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Herman Cain would sign abortion amendment

If he isn't one I have yet to see facts to the contrary, at least in a real world common sense way. Things supporting the fact he's stupid or corrupt are plenty though. :2 cents:

Another person that is scared shitless of Gingrich debating Obama.
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
What's Gingrich accomplished other than being an academic and sucking off the public tit?

Well, he managed to pull off one of the best public displays of hypocrisy ever by investigating Clinton for adultery while quietly fucking one of his staffers.

This was while he was married to the woman he cheated on his first wife with; that wife was told he was divorcing her while she was in hospital recovering from surgery.

I think he's a perfect public figure.
 
Well, he managed to pull off one of the best public displays of hypocrisy ever by investigating Clinton for adultery while quietly fucking one of his staffers.

This was while he was married to the woman he cheated on his first wife with; that wife was told he was divorcing her while she was in hospital recovering from surgery.

I think he's a perfect public figure.

a couple of points you are missing in all of that.

1-The Clinton impeachment hearings were not about adultery.

2-He was overseeing the House hearings, not investigating the matter.

3-He was not deposed about his affair

4- Thus, he did not commit perjury.


Other than that, you make excellent points.
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
a couple of points you are missing in all of that.

1-The Clinton impeachment hearings were not about adultery.

2-He was overseeing the House hearings, not investigating the matter.

3-He was not deposed about his affair

4- Thus, he did not commit perjury.


Other than that, you make excellent points.

1 - no they weren't but the Republicans - with Gingrich at the forefront - made them about that and used them as a moral battering ram to attack Clinton, directly linking his adultery to his ability to lead

2 - the house hearing were investigating the matter, so ....

3 - so fucking what. My post is about hypocrisy, not legal culpability

4. No one said he did. See (3) above

Other than that, you made an excellent response.
 
You listed a bunch of Fox News talking points. Reading comprehension requires something coherent be posted. Why are you getting upset, anyway? I haven't attacked you.


I once lived under communisim (Viet Nam) and know first hand how evil it is.

Food for thought: The concept of wealth/income distribution never works. Looks at Europe (Socialism) and any other communist countries. They are all bankrupted.

As for taxing the rich or corporation, if you tax them too much, they will do business elsewhere (See China and other states like Texas).

All Obama tries to create is government jobs (taking or taxing one groups to create jobs for other groups) but this President does not know how to create private jobs. Private sectors are what drive this country, not public sector. This country is broke as it is and if more government jobs are created, this means more government spending. The government can't just keep on spending.


Mr. Obama has already accumulated 4 plus trillions in national dept (5 trillions by the end of last year). We can't just spend ourselves to death.
 
That's such a non-starter. Explain to me what Obama has done that's "socialist/marxist". Bear in mind the many "socialist/marxist" things done by republicans while you're at it.

Nice cut-and-paste job above, btw. Have you ever considered a career in writing? You are so eloquent.

I was once brainwashed with Karl Marx book by the Viet Cong. And believe me republicans haven't done anything resembled socialist/marxist. I am a realist and Obama and the modern democrats (not your father's or Kennedy's democrats) are praticing socialism right now, half a step away from being communism. See wealth distribution.
 
1 - no they weren't but the Republicans - with Gingrich at the forefront - made them about that and used them as a moral battering ram to attack Clinton, directly linking his adultery to his ability to lead

2 - the house hearing were investigating the matter, so ....

3 - so fucking what. My post is about hypocrisy, not legal culpability

4. No one said he did. See (3) above

Other than that, you made an excellent response.

1- They linked the fact that the POTUS may have committed a felony therefore affecting his ability to lead,

2- As Speaker it was his job. You make it seem as if he was leading the charge. He was not.

3- It is not hypocrisy if there is sufficient evidence that the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the land has committed perjury and the House which he oversees is conducting hearings about something that he himself has not committed or been accused of.

4-Of course you didn't. You conveniently left that tidbit out.


I'm glad I could clear that up for you. No charge.
 
I once lived under communisim (Viet Nam) and know first hand how evil it is.

Food for thought: The concept of wealth/income distribution never works. Looks at Europe (Socialism) and any other communist countries. They are all bankrupted.

