Justice Finally

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There was a struggle but he runs away and the pig unloads to kill instead of calling for back up and a foot chase/car. Plus the guy has to get his car back and the tags will give you address.

 

[sean miguel]

Fear (Whites) and Frustration (Blacks) the two Fs coined in the 50s is the real reason that war on crime means war on black people.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43


http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime/19439



Margaret Sanger, the founder of what became Planned Parenthood and a heroine of progressives, had that ^ in mind with her eugenics.

 

[Jagger69]

Finally a murder charge on a dirty racist pig for shooting a unarmed African American!


artysml:

While it would appear from all the evidence so far that the officer in question is certainly worthy of the charges leveled against him, I find it abhorrent that a black man such as yourself would post an emoticon of people partying while Mr. Scott's family and friends are in serious pain from this week's events and are grieving tremendously over his needless loss. Where's the compassion for a fallen brother, MBG? Or, is it simply that you hope to gain some form of vengeance against the evil white cops without regard for the fact that a man....a son, a brother, a husband, a father and, above all else, a human being, was senselessly gunned down, apparently without provocation and almost certainly without justification. This is not a cause for celebration and to indicate so is in extremely bad taste to say the least.

To revel in the differences that lie between blacks and whites instead of hoping for and reaching toward a way to end them is just not right. I understand your frustration over a number of events in recent memory that would seem to indicate injustice toward black victims of racial bigotry by certain people in authority. However, the only way we rid ourselves of these injustices is to find a way to eliminate, not exacerbate, our differences.

I would ask you to consider these points as you go forward and, although I am not black and would never pretend to know what it is like to be a black man like you living in modern-day America, I do know that the words and philosophies of Dr. King would be a lot more in line with my way of thinking than your extreme hatred for the establishment and your desire for retribution at any cost. As a white American citizen, I extend my hand to you and all people of all races and ethnicities in the spirit of friendship, love, respect and peace. Will you do the same? :dunno:

 

[Johan]

Funny how I get labeled a racist, but without a seconds hesitation, everyone wants the white cop jailed, when he kills a black person, and no where do I ever see anyone looking for facts, just "justice", which I'm guessing really means revenge, and retribution. Now I didn't watch the video, but it's clear from what I've read, this cop crossed a line, and as Ace said, he should be punished for what he did, but I would like to know why no one screams for "justice" when a black cop kills a black kid? I wonder why it's always a hate crime, when a black is killed, but never when any other race is killed. I just got to this thread, and all I see is racism. pretty funny how that works.

Are they many cases of black cops killing blacks kids ?
Because, the problem is that these last monthes we've seen many cases of white cops killing black kid or (unarmed black citizens) and they all got away with it.Even civilians can get away with it b(just like G. Zimmerman).

Now tell me about a recent case of a black cop killing a black kid and give me a list of similar cases in which the cops got away with it and then I would call for "Justice" for this black kid.


Oh and, FYI I would want this cop to be jailed as well if he had killed a white kid. This is not about race, this is about murder.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

There is. It's just that the media and yourself do not pay attention to it. As far as hate crimes being only for blacks, there is a trial in N.C. where the defendants are trying to get the hate crime part removed and the victims were not black. The case were the Australian man was shot in Florida, I myself said that the hate crime should have been applied. The prosecutor did not have the intestinal fortitude to at least try to charge him with it. When it was mentioned in the media none of the talking heads were against it from what I remember.

Why didn't you post a thread for discussion....it could have been a real hoot nanny!

To be fair, no one "screams for justice" when it's a white cop that kills a white guy either. That's not where the dichotomy lies although the intent may be similar or perhaps even identical. I'm sure it happens many times over, regardless of race. Problem is, it's the racial angle that makes it newsworthy for some reason....probably because we have a lot of racial issues yet to overcome in the USA.

You're right. There is no doubt about it, it's race baiting, just like this thread, and a few of the posters around here that like to point fingers, but can't smell there own shit, when it's right in front of them. Of course ratings on the news are always far more important then the truth, or justice. But here's the part I like the best....This cop is white, and he obviously fucked up real good, and he should pay the price for it...and EVERY white person with a lick of common sense, and ounce of logic, will admonish him, and step back, and admit he should be imprisoned. But when a black person commits a crime, no matter how bad, his people will rally behind him, and seek out EVERY, and ANY excuse they can, to justify it, but admit he did wrong, and expect him to pay the price, oh no....that would be the right thing to do, and it's always someone elses fault, never the one that committed the crime.

