Election 2008

[dick van cock]

^ kak·is·toc·ra·cy [kak-uh-stok-ruh-see] ^


1) government by the worst persons; a form of government in which the worst persons are in power.


2)Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.


3)"government by the worst element of a society,"


:dunno:

I reckon that's another vote for me.

The problem is that the brightest and most qualified minds prefer to work in private enterprises.

Such as WorldCom and Enron. :uohs:

 

[ninetysixcavy]

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kak·is·toc·ra·cy [kak-uh-stok-ruh-see]



1) government by the worst persons; a form of government in which the worst persons are in power.

2)Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.

3)"government by the worst element of a society,"


:dunno:

:rofl:

Yes...very true. There is only one candidate left worth voting for, and you and I know who that is. We also both know he will not be elected. :o

 

[titsrock]

Sad day today...John Edwards bailed the race and proved once again...the old axiom: Nice guys finish last

I am committed to Obama now. I might've considered Billary if not for her "acceptance speech" last night. Um. Memo Clintons...there was no FL Democratic primary last night. If you won't play by the rules set forth by the DNC...please pay your fines. If I was Howard Dean, I'd fine the Billary campaign for this action.

All I can do is laugh at RUUUUDY:thefinger Gee, what a "great" strategy he had...:1orglaugh

 

[Fresno]

His the only one for president.

 

[Hoodoo]

I think Barack Obama is going to be our next president...

 

[Friday on my mind]

With John McCain as the republican nominee or even worse yet Mitt Romney I beleive the nomination of Obama for the Dems will make history.A 50 state landslide for the pubs would make history.If dems are going to throw away their chances to win to nominate the 1st black lets find someone more worthy not someone who thinks Reagan was a reasonable response to what he calls the excesses of the 60s and 70s.

 

[tartanterrier]

Nader Warns Bloomberg Not to Run :eek:

Only Room for One Egomaniac in Race, Activist Says

Not so fast.

That was the message delivered today to New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg by consumer activist Ralph Nader, who warned Mr. Bloomberg, "If some egomaniac is going to jump in and screw up this election, it's going to be me."

Mr. Nader established an exploratory committee for a presidential bid today to let Mr. Bloomberg know that there was "only room for one self-absorbed gas-bag in the 2008 race."

At a press conference in Washington, Mr. Nader said that voters who are looking for someone to spoil the 2008 election should be suspicious of Mr. Bloomberg's motives: "Michael Bloomberg has a track record of winning elections, not screwing them up."

In contrast, Mr. Nader said, "I know how hard it is to wreck an election, and I am prepared to put in the long hours necessary to mess this one up big-time."

If both Mr. Nader and Mr. Bloomberg were to enter the race, they would be competing head to head for the vote of egomaniacs, who make up three percent of the electorate nationwide but closer to fifty percent in California and New York.

Speaking to that egomaniac constituency, Mr. Nader called Mr. Bloomberg a "novice spoiler," adding, "When it comes to screwing up elections, experience matters."

"Michael Bloomberg can't point to a single election he's messed up – I can," he said. "I am ready to screw this one up on Day One."

Elsewhere, Attorney General Michael Mukasey clarified his position on waterboarding, saying, "Having to answer questions about whether waterboarding is ******* or not is *******."

 

[Friday on my mind]

With John McCain as the republican nominee or even worse yet Mitt Romney I beleive the nomination of Obama for the Dems will make history.A 50 state landslide for the pubs would make history.If dems are going to throw away their chances to win to nominate the 1st black lets find someone more worthy not someone who thinks Reagan was a reasonable response to what he calls the excesses of the 60s and 70s.

A few more thoughts on the electability issue.First let me say I think it is very important that another pub not be allowed to win the White House.One of the most important reasons being the possible appointment of new members of the supreme court as well as othe judicial appointments.All the pubs say they would appoint more like Scalia,Thomas ,Allito and Roberts.These are people who are anti individual rights and have turned the supreme court hard right.
Edwards was the best shot on electability I think but since he did not get there Hillary is now by far the best chance IMO. While I do not think Hillary would be a sure thing to win she would have a good shot at it IMO.She could attract a lot of moderate republican white suburban women away form the pubs I think.And remember women are the largest single group of voters in the country.I actually think the strongest ticket would be Hillary at the top of the ticket with Obama as her running mate.I still think Obama is more style than substance but I do acknowledge his appeal to many.So in order to appeal to both camps I think a Clinton/Obama ticket would be very formidable for the pubs.But she needs to be at the top of the ticket or again the dems will lose badly if Obama is at the top of the ticket.This election is important and winning is the only thing that counts.

