably provide for yourself and family? OR the "average American" tooling around in a Hummer that presumably hired them and the other "average Americans" who are only too happy to take advantage of a cut rate price at the expense of their fellow Americans??? I know this is a tough one in the era of scapegoating but this shouldn't be too hard, right?

Also, assuming your girl was anything worth looking at versus staring at her for being too ugly or otherwise deformed. I think that is pretty outrageous that construction workers would actually leer at a chick.:surprise:

I mean, certainly this only happened because presumably they were illegal immigrant construction workers. Who ever heard of regular old red blooded Americans doing something this outrageous?

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I'm sure you're buddy is 100% certainly these men who presumably were responsible for him not getting enough work to stay in business were illegals by checking their citizenship status right??. I mean he knows they didn't have green cards or anything.

And I'm sure they'll hightail it outta here after it expires (IF they even had one), right? Right? Of course they will. (don't make me look figures up on the number that actually DO leave when their card expires, but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find facts)

But assuming every single syllable in your post is true. Who is overwhelmingly to blame for this particular circumstance? The illegals who are doing no more than I presume you would do...which is do whatever it took to reasonably provide for yourself and family? OR the "average American" tooling around in a Hummer that presumably hired them and the other "average Americans" who are only too happy to take advantage of a cut rate price at the expense of their fellow Americans??? I know this is a tough one in the era of scapegoating but this shouldn't be too hard, right?

Make excuses about bad business by pointing to other shady shit. Fucking retarded. If our government put a god damn fence up in the first place, we wouldn't be in this problem. But since we're on the subject, they should be THROWN in JAIL (these business creeps that is, especially the national companies like Swift). Then seize their businesses and assets. Problem solved.

Also, assuming your girl was anything worth looking at versus staring at her for being too ugly or otherwise deformed. I think that is pretty outrageous that construction workers would actually leer at a chick.:surprise:

When you're in my neighborhood, working on property 10 yards away, you'd better show some god damn respect to the women around me, including my sisters. I'm not gonna tolerate that nonsense. And don't start on me about looks; I've posted a pic of myself and my girl on here (have fun digging them up). We're not ugly by any means.

I mean, certainly this only happened because presumably they were illegal immigrant construction workers. Who ever heard of regular old red blooded Americans doing something this outrageous?

Too bad their people are making their phenotype a pretty obvious issue. It's not blonde-haired Swedish girls sneaking in here, dufus. Mexicans have a pretty obvious appearance, but that's RACIST for me to point out phenotype, isn't it? :1orglaugh

(no Gestapo patrols over here either titsrock. it ain't even like that).

 

[Hot Mega]

i don't see how anyone can argue about this.
millions of mexicans have entered the states illegally either pregnant or got pregnant afterwards.
it only makes sense that if the parents are illegal then the child should be too.
but no, not in dumbass united states.
this is how it functions:
there they actually pay for the medical care of the women and the child which costs how much for each child? 10k? 20K?.
then if the illegal immigrant mother wants, people will come, with a translater and set her up on welfare.
free money, free food,free medical, free free free.
what a deal! if i were a poor mexican i know where i'd be heading.

of course nobody cares that all the billions and some day trillions these people cost does come from all the poor slobs that get up and go to work each day and have half their money stolen from them each paycheck by a government out of control.
almost sounds like a form of slavery.
and of course the people who support this system have no problem with it. why? because theyre fucking stupid.

There are many countries which do this. Research "jus soli" countries.:2 cents:

You will also find there the logic and reason why they do it.

Somethings that don't make sense are stupid...but something isn't automatically stupid just because it doesn't make sense to you. Make sense?

 

[Hot Mega]

And I'm sure they'll hightail it outta here after it expires (IF they even had one), right? Right? Of course they will. (don't make me look figures up on the number that actually DO leave when their card expires, but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find facts)

What facts are you going to show that demonstrates the men your buddy told you about were in fact here illegally?

Make excuses about bad business by pointing to other shady shit. Fucking retarded. If our government put a god damn fence up in the first place, we wouldn't be in this problem. But since we're on the subject, they should be THROWN in JAIL (these business creeps that is, especially the national companies like Swift). Then seize their businesses and assets. Problem solved.

I didn't make a single excuse. I posed a simple question leading to the conclusion that if middle Americans feel this is a problem they can do far more themselves to curtail it than a 100' high, electrically charged fence would.

Also, coming across our land border isn't the only way to get here and make an "anchor baby". You can go to any US territory including Puerto Rico, drop a baby and that baby is a US citizen.

When you're in my neighborhood, working on property 10 yards away, you'd better show some god damn respect to the women around me, including my sisters. I'm not gonna tolerate that nonsense. And don't start on me about looks; I've posted a pic of myself and my girl on here (have fun digging them up). We're not ugly by any means.

