Jesus christ

[Mandy Flores]

If you're making a reference to what I posted I would point out that I was merely trolling assari for being a douche bag. If you're making a hasty judgment of me based on the exchanges in this one thread I'd caution you to be wary of hypocrisy.

I'm not making any reference to you there, I'm making reference to people who do that



The Big Bang has the qualifier of "theory" attached to it. Any theory is hotly debated in scientific circles, otherwise it would be called the Law of The Big Bang. Small detail, perhaps, but an important distinction and particularly informative of the background of the person engaged in discussion. There are many theories of cosmology, many dating back to the pre-Socratic ancient Greeks. I'm particularly fond of the Apeiron of Anaximander, Pythagoreanism, and Epicureanism and the further that modern physics dives into the origins of the universe the more ideas of the ancient Greeks keep coming back up. For example, there's some interesting studies being conducted on the Vortex theory of Anaxagoras.

Ok, you're very much more well read than I, maybe I'll catch up someday.

God can mean different things. I have no problem with God, or Jesus Christ. I have a problem with assholes like assari that use religion to troll.

Me too. Not assari exactly, but people who use religion to troll

 

[squallumz]

fucking move this shit to politics. bunch of runaround arguments here too. pointless.

 

[squallumz]

fucking move this shit to politics. bunch of runaround arguments here too. pointless.

 

[eponymous]

-A true Christian does not judge anyone.

People judge themselves.

If you are a mercenary or a murderer no one can help you and you go to hell and there are also other things that block acces to heaven.

The leaves with hair fall swiftly from the blades of glory in the old town square to the east of nothingness itself. In the dark.

 

[assari]

Jesus was a socialist.

He gave people free food and broke the capitalists bazaar tables.

Therefore it is unfortune that his birthday is such a commericial event.

 

[eponymous]

Jesus was a socialist.

He gave people free food and broke the capitalists bazaar tables.

Therefore it is unfortune that his birthday is such a commericial event.

When the day of judgment comes, she shall be adorned by countless wigs of satin, lace and beef stroganoff where squash you like a bug is a wistful cannery in the Alaskan frontier.

 

[JasonCook78]

 

[xfire]

 

[Gordar]

Jesus was a socialist.

He gave people free food and broke the capitalists bazaar tables.

Therefore it is unfortune that his birthday is such a commericial event.

I suggest you start preaching to the people who live in the bible belt & generally vote Republican.

 

[assari]

I suggest you start preaching to the people who live in the bible belt & generally vote Republican.

It would be kind of pointless to preach to people who do not listen.

Republicans are against equality, but they are not as bad as the liberals who want to suppress freedom of expression.

 

[eponymous]

Well Epo, I didn't condemn anyone for believing or not believing.

There are people, who don't believe in God, that want so desperately for the notion of God and an afterlife to go away that they will lie(even to themselves) and say anything to justify their beliefs.
That's the truth, there is no disputing it. I did not condemn anyone, you took it that way for some unknown reason, maybe you are used to being attacked by people who believe in God, I get attacked by them DAILY in my emails and blogs so I can relate.

There are people, who DO believe in God, that want so desperately to validate their belief they will lie(even to themselves) and say just about anything to justify THEIR beliefs, and to take money from other believers.
There is no disputing that.

As far as people turning away from God in this day and age.....it is also indisputable. Hell, even in my own group of friends if you say you believe in Jesus Christ as your one true Lord and Savior you get looked at as if you're some kind of freak..... something almost unimaginable 70 years ago, hell, 70 years ago most people in the group would just say "Amen!" now you'd be lucky if even one of them said "oh, that's nice'

I have neither condemned someone for not believing in God nor praised those that do believe in God.

What disturbs me is that both sides of the issue have people so closed minded that they become angry and hateful towards others who don't believe as they do. Using Hell and eternal damnation to force people to love God....hate it!

Using lies and put downs to try and take peoples faith from them...hate it!

I'm open to the Big Bang theory, you still have to believe in what is not scientifically proven or even possible. Don't say it is proven, it is only a hypothesis, a guess at best.

I DO believe in God (obviously) even though it is scientifically unproven and requires belief in the impossible.

I appreciate your point of view. Knowing that you yourself are persecuted daily for what you do by religious zealots sheds a great deal of light on what you said originally.

While condemning may be too harsh a word, in fact I think you are singling out a bunch of people, viz., anyone who causes others to turn away from faith, intentionally or otherwise. For example, those who believe and coerce others with promises of punishment or reward, those who don't believe and lie and insult believers, and many others.

Obviously, I don't think any more of the mean-spirited ones than you do. On the other hand, it's hard not to believe that you're generalizing here, because the only things these people seem to have in common are that they don't believe what you believe, and that you've decided, not only what their intentions are, but what their motives are as well.

Personally, I'm not motivated to be an atheist. I just am. I believe there is no God because all the information and logic available to me tells me it's the rational conclusion. Faith is an extension of rational thought, not a substitute for it. And for me, faith in a God would be disingenuous given the things I truly have faith in, which includes science. I neither expect nor intend my beliefs to be offensive to you or to anyone else, but I am also not shy about expressing my beliefs and arguing on their behalf.

 

[assari]

I appreciate your point of view. Knowing that you yourself are persecuted daily for what you do by religious zealots sheds a great deal of light on what you said originally.

I do not think that Christians condemn sex workers.

Sex movie viewers may condemn them.

(Or at least their wives and girlfriends)

 

[eponymous]

I do not think that Christians condemn sex workers.

Sex movie viewers may condemn them.

(Or at least their wives and girlfriends)

Maple leaves pour into the body effortlessly, yet they wash aside like the moat of an ancient castle which is not yet one. Now it is.