 

[SandeeW.Fan]

Oback Barrama...








er... I mean Barrack Obama

 

[titsrock]

The only Repub candidate that might make the Dem nominee "sweat" is Mitt Romney. If he didn't change his positions in a shameless ploy for the "evangelical vote" then Romney would have this thing wrapped up already for the Repubs. I think McCain is WOEFULLY out of his league to be president. I can't believe the Repub base will elect a nominee so fundamentally flawed about the economy and business issues!! Seriously. 68% of America wants OUT OF IRAQ and McCain is surely not going to get us out of Iraq. 18% of that 68% is either Frustrated Repubs or Angry Indies who normally would vote Repub.

If McCain hangs on to win the Nom...I predict a massive, embarrassing loss at the polls come Nov. for him. McCain versus Billary might make a closer race but McCain vs Obama will be a monumental loss for the GOP.

One thing I'm surprised about after watching last night's GOP debate....Mitt Romney is an awful debater. He should've laid SIEGE upon McCain over the Economy and He needs to say "ALRIGHT JOHN! WE GET that you're a War Hero...enough with that. You're not going to win the presidency if you continue to carry Bush's war drum..." etc.

It's time for Romney to change his war position into one of "The job is done. I will bring home the troops and focus on our economy and immigration"...that's the winning message for Romney...imo.

 

[Hoodoo]

i don't want to see two families running the white house.....

Vote Barack Obama for the president of the United States

 

[negator]

The only Repub candidate that might make the Dem nominee "sweat" is Mitt Romney. If he didn't change his positions in a shameless ploy for the "evangelical vote" then Romney would have this thing wrapped up already for the Repubs. I think McCain is WOEFULLY out of his league to be president. I can't believe the Repub base will elect a nominee so fundamentally flawed about the economy and business issues!! Seriously. 68% of America wants OUT OF IRAQ and McCain is surely not going to get us out of Iraq. 18% of that 68% is either Frustrated Repubs or Angry Indies who normally would vote Repub.

If McCain hangs on to win the Nom...I predict a massive, embarrassing loss at the polls come Nov. for him. McCain versus Billary might make a closer race but McCain vs Obama will be a monumental loss for the GOP.

One thing I'm surprised about after watching last night's GOP debate....Mitt Romney is an awful debater. He should've laid SIEGE upon McCain over the Economy and He needs to say "ALRIGHT JOHN! WE GET that you're a War Hero...enough with that. You're not going to win the presidency if you continue to carry Bush's war drum..." etc.

It's time for Romney to change his war position into one of "The job is done. I will bring home the troops and focus on our economy and immigration"...that's the winning message for Romney...imo.

*snicker* arnold endorses mccain. if you peel the stickers off these republicans it says "democrat" underneath.
the choice presented in november will be "when will we leave iraq?".

r) after honorable victory
d) 18 months

the real answer?
never

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[Friday on my mind]

Neitheir Romney or McCain are advocating leaving Iraq.McCain says we might be there a 100 years and Romney has been screaming he didn't advocate timetables to leave like McCain is saying he did and wants to build up the military.McCain will be the nominee for the pubs I think,and thats too bad.He is by far the tougher candidate for the dems I think.His reputation for being a maverick and straight shooter is appealing to many.Romney is a political chameleon(Flipper they call him) who will be one person to get elected Gov of Massachusettes and then go right wing to appeal to the pub base to run for prez.
I know many think the dems in congress should have us out of Iraq already but a determined president is not easily made to back down on such things in spite of dem majority's.Between the inherent powers of the presidency and the "bully pulpit" many a president has pursued unpopular courses in spite of congressional disapproval.Thats why it so important to replace him with a dem and not someone who will pursue the same course.That means Hillary IMO,she and a dem majority in congress will start to leave Iraq as they are committed to it now and will have no obstacles and lots of pressure to fulfill their promise .

 

[dick van cock]

That was a good debate.

