Church Plans Quran-Burning Event

[YMIHERE]

Education and tolerance are no substitution for intellegence, wisdom and age, hope you get a dismal job when/if you graduate...

:flame:

Intelligence, wisdom and age are no substitution for knowledge. Just saying.

 

[Trident1]

Riiiiiiight... You and Vlad told me exactly the same thing, just because im not in the old folks home doesn't mean i'm not educated. You know, you really gain alot of education and tolerance in college, you should try it sometime! That is, when you're not working your dismal job at wherever the hell you work and blaming all your promblems on liberals, mexicans, and muslims.

Don't worry kid, your butt will be in the "old/obsolete" category by age 25.


I went to college, got my degree, and am happily self employed.


I don't blame any of my problems on "liberals, mexicans, and muslims".


Right now my only issue is debating with a 21 year old male who's frontal lobe has yet to develop.

 

[Crazy4theBrat]

I once saw a Muslim guy walking toward me on the street from the opposite direction. Needless to say, I turned and walked away as briskly as possible.

Why? Were you downwind?

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

So, you just do as you wish, even though you believe in God? God commands you to live in a certain manner, but you just choose to do as you wish, as if His commands are nothing more than a guide? As if His direct order is to be interpreted in a way that you can conveniently morph to suit your needs and support your idea of how a person is supposed to live and not God's? You know, the deity you worship? The deity you believe created everything? The heavens, the earth, man, woman, beast? You believe in a God that is powerful enough to literally create everything that has ever existed, but you're not going to listen to Him when He orders you to do something?

You may be a Christian by name, but you are not a Christian by faith.



Like I said, you see what you want and deny the rest. Typical believer.



Umm, GOD says that The Bible needs to be taken literally. It's called "The Word of God" for a reason, HAHAHAHA.



Using factually accurate historic information is invalid, because it's "ancient history". Yet, it's ok to worship a character in a book that's 2,000 years old and you don't find a problem with that?

:dunno:

Does it give you unbridled satisfaction to repeatedly ignore my point with ludicrous replies. I see no need at all to continue to debate this with you. Go read the Apocryphal Text and the Dead Sea Scrolls (you know, the books Constantine wouldn't allow in his Bible) then maybe we'll talk.

 

[sleep]

Intelligence, wisdom and age are no substitution for knowledge. Just saying.

Gee and here I was thinking that if a person was intelligent, wise and got older they would gain more knowledge, how could I have been so wrong!

Knowledge "is" learning and practice isn't it?

Do I want the book smart Doctor that just got out of Medical School or do I want to see the one who has been in practice for 10 years and I've gotten great referals to?

I'll see the Doc that has some practical experience, thank you.

Just saying.

 

[pete rose]

You're only 21 and have a long way to go before you gain wisdom. I used to think exactly like you. You'll change in time.

He has more wisdom than most people I've seen post.

The world was different then. Society has changed.

Then why do you still believe in archaic things like two men in a relationship is a sin and women shouldn't be able to decide what they do to their bodies? Society has changed, man.

 

[Ulysses31]

I once saw a Muslim guy walking toward me on the street from the opposite direction. Needless to say, I turned and walked away as briskly as possible.

You should've killed yourself before he had the chance to blow you up. It's the only way to be sure.

 

[pete rose]

Holy shit, that's my new sig.

 

[Trident1]

He has more wisdom than most people I've seen post.

Then why do you still believe in archaic things like two men in a relationship is a sin and women shouldn't be able to decide what they do to their bodies? Society has changed, man.

I support gay rights and gay marriage. Just because I'm Serb Orthodox doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they believe. I'm a free man.

 

[Bearded_Menace]

Gee and here I was thinking that if a person was intelligent, wise and got older they would gain more knowledge, how could I have been so wrong!

Knowledge "is" learning and practice isn't it?

Do I want the book smart Doctor that just got out of Medical School or do I want to see the one who has been in practice for 10 years and I've gotten great referals to?

I'll see the Doc that has some practical experience, thank you.

Just saying.

Intelligence and wisdom are not the same thing.

 

[busenbust]

Let's wait and see what Beck says

 

[vodkazvictim]

You should've killed yourself before he had the chance to blow you up. It's the only way to be sure.

:clap:

 

[larss]

OOOOOOOOOOOkay.

1) Though Shalt not Kill - WRONG - The translation in the New International Version is "You shall not murder"

2) Word of God - Yes, to an extent. Personally, I see the early part of the bible as more apocryphal. Who, several thousand years ago would have credited the story of the big bang as the start of the universe? As you go through the 6 days of creation, they pretty well match the stages of the creation of this planet given the scientific knowledge that we have now - day should be taken to read as period of time as opposed to 24 hours.

3) The New Testament - This is the most important part of the bible for Christians. A new teaching by God (also the son of God, but as that is the same person...). No longer is it an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, it is turn the other cheek.

The biggest problems in this world right now are caused by people following the eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth mentality, because there is no end to the violence with that logic.

