1) When the medias are manipulated by a hord of savage ben ladenists and are watched by illiterate and unable to think people, you have people that are brainwashed and that believe in the extreme.
2) Instead of pressuring Israel, the UN should see who is responsible and swho encourages bombing against civilians. And giving millions of $ to a government that advocates killing innocent civilians and backs up terrorism, that tells a lot about how "fair" is the U.N. The U.N. is full of shit and Kofi Annan is a fucking utter piece of dog shit, same comment goes for U.N. representatives who voted to put the unjustified pressures against Israel. Israel will certainly destroy Iran's nuclear plants one day or another, it will be a good lesson for Iran because you don't fuck with Israel. When you encourage pressure and unjustified sanctions in, any form against Israel, you are anti semite, end of story. Most members of the U.N. are a disgrace for their own country.
3) The lovely U.N. gave them billions and in what went these billions? To build kassams, buy ak 47s and other terrorist plans. A population who can't think by its own and who accept hating another one and even killing other people because they don't have the same beliefs is a doomed and irresponsible population. Hamas people are terrorists who are backstabbers, backstabbers need to have their head cut off, once the head is cut off, the threat is neutralized for ever.
If I made those comments about the state of Israel I would probably be labelled as anti-semetic
What your words demonstrate are as I said before, there are extremists on both sides - and ur views are extreme and lack fact. So let me clarify a few things...
Al Jazeera is the ONLY truly free press in the Arab world. We should all encourage freedom in that part of the world, because free press expresses differing viewpoints and allows the masses to begin to think and define their own viewpoints as a result. The fact that Al Jazeera has aired Bin Laden tapes (and only parts of them) is not an extreme view. I can find them on the internet. But by airing tapes and messages we can get the full story - not just the half CNN puts out. We have all seen horrific images of bus bombings inside Israel on CNN and other American stations - but how often do we see the daily killing of innocent Palestenians being aired on CNN? Do u recall the family at the beach in Gaza (7 in all having a picnic) that was bombarded by the Israeli navy? It was covered briefly here - but I cannot tell you the names of any one of those people - but we all know the single Israeli soldier held by the Palestians - Gilad Shalit - can you or anyone else name ANY Palestenian prisoner? Some of which by the way are under the age of 10 as documented by Amnesty International and the Red Crecent. I am glad to get the other view point - to see the costs of war. We are bombing Iraq but we truly dont know what war is like because we havent experienced it here in this day and age - but isnt better to see what life is really like? To know the full costs and benefits of war? To make a more informed decision about using it in the future? Bin Laden, is responsible for 9/11 and yes I want to know what he is doing or planning and if the only place I can get that info is AL Jazeera then so be it - i would rather be in a position of knowledge than not. I wont comment on ur point about illiterate etc etc - that sounds like hate speech where if anyone said it about Jews u would surely say they were anti semetic...so then what are you? I will stick to logical arguments.
About the UN - are you aware of how Israel was founded? It wasnt on roses and daffidils. Israel bombed the Brits and the Arabs ....what you might call terrorism to establish their state - there were no negotiations. So if you want the UN to look at who encourages and kills civilians look no further than Israel's founding for a good starting point. Furthermore, the Oslo meetings will always be famous for the Syrian foreign minister pointing out at the time that the most wanted man in Britain for more than a decade on terrorism charges, was Yitzak Shamir (Prime minister of Israel at the time). He was to the Brits as Bin Laden is to us. Dont forget the history because making points out of context is a mistake - there is tremendous history involved here. So terrorism in the Middle East was actually introduced by the Zionists in the British mandate of Palestine - so I gues what comes around goes around.
As far as Iran goes, Iran has no interest in Israel. When the president of Iran says Israel will be wiped off the map what he is referring to is the fact that the demographics of the area are changing such that Israel will not exist in its currnet form. In fact, Ehud Olmert, stated the same thing - again just check back in the press to see yourself. Everyone understands that Palestenians will outnumber Jews in a few years and Israel will have to accomodate them or be branded an Arpatheid state which no one in the world will tolerate or do business with. So yes, there is a chance Israel will not exist in its present form. In a desperate attempt, we see a disengagement plan, building of a wall, Bush's peace plan etc all being rushed before that happens - but one thing is missing....PEACE! You cannot have peace with yourself.
Hamas is popular why? becuase they believe in unity through religion. THey see the arab language as a secondary unifying theme. What they espouse is that religion is what unites them and they are offering an alternative to secular governments who have failed their peoples. I dont support Hamas but I can see their popularity when Fatah who ruled for 4 decades brouught nothing. Any people's would vote them out. If Israel doesnt like what they have created (and lets remember what role Ariel Sharon played in the development of Hamas - as he championed Hamas as an alternative to Fatah years ago) maybe they should search for a JUST and FAIR peace. A more pragmatic view would be useful. American Jews who are extreme are hindering the process more than helping it. Hamas doesnt kill others because they dont have the same belief as them - that again is an irreponsible statment. If this were true they would have killed off the Palestenian christian population which has not happened, as well as journalists of other faiths and beliefs who travel to the Gaza strip. In fact, the facts show that Israel has killed more foreigners then Hamas including an American peace activist by the name of Rachel Corrie - who was run over by an Israeli bulldozer because she was trying to stop the bulldozing of a Palestenian home of a family with which she was staying. The reason for that bulldozing was to create a "buffer" zone. Look at the videos and details and tell me that was not intentional - videos are irrefutable evidence. The problem is I never saw her case on CNN...but if she was on a bus blown up by Hamas I am sure we would have gotten to know her intimately. So if you wish to make an argument lets try to keep the "anti-arab" sentiment out of it and base arguments on facts and theories rather than on "hate" speech.
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