circumcised or uncircumcised ?
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maybe all the women you have been with are nice and don't want to be mean by telling you they preferred circumcised
:dunno:
obviously a lot of folks :hatsoff:
The one thing I like about being uncircumcised is that I don't have to use lube, so it's less messy for me.
:nanner: Now that settles it for me.
Why are alot of people who are circumsised protecting their choices to the point that they're implying that we're freaky and no women will go near us if we're uncircumsised?
A little harsh isn't it?
excellent post Eva! I believe that is just the reason why nature created the foreskin. maybe not for jerking of, but sill.
when you cut of that extra skin, there's much less room for movement.
and you who says uncircumcised is unhygienic, how often do you was your dicks? and how would you know?
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interesting posts and thought provoking, good banter going there folks :hatsoff:
so this is a long post, sorry, but i'm just going to speak on personal experience cos i really don't think there's just a one size fits all answer.
oddly enough it was the uncircumcised part of me that got me really into a healthy lifestyle. i got a yeast infection once and it was just a nightmare cos the ************ didnt beat it. it kept recurring and the foreskin was just a mega incubator making it worse. turns out it was my diet, lots of carbs (turns to sugar), lots of fruits, fruit drinks, sodas etc. too many sugars were causing an imbalance in chemical makeup and the sugars passing through the ***** would incubate with the yeast inside the foreskin. male yeast infections are more common in uncircumcised men because of this. most male yeast infections were usually transmitted from sex. in my case it wasnt sex it was the diet, but the foreskin amplifying by giving the yeast ideal living conditions.
it sounds simple, just pull back the foreskin and wash it....but the rash also induced phimosis which is a tightening of the foreskin which makes it very very very (there arent enough very's to emphasize this) painful. and take into account how many times a day you pee then well, it sucked and pulling back the foreskin was very far removed from being a simple procedure because of that pain, not to mention the occasional stretching would sometimes break the skin and pain would be excruciating. this all happened when i was freaking 17, and my diet was typical of most 17 year olds.
i changed the diet, cut out pastas, breads, sugars etc. the yeast infection has never recurred thank god, but as i said, i've been following a better diet for 11 years now. i probably over do it on the hygiene as well now, though it happened over a decade ago the annoyance of that 2 months in my life is enough to keep me motivated. I wash frequently under the foreskin daily. maybe overkill but i havn't heard of anyone dying from being too hygenic and the alternative is less than pleasant.
i have a friend who was uncut but he developed phimosis as well, to the point where it was nearly impossible to pee and sex was out of the question as it was too painful. there's two types of phimosis, he had the one that really required a circumcision. at age mid twenties no less and i remember it was anything but pleasant for him cos he was in pain and couldnt have sex for a while, however eventually he healed and has a healthy sex life.
i'm still uncut, havnt had any problems since my issue. but the thing is, i have a great sex life and my friend who had the circumcision mid 20's has a great sex life as well now and a rather hot gf. so in two cases one circumsized one uncircumsized, each person seems to be happy with thier performance with a female and the females don't seem to be bitching about it either way. if a woman is bitching to you about the fact that your are or are'nt circumcised, then my opinion is that its time to start looking for another woman.
is it **********? well in my friend's case it made for a better quality of life, being able to pee easily and have sex certainly has its rewards. in my case the healthy lifestyle has paid off in may different ways including the fact that i havn't got a yeast infection in 11 years.
so if you're having any issues physically go see your urologist or general doctor, if you're having issues mentally about it then seriously, circumcised or uncircumsized you can still please a woman. if anyone tells you that you can't, find out what medical school they went to and avoid any doctor that graduated there.
sorry so long, but i've seen this issue on other social fronts and most of the people arguing either side have thier minds made up and tend to disregard a lot of facts. again, there's no cookie-cutter answer. it's a personal issue between you and your penis, he's been good to you, so be good back to him and make the right decision for you both. if you're one of the ones who was circumsized as a baby then trust me, you're fine and nothings wrong with you, but you knew that already, right?
the end. thank you for reading my novel
so this is a long post, sorry, but i'm just going to speak on personal experience cos i really don't think there's just a one size fits all answer.
oddly enough it was the uncircumcised part of me that got me really into a healthy lifestyle. i got a yeast infection once and it was just a nightmare cos the ************ didnt beat it. it kept recurring and the foreskin was just a mega incubator making it worse. turns out it was my diet, lots of carbs (turns to sugar), lots of fruits, fruit drinks, sodas etc. too many sugars were causing an imbalance in chemical makeup and the sugars passing through the ***** would incubate with the yeast inside the foreskin. male yeast infections are more common in uncircumcised men because of this. most male yeast infections were usually transmitted from sex. in my case it wasnt sex it was the diet, but the foreskin amplifying by giving the yeast ideal living conditions.