This pastor is starting a fight by lighting the fire. Claiming that he is not starting the fight, one that the Islam extremists WILL respond to, and those extremists do not take the eye for an eye attitude, they take the entire family for a tooth attitude. He is putting lives at risk by this action.

 

[busenbust]

 

[ChefChiTown]

You're failing dude. You thinking is too linear.

That's the one thing about being Christian................freedom to choose your own personal path. No one commands me.

HAHAHAHA, as a Christian, God commands you via The Ten Commandments.

I know history. You're cherry picking and using snippets to prop up your weak argument. Fail.

Sooooo, you have no rebuttal to what I'm saying? Not surprising.

So do you really believe Jonah literally lived inside the belly of the "fish?"

I don't, personally. But, if someone believes in God, then they should believe that everything contained within in The Bible, as fantastical as it may seem, is indeed a fact. If one claims to believe in the Christian God, but does not believe each and every word contained within The Bible as if it were an undeniable and indisputable fact, then they are hypocrite and a liar.

Does it give you unbridled satisfaction to repeatedly ignore my point with ludicrous replies. I see no need at all to continue to debate this with you. Go read the Apocryphal Text and the Dead Sea Scrolls (you know, the books Constantine wouldn't allow in his Bible) then maybe we'll talk.

What point are you making? I thought your original point was that no man, Christian or not, should just allow themselves to be murdered - which I then rebutted. So, if your point is something different, then please inform me.

:dunno:

1) Though Shalt not Kill - WRONG - The translation in the New International Version is "You shall not murder"

Key word: translation.

Christianity, as many religions are, is based off text that was scribed thousands of years ago. And, instead of following the original text, people - not God, but people - have translated and interpreted those texts in order to fit the convenience of their lives.

 

[vodkazvictim]

You should've killed yourself before he had the chance to blow you up. It's the only way to be sure.

OOOOOOOOOOOkay.

1) Though Shalt not Kill - WRONG - The translation in the New International Version is "You shall not murder"

Who cares about the new version? What's important is the original.
In the original version of the bible Jesus said "bring the unbeliver unto me that I may strangle him"


Now, let me be the one to make the inevitable move of dragging the war against terror - where Moslems attempt to defend their lands from foreign terrorists into this thread:


A squad of American soldiers was patrolling the Iraqi border, when they came across a badly mangled dead body. As they got closer, they found it was an Iraqi soldier.
A short distance up the road, they found a badly mangled American soldier in a ditch on the other side of the road, struggling to breathe. They ran to him, cradled his bruised head and asked him what had happened.
"Well," he whispered, "I was walking down this road, armed to the teeth when I came across this heavily armed Iraqi border guard. I looked him right in the eye and shouted, 'Saddam Hussein was a moronic, deceitful, lying piece of trash!'
He looked me right in the eye and shouted back, 'George W. Bush is a moronic, deceitful, lying piece of trash too!' We were standing there shaking hands when the truck hit us."

 

[Hot Mega]

I support gay rights and gay marriage. Just because I'm Serb Orthodox doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they believe. I'm a free man.

Now it all makes sense. Ethinic and religious cleansing is in your blood.:tongue:

My bad though. Here I was thinking you were a radical, extremist Jew when you're probably worse...a member of the "Black Hand" maybe?.:o

 

[darkwarrior3007]

I don't, personally. But, if someone believes in God, then they should believe that everything contained within in The Bible, as fantastical as it may seem, is indeed a fact. If one claims to believe in the Christian God, but does not believe each and every word contained within The Bible as if it were an undeniable and indisputable fact, then they are hypocrite and a liar.

That's not necessarily true. I believe in the Christian God myself, but I am not a Christian. I left the religion over 10 years ago because I got fed up with and tired of the hypocrisy of organized religion.

I classify myself as a Spiritualist because I believe in spirituality. I don't consider the Bible as undeniable and indisputable fact. In fact I say that the Bible is made up of three things. 1. Some of it actually happened. 2. Some of it has been greatly exaggerated. 3. Some of it were actually popular camp fire stories of the times and the church included them because of their popularity.

The Bible is meant to be a guide on how you're supposed to try to live your life but ultimately you have free will. It has the basic laws and life lessons.

What you're talking about is an extremist type of Christian, someone who lives by every single word in the Bible. Not all Christians are like that and the ones that are, are usually the ones who have no idea what they've actually read.

 

[Red Spyder]

How many Koran burnings did we have before September 11, 2001? None. They hated us already. Haters gonna hate.

 

[Hot Mega]

How many Koran burnings did we have before September 11, 2001? None. They hated us already. Haters gonna hate.

True to a degree. But if you're a parent with a son or daughter in Iraq or Afghanistan where in some cases their lives are dependent on people who's religion people from your country are continuing to trash..the latest of which in a smoldering pile of Korans...you're probably thinking Rev...sit down and STFU.

Are we still trying to win their "hearts and minds" or is that talking point so 2003 now?