What you did was post a picture and claim it was you and your girl. No one here has any way of proving it. I personally wouldn't claim it isn't you..I frankly don't care nor read those post because those chicks could be any picture taken from the internet. I don't post pics of any of the chicks I've seen nor see precisely because it's too easy for someone to take it and use as they see fit and because actually proving it's someone you've fucked or are fucking is more trouble than it's worth. I'd be pretty pissed if I was trolling the web and seen some pic that I posted someplace else that I know I was the only one who had because I took it. Likewise, I'm sure the chicks I've been with would be pretty pissed and feel violated too.

Who cares what you tolerate. It's pretty obvious for all your bark about showing respect..your bite was apparently missing.:banana: But if you're going to go around trying to stop every construction worker from looking at some chick have fun as not only people you think are here illegally do it.

Too bad their people are making their phenotype a pretty obvious issue. It's not blonde-haired Swedish girls sneaking in here, dufus. Mexicans have a pretty obvious appearance, but that's RACIST for me to point out phenotype, isn't it?

Well "dufus" since this is something foreign to the small beer bubble you've contained yourself in you consider the entire world...many, many, many people are here illegally from Europe, Asia, Central and South America who don't look latino precisely because they have overstayed their welcome.

 

[D-rock]

What is the impact of illegals on "middle America"?? I would venture a guess that outside of border states, the average middle American has no thought of the impact of illegal immigration on their lives because it likely has none.

That isn't really true. I would say most of those people don't think about it a lot more because people tend to fall into a flawed "out of sight, out of mind" mindset than it is because illegal immigration doesn't effect them. It's the same way some people think others out there that are homeless, poor, or without health insurance, for example, among very many other things don't effect them because they never see or interact with those people, when that way of thinking is both false and foolish.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

What facts are you going to show that demonstrates the men your buddy told you about were in fact here illegally?

I didn't make a single excuse. I posed a simple question leading to the conclusion that if middle Americans feel this is a problem they can do far more themselves to curtail it than a 100' high, electrically charged fence would.

Also, coming across our land border isn't the only way to get here and make an "anchor baby". You can go to any US territory including Puerto Rico, drop a baby and that baby is a US citizen.


What you did was post a picture and claim it was you and your girl. No one here has any way of proving it. I personally wouldn't claim it isn't you..I frankly don't care nor read those post because those chicks could be any picture taken from the internet. I don't post pics of any of the chicks I've seen nor see precisely because it's too easy for someone to take it and use as they see fit and because actually proving it's someone you've fucked or are fucking is more trouble than it's worth. I'd be pretty pissed if I was trolling the web and seen some pic that I posted someplace else that I know I was the only one who had because I took it. Likewise, I'm sure the chicks I've been with would be pretty pissed and feel violated too.

Who cares what you tolerate. It's pretty obvious for all your bark about showing respect..your bite was apparently missing.:banana: But if you're going to go around trying to stop every construction worker from looking at some chick have fun as not only people you think are here illegally do it.


Well "dufus" since this is something foreign to the small beer bubble you've contained yourself in you consider the entire world...many, many, many people are here illegally from Europe, Asia, Central and South America who don't look latino precisely because they have overstayed their welcome.

In the words of President Barack Obama: "brother, you are wearing me out." Seriously, you go on and on sometimes with total bullshit (well, not total bullshit, but quite a bit) and the shit gets tired. And throughout all this thread, you have yet to make a real effort to state your position on the matter. You just like to argue for the sake of arguing. :flame:

Sooooo, we'll let the good folks here decide who has a more potent argument.

 

[meesterperfect]

go to any town in the usa.
any.
and you will see illegal mexicans all over the street.
thats no exaggeration, no fear mongering, no hatred.
thats reality.
if anyone thinks its only the border states then theyre either in denial or living in a cave with a computer.

illegals do cost the american citizens a huge amount of money each year but i won't make a list about the ways at least in which i am aware of.
And thats my main problem with it.
the quality of life is getting worse fast, mainly due to high taxes and huge government/government waste.
so removing illegals who do cost the country billions per year is one way to lower taxes, help the economy and improve the quality of life, or at least slow down the progression of the degeneration of it.

Most people think of the word invasion in terms of one military invading another country by force.
no, when people from one country mass immigrate into another without permission that is an invasion.

final point on this:
if youve got a lifeboat that can only hold 10, and you try to put 20 in it what happens?
EVERYBODY goes down.

 

[pete rose]

not to mention the Taco trucks that are showing up every other block on my side of town, as if those bloody awful things aren't just an eye sore and a shit stain on a once proud, beautiful European-American areas of town just back in the 70s.

Damn them for their business ethic!

By the way, how is the Grand Wizard doing these days? Is he still residing in your once proud (white) Euro-American city?

go to any town in the usa.
any.
and you will see illegal mexicans all over the street.
thats no exaggeration, no fear mongering, no hatred.
thats reality.

Hahahaha you're a riot.