it sounds simple, just pull back the foreskin and wash it....but the rash also induced phimosis which is a tightening of the foreskin which makes it very very very (there arent enough very's to emphasize this) painful. and take into account how many times a day you pee then well, it sucked and pulling back the foreskin was very far removed from being a simple procedure because of that pain, not to mention the occasional stretching would sometimes break the skin and pain would be excruciating. this all happened when i was freaking 17, and my diet was typical of most 17 year olds.
i changed the diet, cut out pastas, breads, sugars etc. the yeast infection has never recurred thank god, but as i said, i've been following a better diet for 11 years now. i probably over do it on the hygiene as well now, though it happened over a decade ago the annoyance of that 2 months in my life is enough to keep me motivated. I wash frequently under the foreskin daily. maybe overkill but i havn't heard of anyone dying from being too hygenic and the alternative is less than pleasant.
i have a friend who was uncut but he developed phimosis as well, to the point where it was nearly impossible to pee and sex was out of the question as it was too painful. there's two types of phimosis, he had the one that really required a circumcision. at age mid twenties no less and i remember it was anything but pleasant for him cos he was in pain and couldnt have sex for a while, however eventually he healed and has a healthy sex life.
i'm still uncut, havnt had any problems since my issue. but the thing is, i have a great sex life and my friend who had the circumcision mid 20's has a great sex life as well now and a rather hot gf. so in two cases one circumsized one uncircumsized, each person seems to be happy with thier performance with a female and the females don't seem to be bitching about it either way. if a woman is bitching to you about the fact that your are or are'nt circumcised, then my opinion is that its time to start looking for another woman.
is it **********? well in my friend's case it made for a better quality of life, being able to pee easily and have sex certainly has its rewards. in my case the healthy lifestyle has paid off in may different ways including the fact that i havn't got a yeast infection in 11 years.
so if you're having any issues physically go see your urologist or general doctor, if you're having issues mentally about it then seriously, circumcised or uncircumsized you can still please a woman. if anyone tells you that you can't, find out what medical school they went to and avoid any doctor that graduated there.
sorry so long, but i've seen this issue on other social fronts and most of the people arguing either side have thier minds made up and tend to disregard a lot of facts. again, there's no cookie-cutter answer. it's a personal issue between you and your penis, he's been good to you, so be good back to him and make the right decision for you both. if you're one of the ones who was circumsized as a baby then trust me, you're fine and nothings wrong with you, but you knew that already, right?
the end. thank you for reading my novel
I think allot of people are misunderstanding the hygienic point about being uncircumcised. It's less about your cleanliness habits and more about suceptibility to infection.
Being uncut means you are naturally far more susceptible to yeast infections and VDs. Yeast is naturally occurring in the human body and in proper amounts it's normal and healthy. It's normally associated with infections in the vagina (since we're using terms like penis and glans in this thread) but it can grow to the point of infection where excessive moisture allows it to breed. The mouth (thrush), feet (athlete's feet), the intestines, the vagina and uncircumcised penises.
There many reasons yeast can grow to the point of infection that don't have much to do with uncleanliness. Since it needs areas where excessive moisture can collect to allow it to breed in the first place, circumcised penises present no such breeding opportunity.
In terms of VDs....simply put most VDs have to get into the body. The first line of defense is the skin and most areas of the body are covered in skin thick enough to prevent diseases and viruses from just walking in. The skin on the hands and feet of men are most thickest the skin in the mouth and on the penis is the least thickest (circumcised or not). In uncut cases it is several times thinner. Making the uncut penis several times more susceptible to diseases and viruses just walking in..including VDs.
Uncut penises are objectively less sanitary all things being equal because any (in this case) bacteria that comes in contact with it instantly has a natural breeding ground.:2 cents:
Now, don't shoot the messenger.
They really aren't less sanitary as you make out than circumsised, yeh you make a good point about cleanliness but like i said before it is very very simple to clean and DRY it properly. If you can't manage that it's your fault if you get VD not the fact you are uncircumsised, i clean it every day with neutral soap wash it all off and dry it, there is no moisture build up and i never get any smegma or "Bell cheese" as a previous poster crudely called it.
Its based more on personal hygiene (including drying yourself).
cocks that are circumsized look hotter
Really funny thread. For the people who claim to have not seen uncut men in porn should watch Manuel Ferrara, Steve Holmes or pretty much most of the European men in vids. I was circumsized at birth, so I had no choice in the matter and would not know the difference. Sometimes I wonder about having foreskin, and if it would bring any different experience in sexual activities.
I have a high chance of getting a yeast infection or UTI too if I don't properly clean myself. Everyone does. Its like that with every part of the body, not just the penis. Someone doesn't upkeep their skin, they get skin problems. Someone doesn't brush and floss, they get cavities.
I'm sorry, but I am married to a guy who is uncut, and he's NEVER had a problem either with getting ill, or keeping it clean. It IS as simple as just pulling back the foreskin and washing. You're only more "susceptible" to any kind of infection or nastiness if you aren't cleaning yourself and taking care of your body.
