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Church Plans Quran-Burning Event

The Bible is meant to be a guide on how you're supposed to try to live your life but ultimately you have free will. It has the basic laws and life lessons.

What you're talking about is an extremist type of Christian, someone who lives by every single word in the Bible. Not all Christians are like that and the ones that are, are usually the ones who have no idea what they've actually read.

This right here bro. This is what i try to tell my bible thumper brother and his wife all the time...but since they take every word in the bible literally, and are so close hearted when you try to debate with them, it not worth your time. They beleive they have the "so called holy ghost" and speaking in tongues, which i find funny time and time again. LOL
 

roronoa3000

Banned
I don't, personally. But, if someone believes in God, then they should believe that everything contained within in The Bible, as fantastical as it may seem, is indeed a fact. If one claims to believe in the Christian God, but does not believe each and every word contained within The Bible as if it were an undeniable and indisputable fact, then they are hypocrite and a liar.

Wrong.

....and Jonah was in a whale which is not a fish but a mammal.
 

Vlad The Impaler

Power Slave
There are some willfully ignorant mother fuckers in this thread. By willfully ignorant, I mean you know your being stupid but you don't care, it's how you get your rocks off. Being retarded and getting slapped on the back by the other retards for a job, their feeble minds perceive as, well done.
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HAHAHAHA, as a Christian, God commands you via The Ten Commandments. :rolleyes:



Sooooo, you have no rebuttal to what I'm saying? Not surprising.



I don't, personally. But, if someone believes in God, then they should believe that everything contained within in The Bible, as fantastical as it may seem, is indeed a fact. If one claims to believe in the Christian God, but does not believe each and every word contained within The Bible as if it were an undeniable and indisputable fact, then they are hypocrite and a liar.



What point are you making? I thought your original point was that no man, Christian or not, should just allow themselves to be murdered - which I then rebutted. So, if your point is something different, then please inform me.

:dunno:



Key word: translation.

Christianity, as many religions are, is based off text that was scribed thousands of years ago. And, instead of following the original text, people - not God, but people - have translated and interpreted those texts in order to fit the convenience of their lives.




You're so desperate it's embarrassing.:facepalm:
 
There are some willfully ignorant mother fuckers in this thread. By willfully ignorant, I mean you know your being stupid but you don't care, it's how you get your rocks off. Being retarded and getting slapped on the back by the other retards for a job, their feeble minds perceive as, well done.
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The feeling is mutual, my friend.
 

larss

I'm watching some specialist videos
Key word: translation.

Christianity, as many religions are, is based off text that was scribed thousands of years ago. And, instead of following the original text, people - not God, but people - have translated and interpreted those texts in order to fit the convenience of their lives.

The New International Version was re-translated from the most best available Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts. So, there will be translation issues, but in this case, I think that it is pretty clear that murder is the correct word.

Who cares about the new version? What's important is the original.
In the original version of the bible Jesus said "bring the unbeliver unto me that I may strangle him"

How do you know what it said in the "original"? Where is this version?

Wrong.

....and Jonah was in a whale which is not a fish but a mammal.

Wrong - Jonah verse 1 chapter 17
"But the Lord provided a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was inside the fish three days and three nights"
 
Uh...if the ENTIRE holy text ISN'T dogma and followed to the 'T', try ripping out the pages you don't agree with




See, how much of 'the book' you end up with
 
Fuck the Quran. I'd blow my load in it's pages, set it on fire, then piss out the flames. The double standard is fucking rediculous. Muslims could shit on everyone's beliefs and there's no complaints. Bibles can get burned, statues of Christ and Mary can be pissed on and no one would give a rats ass. But draw a cartoon of Muhammed and get killed and have your business burned down.

Fuck Muslims, Fuck Muhammed, Fuck the Quran, Fuck the Middle East.

We should nuke their asses and turn the whole damn area into a sheet of glass. Then maybe put a Walmart there or something else useful.

Yes, I am TheGreatSatan and proud of it.
 
Fuck the Quran. I'd blow my load in it's pages, set it on fire, then piss out the flames. The double standard is fucking rediculous. Muslims could shit on everyone's beliefs and there's no complaints. Bibles can get burned, statues of Christ and Mary can be pissed on and no one would give a rats ass. But draw a cartoon of Muhammed and get killed and have your business burned down.

Fuck Muslims, Fuck Muhammed, Fuck the Quran, Fuck the Middle East.

We should nuke their asses and turn the whole damn area into a sheet of glass. Then maybe put a Walmart there or something else useful.

Yes, I am TheGreatSatan and proud of it.





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Heard on the news tonight he has called it off.He really had looked for last few days in TV appearances to be a man in search of an exit from what he had started.But he had his 15 minutes of fame and thats what this probably always was about.
 

Vlad The Impaler

Power Slave
The feeling is mutual, my friend.

The difference is I'm not ignorant, willfully or otherwise. I know it, you know it and everyone here knows it. You don't see me purposefully ignoring parts of someones post just to get a half-assed barely thought out point across so I can get a that-a-boy from my buddies.

You never catch me talking shit about another member's country, whether I hate that country or not. And the ME doesn't count because 1) I've never heard from anyone on here who says they're from there and 2) we're at war with certain factions from that part of the world and we have been for decades.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
That's not necessarily true. I believe in the Christian God myself, but I am not a Christian. I left the religion over 10 years ago because I got fed up with and tired of the hypocrisy of organized religion.

I classify myself as a Spiritualist because I believe in spirituality. I don't consider the Bible as undeniable and indisputable fact. In fact I say that the Bible is made up of three things. 1. Some of it actually happened. 2. Some of it has been greatly exaggerated. 3. Some of it were actually popular camp fire stories of the times and the church included them because of their popularity.