 

[bahodeme]

Well Rev,
I answered a question in a thread. The shooter mentioned that wanted to shoot the 1st person he saw. Part of my answer was that he should have shot who he saw in the mirror. I also mentioned somewhere in the Michael Brown thread about an unarmed white man in Utah that was shot by the police at the same tine and barely received media attention. Most of the thread I did create that were not obits no one seems to be that concerned. They are more questions like one I created about society not being concerned about education, etc. and where did it begin.

 

[Rey C.]

Several things:

Is the media focusing on cases where White cops have shot unarmed Blacks lately? Yes. Why? It's become a social issue that's generating page views and eyeballs on the TV. The same thing is going on with issues affecting women and gays (wage issues, promotions, same sex marriage, etc.). Is there the same kind of media focus when a Black cop shoots a Black kid, an Hispanic cop shoots an Hispanic kid or a White cop shoots a White kid? No, generally not. Just like there's not the same kind of focus on same sex domestic abuse cases or female/male domestic abuse cases. For lack of a better analogy, it's only a "good" news story when the man bites the dog - not when the dog bites the man or the dog bites another dog. Is that right? Probably not. But they don't call it the news business for nothing.

As for justice, the cop was fired and he's been arrested. But Casey Anthony and O.J. got arrested too. So... the jury is still out (literally) on whether or not there will be justice in this case. And let's remember, if not for the video shot by a very brave citizen, the cop's story, that he was under attack and feared for his life, would have certainly passed muster. And let's not forget that his lie, as he dropped the stun gun next to the guy's lifeless body, was not the only lie told that day. At least one other cop seemingly lied and claimed that he administered CPR on the scene. Unless the video was edited, that was clearly not true. Cleaning house down there would be a good start, IMO.

For those who don't know or realize, cops cover for each other no matter what. As a general rule, they'll either lie for each other or they'll just not say anything if the truth will hurt a brother cop. I have friends who are cops. My family is full of cops. But that is the way it is.

Dirty cops and back-shooters... America is becoming a Republic without honor. And not just cops. That word just doesn't mean much to most people these days.

 

[Whit]

He would have still had to explain why he shot him in the back 4 times, even without the video. There would be Ferguson type protests and a lot more pressure on this case since post Ferguson.
I don't think where the stun gun was has been proven yet. The news keeps playing the shooting HALF of the video, not the beginning where they are fighting. The eye witness said he saw them wrestling on the ground first, when the suspect got away, he started filming.
I don't think he should have shoot the guy running away, but it's another case of do what the cop says and none of this would happen.

 

[Deepcover]

Look how badly the officer and the second officer handled the situation after the shooting...No CPR procedures they just handcuff a man who's been shot. They don't even try to revive the victim. No effort whatsoever. Disgusting.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I mistakingly thought he has been indicted. He probably will be, but it's Mouth Carolina and anything can happen He appears to be guilty as hell or at least should have never worn a badge.

 

[Johan]

The smear job has begun. The medias are now trying to convince people that Walter Scott had it coming, so that only the black community will be outraged when Michael Slager will be cleared of all charges...

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I want to see the missing video. I can't see it clearing him, but it's always something...always a little bit of shady bullshit surrounding this kind of crap.

 

[Johan]

He speaks of manslaughter. To him, it is nor murder, it's manslaughter. But this is just the beginning, soon Hannity, O'Reilly, Carlsson and Boling will call for slager to be cleared of all charges.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Apparently you didn't listen very well. He clearly said it was unforgivable, he simply points out, that everything was done by the numbers, up until that point, and the cops lawyer should begin NEGOTIATING A PLEA for manslaughter. Not a word was spoken about the murder charge being dropped. Not a word about this being justifiable. You obviously missed the part about more whites being shot by police, and that this should have never been about race, and it shouldn't have. The dead guy should have never run either. I want to know what that warrant was for, if there was one, and if it was for something serious, that may have given this officer a reason to believe this guy was a threat to himself, or the public, that should be given serious consideration. I wish the taser would have worked, and the guy resisted even more, so he could have used a night stick to beat the fuck out of him

Again, all you, and most of the "Fuckin pigs suck", and "another racist cop kills a black man" crowd, could care less about justice, you're all a vengeful mob, and all you care about, is seeing a white man pay the ultimate price. It sickens me that there is a group of members here that have the unmitigated gall to call and label others as racist, when non of you are any fucking better.

 

[Deepcover]

 

[Deepcover]

Couldn't help myself lol...

 

[Rey C.]

I don't think he should have shoot the guy running away, but it's another case of do what the cop says and none of this would happen.

Possibly. But this same cop has had at least one other complaint filed against him for using excessive force. The department swept that one under the rug... until this happened. Now it looks as if that entire police department has lots of explaining to do.