As for taxing the rich or corporation, if you tax them too much, they will do business elsewhere (See China and other states like Texas).

All Obama tries to create is government jobs (taking or taxing one groups to create jobs for other groups) but this President does not know how to create private jobs. Private sectors are what drive this country, not public sector. This country is broke as it is and if more government jobs are created, this means more government spending. The government can't just keep on spending.


Mr. Obama has already accumulated 4 plus trillions in national dept (5 trillions by the end of last year). We can't just spend ourselves to death.

From someone that has lived it. Thanks for sharing.
 
Wealth distribution and class warfare are focal points of of socialism and communism. And now Obama is practicing it.

If you tax or hammer job creators, i.e., the rich and corporations, you will lose jobs, lots of jobs. At first, revenue (collected by the government) will temporarily be used to create some government jobs but that will be short-lived. Fewer private sector jobs mean fewer tax revenue the government can collect. Fewer tax revenue mean the government has less money to spend. Less money to spend means the government has to borrow more money (Right now the government spends around 1.5 trillion dollars more than they take in). We can't just spend our ways (taxpayers' money) out of recession. The best way to get out of an economic downturn is to promote growth in private sectors.

Poland is one of the lowest taxed countries in Europe and they don't suffer economic downturn like the rest of Europe. Canada gets out of the recession by being realistic, i.e., taking advantage of their oil and gas reserve. It's hard to recover when people have to pay $3 or more for a gallon of gas.
 
Wealth distribution and class warfare are focal points of of socialism and communism. And now Obama is practicing it.

If you tax or hammer job creators, i.e., the rich and corporations, you will lose jobs, lots of jobs. At first, revenue (collected by the government) will temporarily be used to create some government jobs but that will be short-lived. Fewer private sector jobs mean fewer tax revenue the government can collect. Fewer tax revenue mean the government has less money to spend. Less money to spend means the government has to borrow more money (Right now the government spends around 1.5 trillion dollars more than they take in). We can't just spend our ways (taxpayers' money) out of recession. The best way to get out of an economic downturn is to promote growth in private sectors.

Poland is one of the lowest taxed countries in Europe and they don't suffer economic downturn like the rest of Europe. Canada gets out of the recession by being realistic, i.e., taking advantage of their oil and gas reserve. It's hard to recover when people have to pay $3 or more for a gallon of gas.

Christmas has come early at my house tonight. :1orglaugh :hatsoff:
 

TheOrangeCat

AFK..being taken to the vet to get neutered.
1- They linked the fact that the POTUS may have committed a felony therefore affecting his ability to lead,

2- As Speaker it was his job. You make it seem as if he was leading the charge. He was not.

3- It is not hypocrisy if there is sufficient evidence that the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the land has committed perjury and the House which he oversees is conducting hearings about something that he himself has not committed or been accused of.

4-Of course you didn't. You conveniently left that tidbit out.


I'm glad I could clear that up for you. No charge.

1. they also linked the adultery. That was my point. It thought that was pretty clear, yet again, English is my first language.
2. So, now it was his job to oversee the investigation into the allegations you first said that he wasn't investigating, but that as the Speaker - i.e. the senior leadership figure for the GOP in the House - he wasn't leading the charge. Well, thanks for clearing that up. makes perfect sense now.
3. Hypocrisy (hɪˈpɒkrəsɪ) the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behaviour, esp the pretence of virtue and piety
So, yes it was, yes he is as I was talking about - and have only posted about - his hypocrisy in relation to his personal behavior versus his public actions. This whole perjury thing is your misdirected interjection.
3. I left it out, because I never mentioned it, because my post isn't and wasn't about it


If this is still too complex for you to understand, can try and explain in crayons using only two syllable words.
 
Somebody mentions about Fox news. I have watched tons of news from various news network and come to the conclusion Fox news is much more fair and balance (reporting the truth) than other news networks.

