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Obama an embarrassment on bowling lanes
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"But Obama showed he cannot be the president after rolling a pathetic 37 game.
Yes, that's right ... 37. When my 13-year-old *** was 4, he averaged 89 for an entire season.
And to think Obama was visiting a bowling center lobbying for votes. It can only hurt his chances.
Obama's ineptitude came on a campaign stop in Altoona, Pa. His excuse was that he hasn't bowled since the 1970s. How can we vote for a president who hasn't participated in the nation's No. 1 participatory sport for that long?
"My economic plan is better than my bowling," numerous media accounts claim he said. The response from a cynical man in the crowd was, "It has to be."
Not important but kinda funny.A "37" score lol, most of them must have been gutter balls lol.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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"But Obama showed he cannot be the president after rolling a pathetic 37 game.
Yes, that's right ... 37. When my 13-year-old *** was 4, he averaged 89 for an entire season.
And to think Obama was visiting a bowling center lobbying for votes. It can only hurt his chances.
Obama's ineptitude came on a campaign stop in Altoona, Pa. His excuse was that he hasn't bowled since the 1970s. How can we vote for a president who hasn't participated in the nation's No. 1 participatory sport for that long?
"My economic plan is better than my bowling," numerous media accounts claim he said. The response from a cynical man in the crowd was, "It has to be."
Not important but kinda funny.A "37" score lol, most of them must have been gutter balls lol.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Friday - as I understand it the full quotation includes additional content (where you made a ... break) that seems important lest the rest be taken out of context.
The full quote, as I've seen it reported:
"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
Your edited quote makes it sound like he could be taking issue with small town folks in Pennsylvania and the midwest. In the full quote it sounds like he's taking issue with the failed promises of previous administrations. At least it does to me :dunno:
Fair enough and like I said he has a point I think.But to tell them they "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," will probably not be recieved well by people who see themselves in that description.Yeah I think he is basically calling them ignorant rubes,which may be fair but that won't help to get their votes.
As his preacher incident showed,telling the truth is not always the the way to gain political support.
I don't think he's basically calling them ignorant rubes, and I don't like that Hilary's trying to paint it that way while issuing stale platitudes as a counter. But I agree with the rest of what you wrote. Kind of amazing considering how everybody complains about every politician being dishonest, yet when we get one that actually addresses some unpleasant truths it undercuts his chances of being elected. That's a pretty nasty catch-22.
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This is what Fox News was raving about a "bad slip" by Obama this morning...
I agree with bodie (Sheesh! I thought his comments was on par with "9/11 is a good day to bury bad news")
This is what Fox News was raving about a "bad slip" by Obama this morning...
I agree with bodie (Sheesh! I thought his comments was on par with "9/11 is a good day to bury bad news")
Its not just right wing Fox that thinks it was bad for Obama and a story.Here is the latest on it.
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Obama tried to quell the furor Saturday, explaining his remarks while also conceding he had chosen his words poorly.
"If I worded things in a way that made people offended, I deeply regret that," Obama said in an interview with the Winston-Salem (N.C.) Journal.
He knows he stepped in it and while I agree with him basically as I said earlier folks who see themselves in that description will not take kindly to such remarks.
To me the worst part of this is that his nomination if he does get it will almost assurdly mean a President McCain. White independants and moderates will not be voting for a black who thinks the people who beleive in *** rights and god are just clinging to that out of bitterness.Not to mention that he belonged to a church that told those same voters that america is an evil racist place ,Obama can try to distance himself all he wants from the the Rev. Wright but it will stick and be an issue for many.
I really am sorry its not John Edwards who got the nomination as while he like anyone else is not perfect he did not have the baggage that both Obama and Hillary have.And all this may very well be an historic moment in the history of politics in the US.Especially if Obama is the nominee which appears still to be likely.If even in spite of anger over the war,the economy etc. McCain is elected and that is seen as being even more of a rejection of Obama then being any satisfaction with McCain it will expose the deep racial divide that still exists in america.This may be good to give exposure to but will be very painfull and divisive also for the country.It may be viewed that if Obama had been white he would have won easily and that the only reason he lost was his race.
Every word Obama says will be closely watched by both Clinton and McCain.
But you know how women are, they are "bitter". Mrs. Hillary Clinton is so bitter and this is the first time in 21 years since she burst in the political arena to tell Hill Billy Clinton to "shut up" about the Bosnia trip.
The problem is Obama thinks he has to be nice, kind, and gentle and always give the plate to the Clintons.