If the guy had done as requested, he *may* not have gotten shot. He still may have gotten beaten up or tased. Given this cop's alleged past history, we just don't know what provokes him to use excessive force. The only thing we know right now is that the cop appears to have violated the rules on when it is permissible to fire on a fleeing suspect. So while I get your point, it's also true that had Officer Michael Slager not drawn his weapon and fired at a man's back (who posed no threat to him), none of this would have happened either. That he lied about it and apparently staged a scene to make it seem like self-defense, just makes the hole deeper for him... and any other cops who went along with his story.

 

[Jagger69]

The only thing we know right now is that the cop appears to have violated the rules on when it is permissible to fire on a fleeing suspect. So while I get your point, it's also true that had Officer Michael Slager not drawn his weapon and fired at a man's back (who posed no threat to him), none of this would have happened either. That he lied about it and apparently staged a scene to make it seem like self-defense, just makes the hole deeper for him... and any other cops who went along with his story.

:goodpost:

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Possibly. But this same cop has had at least one other complaint filed against him for using excessive force. The department swept that one under the rug... until this happened. Now it looks as if that entire police department has lots of explaining to do.

If the guy had done as requested, he *may* not have gotten shot. He still may have gotten beaten up or tased. Given this cop's alleged past history, we just don't know what provokes him to use excessive force. The only thing we know right now is that the cop appears to have violated the rules on when it is permissible to fire on a fleeing suspect. So while I get your point, it's also true that had Officer Michael Slager not drawn his weapon and fired at a man's back (who posed no threat to him), none of this would have happened either. That he lied about it and apparently staged a scene to make it seem like self-defense, just makes the hole deeper for him... and any other cops who went along with his story.

IS there any SPECIFIC details about the excessive force...like was he arresting a drunk driver, or a child murderer. I just wonder where his adrenalin level was, not that it makes it okay, but sometimes it's hard to keep your temper when a kid is hurt, or something horrid. This guy probably shouldn't have been a cop in the first place, but some how there's always a couple that can beat the tests.

 

[Johan]

Apparently you didn't listen very well. He clearly said it was unforgivable, he simply points out, that everything was done by the numbers, up until that point, and the cops lawyer should begin NEGOTIATING A PLEA for manslaughter. Not a word was spoken about the murder charge being dropped.

You're the one who didn't listen very well :
1:32
Rivera : [...] I think it saves him from the murder wrap
Hasselbeck : [can't hear clearly the begining of her sentence] shooting him in the back dead ?
Rivera : Elizabeth this is an excellent point. This is a horrible horrible shooting but thre was no premeditation, this is manslaughter. I believe this is manslaughter

Then he mentions the lawyer and the plea but he clearly stated that, to him, this does not qualify for murder

Not a word about this being justifiable. You obviously missed the part about more whites being shot by police, and that this should have never been about race, and it shouldn't have.

And you mised the part where he agrees that, it is true in absolut numbers but not in proportion.

The dead guy should have never run either. I want to know what that warrant was for, if there was one, and if it was for something serious, that may have given this officer a reason to believe this guy was a threat to himself, or the public, that should be given serious consideration. I wish the taser would have worked, and the guy resisted even more, so he could have used a night stick to beat the fuck out of him

There was no warrant. His folks reported that the reason he ran away could be that he feared there may be a warrant and then some Fox News "reporter" started to say there was one but according to the Associated Press, there wasn't.
Walter Scott had somme issues with Justice by the past but nothing serious:

The Associated Press reported on Friday that while Scott owed $7,500 in back payments for child support, there was no bench warrant issued for his arrest at the time of his death. Officer Slager fatally shot Scott in the back as the latter ran away after an alleged scuffle in North Charleston, S.C.
In 2008, after a traffic stop in which he was charged with an open-container violation and driving under suspension, he was sent to jail in Charleston for six months for failing to pay about $6,800. In 2011, bench warrants ordered deputies to bring him in, and Scott spent a night in jail when he was $7,500 behind. In 2012, he spent another night in jail when he owed $3,500.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/there-was-no-arrest-warrant-for-walter-scott/

Again, all you, and most of the "Fuckin pigs suck", and "another racist cop kills a black man" crowd, could care less about justice, you're all a vengeful mob, and all you care about, is seeing a white man pay the ultimate price. It sickens me that there is a group of members here that have the unmitigated gall to call and label others as racist, when non of you are any fucking better.

Actually what you cal "the ultimate price" would be the death sentence, which I'm against. What I wanna see is cops who kill unarmed people behind bars.