Been hearing this term alot lately. Is there class warfare against the rich? or has there been class warfare against the middle class?
Class Warfare
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There has been class warfare for a long time. It's not been against the rich, it's been against the poor by the rich. The rich are winning and kicking poorer peoples' asses and screwing everybody over, yet there are people out there that for some reason don't want to see that.
Not only is it happening, the poor are losing,...badly. If the poor are engaging in class warfare against the rich they have a long ways to go to even just get back to the point they were at decades ago.
Not only is it happening, the poor are losing,...badly. If the poor are engaging in class warfare against the rich they have a long ways to go to even just get back to the point they were at decades ago.
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Here's some good advice. Make sure to have enough money so it doesn't matter who's in charge.
I consider flat taxation to be most fair. (and not very typical of socialism)
If the US were to have flat taxation the wealthiest would actually pay more. had the wealthiest been asked to pay a higher tax rate which is the case in many European countries I might agree with them, but that's not the case.
Just my opinion...
If the US were to have flat taxation the wealthiest would actually pay more. had the wealthiest been asked to pay a higher tax rate which is the case in many European countries I might agree with them, but that's not the case.
Just my opinion...
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It's just ignorance and stupidity now. If I won 100 million in the lottery, I'm required to pay taxes on it, what makes them different?
There will always be class warfare, no matter which party is fighting another party. As long as 'modern man' from way back to the genus of Ardipithecus and Paranthropus. And by saying this, the 'rationalizing' of man lead to the evolution of 'class warfare', 'social stratification', or 'social inequality'. In addition to this, the introduction of 'racial' or 'ethnic' based class-warfare only exacerbates the situation; as now the modern 'class warfare' has taken on such a dynamic role on how society is today. A few other factors that some people fail to include when studying the whole class-warfare schema is the fact that inherited traits from their patriarchal or matriarchal lineages will always be a major phenomena in the class warfare 'web'.
Decades? Try 5.6 million years. [See my notes above].
Is there such a 'thing' or 'thought' as too much money? No, as if there was such a 'thing' as 'enough money' then you'll never be happy as you'll always desire more: money, power, prestige, rank, etc...
So you're in a nutshell, you're in favor of a regressive tax-like programme; across all of the spectrum and tax ranges? As a Regressive tax programme deals with the tax rate being 'decreased' as the taxable base increases. and a Progressive Tax programme deals with the tax rate increasing as the taxable base increases. Just so I can get at your whole 'thesis' of this proposal.... Let's hypothetically say the following scheme: "Wingman00" works at the US Steel Mill in PA, he makes $50,000 USD annually; and "CSkylar86" is a CEO of a major international corporation (i.e. Apple Inc.) and makes $18,000,000 annually. In a regressive tax scheme the taxable for you is: $50,000 and $18,000,000 for me. The tax rate for you is 35% of your income base; and the tax rate for me is 15%. That will mean that you will be taxed $17,500 of your total gross income; while I'll pay $2,700,000. Our net (for you: after taxes incomes are: $32,500/year ($2,708.33/month) for me: $15,300,000/year ($1,275,000/month)).
Or if we do a flat tax, say 20% all across the board. $10,000 in taxes annually for you, and $2,600,000 in taxes for me. Our situations would be very unequal, and will eventually lead to 'class warfare'. It's not a matter of when it'll happen but a matter of why it happened.
I know this is a ton to read, but just some thoughts on what you're saying Wingman00.
I see this as a potential fault for a cataclysmic showdown for 'class warfare'.
I believe the Class warfare argument is horsecrap. I think the most fair would be for everyone to be taxed the same percentage.
How would taxing someone who makes $40,000 at the same rate as someone that makes $40,000,000 be fair?
As for class warfare it's only been in one direction since the founding of human civilization, the rich against the poor.
And as for the middle class, it appears that the post WWII era where a large prosperous middle class existed was a historical anomaly and we'll be returning to the constant that's existed for most of human history, which is a very small wealthy class ruling over an extremely large underclass.
On the middle class by far. The democrats want to give everything to the poor and the republicans want to give everything to the rich. Who gets left out? Yep the middle class.
Think about this, the US is a consumer based economy. The middle class dive this economy because the rich already have everything and the poor can't buy anything. Neither of these classes can drive the economy and yet the democrats and republicans are constantly ignoring the one class that can revivie this economy, the middle class.
Good paying jobs = strong middle class = strong economy.
Am I missing something here?
Think about this, the US is a consumer based economy. The middle class dive this economy because the rich already have everything and the poor can't buy anything. Neither of these classes can drive the economy and yet the democrats and republicans are constantly ignoring the one class that can revivie this economy, the middle class.
Good paying jobs = strong middle class = strong economy.
Am I missing something here?
The overwhelming majority of small businesses, whom the Republicans call the job creators, are one-man operations.According to Small Business Administration statistics, based on 2009 Census data, 21.1 million of the 27 million small businesses in the United States are “non-employer firms,” which have no workers other than the owner. Of those, 18.7 million are “sole proprietors,” 950,000 are partnerships and 1.4 million are corporations
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