Obama has to fight back and choose his words carefully.
Am I bitter about the government, the economy, the money crunch? Absolutely, but don't let your opponents use "bitter" word to ****** you.
I have watched hours and hours of speeches and I understand how Mrs. Clinton always directly her speech back to the "American people", "the voters". And she always try to bring the "American" people up. In the California debate, Mrs. Clinton stated her hardship is nothing compared with everyday American have to endure. She did score points on that to re-direct the questions back to the American people. Instead Obama answered how he was grew up in a single ****** home. I do think Mrs. Hillary Clinton is very abrasive, abusive and oppressive, ******, and very "bitter" person. She has no moral. She lies. She blocked all her emotion even when her husband was f..king Monica downstairs in the White House for 8 times !! ( not one time but 8 times present in the White House. What is sicko, psycho, wacho women. It is Mrs. Hillary "Bottom" Clinton that is bitter ! And it is Billary Clinton that is a fool !Obama kept his mouth shut when Bill Clinton brought the Bosnia trip back to the media and never uttered a word! What a fool.
To be a black man to run the Presidential campaign is tough. You want to be nice, presidential, and try not to ****** your opponent. Obama, come on !
But you know how women are, they are "bitter". Mrs. Hillary Clinton is so bitter and this is the first time in 21 years since she burst in the political arena to tell Hill Billy Clinton to "shut up" about the Bosnia trip.
The problem is Obama thinks he has to be nice, kind, and gentle and always give the plate to the Clintons.
Obama has to fight back and choose his words carefully.
Am I bitter about the government, the economy, the money crunch? Absolutely, but don't let your opponents use "bitter" word to ****** you.
I have watched hours and hours of speeches and I understand how Mrs. Clinton always directly her speech back to the "American people", "the voters". And she always try to bring the "American" people up. In the California debate, Mrs. Clinton stated her hardship is nothing compared with everyday American have to endure. She did score points on that to re-direct the questions back to the American people. Instead Obama answered how he was grew up in a single ****** home. I do think Mrs. Hillary Clinton is very abrasive, abusive and oppressive, ******, and very "bitter" person. She has no moral. She lies. She blocked all her emotion even when her husband was f..king Monica downstairs in the White House for 8 times !! ( not one time but 8 times present in the White House. What is sicko, psycho, wacho women. It is Mrs. Hillary "Bottom" Clinton that is bitter ! And it is Billary Clinton that is a fool !Obama kept his mouth shut when Bill Clinton brought the Bosnia trip back to the media and never uttered a word! What a fool.
To be a black man to run the Presidential campaign is tough. You want to be nice, presidential, and try not to ****** your opponent. Obama, come on !
In any other election year...the candidate who is "hanging on by a thread" like Hillary is now, would've conceded by now and the political party would've united around the leader. Hillary hasn't done that. This is special year. We have 2 candidates who could be "barrier-breakers." I believe Hillary believes she's "entitled" to be the Dem nom because she's "been around" the WH longer than Obama has, she's older than he is...etc. She has no money to continue to fight and is only hoping for an Obama "blunder," like this one, to "keep her in it."
America is a "class" country. Karl Marx said basically history was nothing but a series of class struggles. America has "4" classes--The Wealthy, the Middle Class, the Working Class and the "underclass/poor" (which are the undocumented also).
I believe Bodie's interpretation of Obama's "bitter" comment is correct. I do think Friday is right that this could be a major blunder now because the Clinton's are trotting out anyone and everyone to make speeches about the comment and trying to spin it into something much more than what it was.
The other thing is that the Working Class has been used and ****** by Bill and Hillary for years...and any union member or blue-collar worker should think twice about supporting Hillary....
America is a "class" country. Karl Marx said basically history was nothing but a series of class struggles. America has "4" classes--The Wealthy, the Middle Class, the Working Class and the "underclass/poor" (which are the undocumented also).
I believe Bodie's interpretation of Obama's "bitter" comment is correct. I do think Friday is right that this could be a major blunder now because the Clinton's are trotting out anyone and everyone to make speeches about the comment and trying to spin it into something much more than what it was.
The other thing is that the Working Class has been used and ****** by Bill and Hillary for years...and any union member or blue-collar worker should think twice about supporting Hillary....
Obama an embarrassment on bowling lanes
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"But Obama showed he cannot be the president after rolling a pathetic 37 game.
Yes, that's right ... 37. When my 13-year-old *** was 4, he averaged 89 for an entire season.