These kind of threads irritate me...the men who (and I'm not referring to you Hot Mega) make it sound like uncut penises are ugly and not worth being with...seriously do you realize if you took a trip to Europe and went to ***** with a girl there, she'd think YOUR cock was fucked up looking? Overseas, very few men are cut!!! I've encountered so many men who have the same attitude of "uncut dicks are nasty looking"...and its just plain stupid...I'm going to re-iterate my point: cocks are cocks. They come in all shapes and sizes. They all look different. And they're all awsome....as long as they're not attatched to a judgemental guy who seems to have a phobia of an extra flap of skin.
/end rant.
Maybe simply just to add *fuel* to the fire of the discussion....but...
Has anyone looked at nude sculptures from antiquity to see if the statues have cut or uncut penises? That might add a layer to the aesthetic discussion...
I'm cut. I like being cut. I do think that uncut cocks look strange, but not to the point that it would *ruin* the viewing experience for me. Frankly I wish that foreskin piece could somehow be "re-attached" somehow for LENGTH and GIRTH purposes...wouldnt it be cool if the foreskin could become the "male implant" somehow...
Has anyone looked at nude sculptures from antiquity to see if the statues have cut or uncut penises? That might add a layer to the aesthetic discussion...
I'm cut. I like being cut. I do think that uncut cocks look strange, but not to the point that it would *ruin* the viewing experience for me. Frankly I wish that foreskin piece could somehow be "re-attached" somehow for LENGTH and GIRTH purposes...wouldnt it be cool if the foreskin could become the "male implant" somehow...
Sorry, that's simply not the truth. It's not merely a case of not cleaning yourself properly that can cause yeast infections in women. Overgrowth of yeast is combated by good bacteria in the body...ironically most yeast infections in women occur as a result of over douching and removing too much good bacteria from the vagina. Antibiotics can encourage yeast infections and an imbalance of vaginal alkalinity can too. But ALL of these cases are made possible by one consistent circumstance which is the environment necessary for it to grow. That circumstance does not exist with the cut men.
If two men have sex with two different women both infected with the same disease or virus in their vagina, all things being equal except for circumcision..it is just a physiological fact that the uncut man stands the greater risk of becoming infected. EVEN IF he pulls his penis out after every stroke and wiped it clean.
Being uncut means you have to (or should) be more diligent in your hygiene. For example, a cut man can get out the shower and towel normally as any remaining moisture on his penis would air dry like the rest of his body. An uncut man would be wise to pay particular attention cleaning and drying because the foreskin wouldn't allow for natural air drying.
Let me get this straight. Are all guys born uncircumsized? Cause I don't have that nasty looking skin going over my "head" and I just assumed that was the way I was born. :dunno:
That's exactly true. In the overwhelming majority of cases men are born with enough foreskin to cover the entire head (glans penis). Usually it's remove at birth for religious or hygienic reasons. That isn't to say all men normally have it removed but in the case in which it's remove it is for religious or hygienic reasons. It's been suggested in the past that it was a practice popularize to encourage chastity (in religious cases) by making the penis less sensitive but subsequent research has demonstrated that it additionally has proven to make men less susceptible to infection.
Umm...what are you trying to say? That I'm right? Because I stated that if you don't properly take care of your body, that you're more susceptible to infection or illness if you don't properly take care of your body. Of course I know what causes yeast infections in women - its why I don't douche or use scented soaps or perfumes down there. Thats why I said what I said. Yes cut men don't have the bits of anatomy that cause bacteria to grow and infest and cause infection. But if a guy knows how to take care of his junk, he won't have anything to worry about!!! And sorry, don't throw the "a guy can get an infection from a womans snatch if she's infected" thing at me - EVERY man can get an infection or STD...but both wouldn't if they TOOK CARE OF THEIR JUNK AND WRAPPED THAT FUCKER UP! lol. YES uncut men have a higher risk, I've never once said they don't. But I maintain that if they know their body, and care for it accordingly...they won't have any issues. Otherwise, uncut guys all over the world would have yeast infections all the time! Its only the lazy, uneducated guys who ever have a problem. If a boy is taught how to care for his penis, thats all he needs! My hubby had a friend in highschool who never ONCE pulled back his foreskin to wash and found out when he went to have sex that he physically couldn't pull it back because all of the bacteria and nastiness that formed under it essentially glued the foreskin to the penis. Prime example of a man not caring for his tools.
Sheesh. So sick of this thread. But yet I keep returning....
Does getting a yeast infection from antibiotics attacking probiotics in your body count as not taking care of yourself hygienically?? If you've convinced yourself that it's only "lazy, uneducated" men (and women I guess) that are susceptible then there not much else to discuss. I just don't know how you could deduce that you're right out of what I said though...but okay.
I just wish people could discuss things without taking it personal and getting self conscious (not saying you are per se) but I guess that's invariably going to happen when men and our dicks are the topic.
I just read your last statement about the story your hubby told you.....He didn't actually tell you a story like that did he???
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