The Bible is meant to be a guide on how you're supposed to try to live your life but ultimately you have free will. It has the basic laws and life lessons.

What you're talking about is an extremist type of Christian, someone who lives by every single word in the Bible. Not all Christians are like that and the ones that are, are usually the ones who have no idea what they've actually read.

The Ten Commandments, the rules of life, are direct orders from God Himself (according to Christianity). I don't know how a believer in the Christian God can claim otherwise or act as if people aren't supposed to listen to The Word of God directly - rather, that they are supposed to use His words and orders as nothing more than a "guide".

Wrong.

....and Jonah was in a whale which is not a fish but a mammal.

That's funny, because The Bible says "great fish". But, I guess us human beings decided to put our own translation on The Bible and go with "whale" instead, huh?

Ahh, religion at it's finest. The book says one thing, we read it and interpret it as another.

You're so desperate it's embarrassing.:facepalm:

Desperate? You mean "right on the money", right? If not, I'll just do what you Christians do and reword everything, put my own personal spin on it and translate your words into my own, just so I can feel better about myself.

:rolleyes:

The New International Version was re-translated from the most best available Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts. So, there will be translation issues, but in this case, I think that it is pretty clear that murder is the correct word.

Ok, let's say that the true word really IS "murder" and not "kill". Did the word "murder" exist in the year 0? If so, why was the translation incorrect when The Bible was first translated? If the word "murder" existed when The Bible was written, why the long term confusion?
 
That's not necessarily true. I believe in the Christian God myself, but I am not a Christian. I left the religion over 10 years ago because I got fed up with and tired of the hypocrisy of organized religion.

I classify myself as a Spiritualist because I believe in spirituality. I don't consider the Bible as undeniable and indisputable fact. In fact I say that the Bible is made up of three things. 1. Some of it actually happened. 2. Some of it has been greatly exaggerated. 3. Some of it were actually popular camp fire stories of the times and the church included them because of their popularity.

The Bible is meant to be a guide on how you're supposed to try to live your life but ultimately you have free will. It has the basic laws and life lessons.

What you're talking about is an extremist type of Christian, someone who lives by every single word in the Bible. Not all Christians are like that and the ones that are, are usually the ones who have no idea what they've actually read.

Great post.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Heard on the news tonight he has called it off.He really had looked for last few days in TV appearances to be a man in search of an exit from what he had started.But he had his 15 minutes of fame and thats what this probably always was about.

I read on CNN that he was rethinking his cancellation now, HAHAHAHA...

Florida pastor 'rethinking' canceled Quran burning
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/09/florida.quran.burning/index.html?hpt=T1
 
HAHAHAHA, as a Christian, God commands you via The Ten Commandments. :rolleyes:



Sooooo, you have no rebuttal to what I'm saying? Not surprising.



I don't, personally. But, if someone believes in God, then they should believe that everything contained within in The Bible, as fantastical as it may seem, is indeed a fact. If one claims to believe in the Christian God, but does not believe each and every word contained within The Bible as if it were an undeniable and indisputable fact, then they are hypocrite and a liar.



What point are you making? I thought your original point was that no man, Christian or not, should just allow themselves to be murdered - which I then rebutted. So, if your point is something different, then please inform me.

:dunno:



Key word: translation.

Christianity, as many religions are, is based off text that was scribed thousands of years ago. And, instead of following the original text, people - not God, but people - have translated and interpreted those texts in order to fit the convenience of their lives.

Your attributing motive is correct, but we don't know if in that particular case, the translation was changed to kill.

Also, isn't that counter to your point? Seeing that warfare was as much of a fact of life in the time period which the bible was written (and things got even bloodier in the interceding 1700 years or so) wouldn't it behoove them to make it murder then and not now?
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Your attributing motive is correct, but we don't know if in that particular case, the translation was changed to kill.

Also, isn't that counter to your point? Seeing that warfare was as much of a fact of life in the time period which the bible was written (and things got even bloodier in the interceding 1700 years or so) wouldn't it behoove them to make it murder then and not now?

Huh? No...my point isn't what the correct translation or interpretation is.

Everything in The Bible, according to Christianity, was originally The Word of God. Over time, human beings made their own versions of what they thought The Bible should or shouldn't say. The Bible, as we know it today, is nothing like the original text. There have been additions, subtractions, retractions and countless interpretations made by countless numbers of various people over the years.

With that being said, my point is - there shouldn't be an 'interpretation' of The Bible.

If someone believes in the Christian God, they believe that God's story is true. And, if that's the case, then they believe that God directed a select few to transcribe The Bible, telling of His story. So, the original text of The Bible, according to the Christian faith, is what they should be following. Yet, it's not. They follow loosely transcribed, edited and interpreted versions of the original Bible. Which, on a personal note, is hilarious to me, considering that Christians believe in God and the story of God - which clearly states that The Bible is The Word of God - which Christians have turned into The Word of Man.

:dunno:
 
Ahh, religion at it's finest. The book says one thing, we read it and interpret it as another.



Desperate? You mean "right on the money", right? QUOTE]





No you're quite wrong. Right now, you're ranting and sounding rather infantile and being very defensive. Have something to hide?


No matter. You'll do a complete conversion when you know your days are finite and running out.
 
No matter. You'll do a complete conversion when you know your days are finite and running out.
I don't get it

How do you 'know'? Because its all subject, even by your own account, by the believer's "interpretation"?
How do you know you have the right interpretation if you're not
recncilling it against the fundamental text (if all you're doing is cherry-picking bits and pieces of said text)?


Also, what does your belief say about pornography and/or who is that backed up by your supporting text?
 
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