And to think Obama was visiting a bowling center lobbying for votes. It can only hurt his chances.
Obama's ineptitude came on a campaign stop in Altoona, Pa. His excuse was that he hasn't bowled since the 1970s. How can we vote for a president who hasn't participated in the nation's No. 1 participatory sport for that long?
Mrs. Clinton actually went to bowling on National T.V. She did much poor than Sen. Obama. She actually said there "is" a bowling alley at the White House but she has not used it.
Her bowling skills was so poor she threw the bowling ball into the gutter and only knocked off one pin.
You want proof. I give you the link. Obama can kick HRC in basketball !
We must have the fact based on true video on National T.V, and the national press corp. I am sick and tired of HRC. She is FOR HERSELF NOT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE !
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"But Obama showed he cannot be the president after rolling a pathetic 37 game.
Yes, that's right ... 37. When my 13-year-old *** was 4, he averaged 89 for an entire season.
And to think Obama was visiting a bowling center lobbying for votes. It can only hurt his chances.
Obama's ineptitude came on a campaign stop in Altoona, Pa. His excuse was that he hasn't bowled since the 1970s. How can we vote for a president who hasn't participated in the nation's No. 1 participatory sport for that long?
Mrs. Clinton actually went to bowling on National T.V. She did much poor than Sen. Obama. She actually said there "is" a bowling alley at the White House but she has not used it.
Her bowling skills was so poor she threw the bowling ball into the gutter and only knocked off one pin.
You want proof. I give you the link. Obama can kick HRC in basketball !
We must have the fact based on true video on National T.V, and the national press corp. I am sick and tired of HRC. She is FOR HERSELF NOT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE !
If HRC kept her word in a bowling match, she will lose the nomination.
See for yourself Clinton missed all 10 pins in Ellen show !
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America has "4" classes.
The Weathy are the CEO, President of the companies and the senior V.P making millions and have blond secretaries. They live in million dollars home !
The Middle Class are the managers, section mangers, operational managers in my company. They make 80,000 dollars to 120,000 dollars. And they have nice home, retirement benefits and pension.
The working classes are "me", the blue-collar workers, Teamsters workers, losing jobs to the Mexicans and makes 22-24 dollars (working for GM, Ford as union members) Are we bitter? Yes , the working class of America is bitter. We have to work overtime, we have to pay rent, mortgage, drive a used car and bring lunches to work !
We, the working class in N. America are bitter. What is wrong to be bitter?
The poor are the single ******* on welfare living in government housing.
WE THE WORKING CLASS HAS NOTHING WRONG BUT ARE VERY BITTER.
WHY. Because the company wants to screw us every four years for pay raise, medical benefits, pensions, working conditions. We are the working class and we have the right to be bitter. Get lost HRC !
The 1.3 million Teamsters is rolling out trucks across Pennsylvannia against the Clintons. We were betrayed by the Clintons in 1993 and lost millions of jobs. :spump:
This coming election, especially since our economy is in the deepest shitter since the Great Depression, is going to become a WAR BETWEEN MAIN STREET USA and WALL STREET USA.
Main Street and Wall Street both need to be operating "well" for our economy to be "humming along" and everyone to be happy.
It is not the case today...for a variety of reasons--the Wars in the Middle East, the Mortgage/Credit Meltdowns are the big reasons.
The way to turn our economy around the quickest is for Corporate America to return to an inward America focus...and put the breaks on "globalization"...we need entrepreneurs to use Wall Street money to create companies that will employ Middle Class and Working Class people to stimulate our economy. That's what we need.
We also need to grow our own trades people with important skills that they can earn a good living by...we don't need to outsource trade work or hire "cheap" "unskilled" labor...
Main Street and Wall Street both need to be operating "well" for our economy to be "humming along" and everyone to be happy.
It is not the case today...for a variety of reasons--the Wars in the Middle East, the Mortgage/Credit Meltdowns are the big reasons.
The way to turn our economy around the quickest is for Corporate America to return to an inward America focus...and put the breaks on "globalization"...we need entrepreneurs to use Wall Street money to create companies that will employ Middle Class and Working Class people to stimulate our economy. That's what we need.
We also need to grow our own trades people with important skills that they can earn a good living by...we don't need to outsource trade work or hire "cheap" "unskilled" labor...
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If he's on the Ballot, I'll take him over the other three. :thefinger
Too bad Jesse Ventura won't run. I agree with him on almost everything, except Immigration.
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