Once upon a time there was south Viet Nam and north Viet Nam. Making long story short the North took over the South. It turned out some of the news media people of south Viet Nam (suppose to be a free press corp) had secretly joined the communist. I am afraid (I hope and pray that I am wrong) that it has already happened in the U.S. See CNN, ABC, CBS news and many others as they are protecting Obama like he is their father. Clear and present danger to individual liberty as we know it. The White House press corp are afraid (intimidated) to death to ask the President any tough questions. See Fasts and Furious, Solyndra and other green companies (all were big money contributors to Mr. Obama).
 
One of the biggest misconceptions (more like being misinformed) is that communist governments will provide healthcare to their people. It's further from the truth. In Viet Nam if you don't have money and health insurance you are screwed. Same with China.

And one important thing about communism: No individual freedom. The government is God. No criticisms. No questions asked.
 
Many states across the land, e.g., California, Ohio, New York ...etc, are under serious budget deficit simply because of the socialist policies. The peope who run it are not realistic. They are living in lala land. They are idealists who refuse to accept realities. When realities hit them too hard, they have to resort to lie.
 
Believe me, at first I was impressed with Karl Marx stuff. It sounded so good, so fair and so gun-ho but it just does not work (See any other communist countries). From that point on I become a realist. Trust through verification.
 
1. they also linked the adultery. That was my point. It thought that was pretty clear, yet again, English is my first language.
2. So, now it was his job to oversee the investigation into the allegations you first said that he wasn't investigating, but that as the Speaker - i.e. the senior leadership figure for the GOP in the House - he wasn't leading the charge. Well, thanks for clearing that up. makes perfect sense now.
3. Hypocrisy (hɪˈpɒkrəsɪ) the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behaviour, esp the pretence of virtue and piety
So, yes it was, yes he is as I was talking about - and have only posted about - his hypocrisy in relation to his personal behavior versus his public actions. This whole perjury thing is your misdirected interjection.
3. I left it out, because I never mentioned it, because my post isn't and wasn't about it


If this is still too complex for you to understand, can try and explain in crayons using only two syllable words.

1- Now it is they "also" linked the adultery. Your initial charge was that adultery was the only thing that concerned them Please make up your mind.

If English is your first language I would suggest that you not take up a second one until get a grasp of it. You don't seem like much of a multi-tasker to me.

2- I said they were not investigating adultery. They were not. Charges of perjury were brought by the Special Counsel. These charges stemmed from a civil suit that led to Clinton lying under oath. Perhaps next time I should post a photo of a shiny object to grab your attention so you will be more apt to read it.


3- Please link where Gingrich stated that "President Clinton is a low down dirty dog for cheating on Hillary with all those bitches!" Perhaps then you will be able to stake claim to hypocrisy. If you could be so kind as to show any example of Gingrich stating publicly that he was perfect and a faithful husband during this time. Can you even name the woman from which the deposition even arose? I am in a generous mood tonight and I am willing to award extra credit for initiative in Googling.

Lastly, or the other "3" That's right we already covered that didn't we? And it was an epic fail on your part.


I'm glad we had this little talk. You are eager to learn if nothing else.
 
It's ironic that Mr. Obama is hammering Wall Street and corporations but in fact he's receiving more money from them than anybody else in history.

Mr. Obama said about humility but he and his people keep on throwing names at the oppositions.

Mr. Obama said in one of his speeches that it was unwise to raise tax in a recession. He's now doing the opposite.

Mr. Obama said he's the president of the people but calls his appositions (republicans) his enemies (e.g., "award our friends and punish our enemies").

Mr. Obama said he'd unite this country. He's now practicing class warfare and racism.
 
It's ironic that Mr. Obama is hammering Wall Street and corporations but in fact he's receiving more money from them than anybody else in history.

Mr. Obama said about humility but he and his people keep on throwing names at the oppositions.

Mr. Obama said in one of his speeches that it was unwise to raise tax in a recession. He's now doing the opposite.

Mr. Obama said he's the president of the people but calls his appositions (republicans) his enemies (e.g., "award our friends and punish our enemies").

Mr. Obama said he'd unite this country. He's now practicing class warfare and racism.

I believe that hlegsex has this thread in hand now. I will gladly sit back and watch while he or she continues to bunker bust the liberals that have chimed in.
:1orglaugh
 
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