Obama won it by a slight margin, imo. He was more convincing on foreign policy. Both their health care plans are unfeasible, I'm afraid.

... and Rob Reiner looked disgusted when Obama spoke. :1orglaugh

 

[titsrock]

Friday...I will reluctantly vote for Billary, but the clear better option is Obama (now that JE is gone).

Obama will pull troops out of Iraq faster then Billary will. It was JE who wanted to leave reserves in Kuwait and other "quick strike" places. I didn't fully agree with that position, btw, but it was certainly a move in the correct direction.

Why would Obama campaign on "I was against the wars from the beginning" and NOT pull troops out or drag his feet? :dunno:

I think you need to be reminded of the 18 "ethics" scandals that happened under Bill Clinton's pres....I'm talking about "Filegate," "Lincoln Bedroom Gate," "Travelgate," etc. The Clintons were wrapped up in all sorts of gray-area smarmy "******" of privilege in this kind of manner. Clinton got railroaded by the Repubs, his impeachment is nothing more then a national embarassment today, given W.'s reckless, crazy presidency. If ever there was a president fit for symbolic impeachment it's W.

My worry with Billary is that her presidency will be a pander to "her" special interest friends and I worry that she'll make headstrong judgments that will turn out bad because of her short-fuse temper...She has about as much "experience" as Obama, so her "35 yrs of experience" claim is just misleading rhetoric. Obama has more "practical" work experience....fwiw.

You should rethink Obama, imo.


Negator---your little Iraq/n graphic is only pertinent if McCain or Mitt win the presidency...

 

[ninetysixcavy]

Friday...I will reluctantly vote for Billary, but the clear better option is Obama (now that JE is gone).

Obama will pull troops out of Iraq faster then Billary will. It was JE who wanted to leave reserves in Kuwait and other "quick strike" places. I didn't fully agree with that position, btw, but it was certainly a move in the correct direction.

Why would Obama campaign on "I was against the wars from the beginning" and NOT pull troops out or drag his feet? :dunno:

I think you need to be reminded of the 18 "ethics" scandals that happened under Bill Clinton's pres....I'm talking about "Filegate," "Lincoln Bedroom Gate," "Travelgate," etc. The Clintons were wrapped up in all sorts of gray-area smarmy "******" of privilege in this kind of manner. Clinton got railroaded by the Repubs, his impeachment is nothing more then a national embarassment today, given W.'s reckless, crazy presidency. If ever there was a president fit for symbolic impeachment it's W.

My worry with Billary is that her presidency will be a pander to "her" special interest friends and I worry that she'll make headstrong judgments that will turn out bad because of her short-fuse temper...She has about as much "experience" as Obama, so her "35 yrs of experience" claim is just misleading rhetoric. Obama has more "practical" work experience....fwiw.

You should rethink Obama, imo.

I don't understand why people vote for individuals who we are presented as options. Premium Link Upgrade <--- Can't you see the contradiction in that?

Negator---your little Iraq/n graphic is only pertinent if McCain or Mitt win the presidency...

You really think we're not going to have a conflict with Iran? Hell, if the liberals gaurantee we will stop harrasing this sovereign nation, even I'd consider voting for the communists. I just don't believe it. I hope all you young blokes on here are ready to be drafted, because it's only a matter of time, I assure you.

 

[negator]

Negator---your little Iraq/n graphic is only pertinent if McCain or Mitt win the presidency...

there is no steering wheel on this train.

 

[titsrock]

You really think we're not going to have a conflict with Iran? Hell, if the liberals gaurantee we will stop harrasing this sovereign nation, even I'd consider voting for the communists. I just don't believe it. I hope all you young blokes on here are ready to be drafted, because it's only a matter of time, I assure you.

Read. My. Lips. No Dem President will go to war with Iran. It's not possible. We don't have the money and the troops to do it. Iran won't invade Iraq after we leave either. The Arab nations are too ***** on oil profits to do anything but keep the status quo...that's the basic reason. Saddam had the most "imposing" standing Army in the Middle East. How will Iran defend herself from the U.S.? We've already seen how effective their "Navy" is....Hint: Boo!

 

[bodie54]

I'm going to pretty much agree with titsrock: If McCain gets the republican nomination I think Obama's chances of beating him are better than Hilary's.

 

[Eric Lindros]

Barack Obama

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