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Is 'Paki' Really A Racist Word?
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BananaPalmer
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Probably, though I can't see how. It's an abbreviation. I'm Australian and Aussie's not considered racist.
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dave_rhino
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If it wasn't used in a derogatory way, it would be fine as an abbreviation.
Some people like to think that's all it is, but it's not.
Some people like to think that's all it is, but it's not.
dave_rhino
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Infact, the opposite. My asian friends call each other or other pakistanis "pakis" as an insult, replacing the word "idiot".
If the people it is used towards think it's offensive then that's pretty much it.
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Oh . . oh . . oh ! Careful with that "asian" business !
Soft spot here in the Peoples Republik of Cal. for that kind of stuff.The individuals that you might refer to as "Asians", here, prefer an identity specific to their national origin. It's better to allow them to yield "the goods" as far as the revelation of their origin.
Note to thread author : Let's focus on a survival plan for ourselves into the next 10 - dozen odd years. All of the touchy feely stuff will be waiting for us . . upon completion of assignment. Survivability first . . . emotions last.
I know in my neck of the woods, Pakistanis do not see the term as derogatory and use it in conversation with each other. In college I was around a lot of Pakistanis as my best friend was the president of the Pakistani Students Association. He often used the term "Paki" to describe himself and other Pakistanis.
But of course, none of that matters, because as Fox so kindly let it be known, the world revolves around England and the opinion of someone from another country doesn't matter since they don't know what they're talking about.
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But of course, none of that matters, because as Fox so kindly let it be known, the world revolves around England and the opinion of someone from another country doesn't matter since they don't know what they're talking about.
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dave_rhino
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I know in my neck of the woods, Pakistanis do not see the term as derogatory and use it in conversation with each other. In college I was around a lot of Pakistanis as my best friend was the president of the Pakistani Students Association. He often used the term "Paki" to describe himself and other Pakistanis.
But of course, none of that matters, because as Fox so kindly let it be known, the world revolves around England and the opinion of someone from another country doesn't matter since they don't know what they're talking about.
It is different in England though, with the popular trend of "paki-bashing" in the late 70's/80's. I think the British are a lot more sensitive about it.
I totally understand that, but the thread starter asked for people's opinions on the matter. He didn't clarify that he only wanted the Brits' opinions. I was a little upset that Fox seemed to jump on that one guy when he was only expressing his opinion on the matter from his own experience.
Literally, it's no different than Aussie, Brit, ***, Kiwi, Yankee or any other abbreviated term. Some of them, however, have become tainted, for example the Aborigines of Australia strongly object to the term "Abo," even though it's no different to any other shortened nationality or nickname. Offensiveness is subjective, and if a lot of people don't like it, even if you can't see a reason, it's best not to use it.
really the only thing that matters is if it is offensive or not.
But to say "it's not offensive, and if you are offended by it, too bad, I'm going to call you that anyway to show how unoffensive it is" is a really stupid idea.
I'm not a big fan of this PC notion of banning words and always having to check everything that we might say because it might be taken out of context, but you have a responsibility to be aware of that context and use discretion about it. Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should.
No, the problem is not the word. the problem is people that go out of their way to antagonize and be offensive towards others or just to not even be considerate of them and think that is what free speech means.
But to say "it's not offensive, and if you are offended by it, too bad, I'm going to call you that anyway to show how unoffensive it is" is a really stupid idea.
I'm not a big fan of this PC notion of banning words and always having to check everything that we might say because it might be taken out of context, but you have a responsibility to be aware of that context and use discretion about it. Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should.
No, the problem is not the word. the problem is people that go out of their way to antagonize and be offensive towards others or just to not even be considerate of them and think that is what free speech means.
I whould say it depends on when/how you use it.
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