China as the next superpower

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being a super power? i don't think they will surpass the united states becaue remember they are a country that oppresses their people highly...that has a lot to do with it...they won't surpass the united states...but they will be a country that if provoked will have its consequences....their population isnt' really anything that will make them a superpower......look at all these small counties that are such great powers...the general population has really not to much to do with it.
 
They already are a superpower!

not to mention there 1,250,000,000 population!
 

delphian

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China has been growing at a rate of 10% GDP increase in the past few years. The US has been growing at about 3.5% GDP. Even if China does have a higher GDP than the US, they will never become a more powerful nation for quite a few reasons. One being what has been stated here numerous times already, pollution. Another being their government. The most important reason, in my mind, that they will never become "the top dog" is due to their poor health conditions, standard of living, and lack of medical expertise. They might outnumber us 5 to 1 but the average life expectancy of a chinaman is far shorter than that of the average american.
 
They might outnumber us 5 to 1 but the average life expectancy of a chinaman is far shorter than that of the average american.

CIA World Factbook Life Expectancy List (2007 estimates):

United States - 78
China - 72.88

Male population only:

United States - 75.15
China - 71.13


United Nations List:

United States - 78.2
China - 73

Male population only:

United States - 75.6
China - 71.3

I'm not seeing how a four to five year difference qualifies as "far shorter".
 

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Let us all sit back and wait for another 10 years and see what will happen.

With ethnic tensions rising in Tibet and Xinjiang, the territorial integrity of the People's Republic might be at stake when the authority of the Communist Party is likely to dwindle in the near future.

The growing middle class in the economic centers of Shanghai, Shenzhen and other mega-cities will call for economic security to secure their wealth. The state-controlled stock exchange and corrupt local officials cannot guarantee the recently acquired wealth.

I predict a slow demise of Communist rule in the upcoming years. The KP will have to grant

a) more and more freedom to the domestic winners of globalization if they don't want to estrange them completely and

b) the ethnically diverse regions more autonomy in order to avoid an implosion of the country.

This will require a delicate balance that could easily sweep away Communist rule once its absolute hold on power has diminished.

... but please, don't hold me accountable if I am wrong. :cool:
 
I just want to say that China's large population is not an asset but a hinderence to them,and they know it.Thats why they have the policys they have to reduce it with things like the one child rule.They will be a force to be reckoned with in the future barring some catastrophe or political upheavel IMO.
 
The complexity of China is far beyond most people in the West can understand. Even CIA has really underestimate the potential of China.

1. The backbone of China industrial growth is based on initial "special economic zones" near Hong Kong where the capital comes from. The Chinese leadership is very determined to develop Shanghai, Beijing and Hong Kong as three major cities. Then the Chinese develops industrial and high tech areas surrounding the cities.

2. With 900 million rural area workers (called migrant workers) coming into cities to perform less than US $1.00 a day work and foreign capital coming through, the growth of China is averaging 8-9% per year. (China's population is a plus and an asset. 900 millions are migrant workers who provide cheap labors, and then you have 400 millions middle-class. Please remember China has the same number of highly educated people 400 millions (more than US, equal to EU. So the 400 millions will be managers, doctors, nurses, businessmen, etc, and 900 millions will be workers)

3. The influx of American capital and investment brings along with technology. Today both mainland Chinese and Taiwan control No. 3, 4 computers in the world. China bought IBM personal computers. But the influx of capital and technology is not just from United States but E.U., Japan and S. Korea.

4. Unlike United States, "Hans" is the only ethnic group in China and comprises over 95% of the entire population. The rest of 5% of minority lives in the north-west, west and south-west China. Despite there are many different dialects , China is able to teach everyone to speak "one language". (There is no ethnically diverse region. China will send another 10 million Hans Chinese to Tibet !)

5. However, there are large influx of westerners in last 10 years in China teaching, working and actually helping the Chinese to advance in technology. Look at their official website http://www.cctv.com, click English, then you will be amazed of the Chinese able to speak fluent English.

6. The Chinese population is actually slows down despite one family one child policy is abolished. India will overrise China in population by 2020-2025.

7. In order to have strict control of the society with 1.4 billion people (4 1/2 times of US) China has no choice but "law and order" to enforce strict rules on its people.

8. The number of women is not a major issue. The number of divorce in China is rising so high and is catching up to the divorce rate in US. Many women have different husbands and able to bear children with different fathers.

9. It will take another 25 years for China to catch up. This has nothing to do with United States. Let's look how China deal with fossil fuel issues. China signed multi-years contracts with many oil-producing countries in Central Asia, Russia, Canada, South America and Africa and get the resouces and keep the country going.

10. Last but not the least, China has never invaded another country in the last 6,000 years. Mongols are not chinese. And I believe China wants peace and harmony and prosperity for its people.
 
china should just go die, thats it thats it
 
You can not use GDP, GNP to measure and compare China and United States.

Because China has 900 million migrant workers make a few dollars a day, but then you have 400 millions middle and upper classes (more than US but equal to the entire EU population) makes hundreds to thousand dollars a day, GDP is meaningless in this case !
 
Q: What's your favorite hobby, DvC?

A: Sassing back at the teacher!
Manchurians, Mongolians, Xinjiang Muslims, etc., etc.... not diverse, huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_ethnic_groups

(please note the map)

They comprise less than 5% of the total population and they do not live in the coastal area. Don't read wikipedia. Go and live there for 15-18 years.
Manchurians, Mongolians, Xinjiang Muslims, and Tibetans are minority and comprise less than 5% of the population and live in autonous administrative regions in the outback !

The Xinjiang Muslims is a major threat to the Chinese. But China imports tens of millions of Hans Chinese to dilute their culture. Then the Chinese make them to become a minority group in their native land. Just like the Tibetans are minority in Tibet because China sent in millions of Hans Chinese to totally destroy the Tibetan culture !
 

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They comprise less than 5% of the total population and they do not live in the coastal area. Don't read wikipedia. Go and live there for 15-18 years.
I am aware of that. Please re-read my post.

I am talking about territorial integrity. Should the Uighurs secede (al-Qaida take note!) from the central state, the Mongols are likely to follow, supported by the Mongolian state and Russia. Tibet has a strong lobby in Western countries that could mobilize an anti-Chinese movement in Southern Asia.

China could (conjunctive) shrink to a Han rump state. Eventually being forced to abandon the one-China policy. With the very slight chance of even seeing the economic powerhouses Hong Kong, Macao and maybe even Shanghai declaring independence.

This is just speculation, yet a strong rebuttal of your wise-cracking posts.
 
I am aware of that. Please re-read my post.

I am talking about territorial integrity. Should the Uighurs secede (al-Qaida take note!) from the central state, the Mongols are likely to follow, supported by the Mongolian state and Russia. Tibet has a strong lobby in Western countries that could mobilize an anti-Chinese movement in Southern Asia.

China could (conjunctive) shrink to a Han rump state. Eventually being forced to abandon the one-China policy. With the very slight chance of even seeing the economic powerhouses Hong Kong, Macao and maybe even Shanghai declaring independence.

This is just speculation, although a strong rebuttal of your wise-cracking posts.


I am aware of what you posted. Do you know the current President of China is called Hu. His previous job was not a KGB agent, a lawyer or "kissing ass politican". Hu was the Governor of Tibet. Hu used the most brutal force to cramp down on every single Tibetan when he was the Governor of Tibet. Hu built the railway all the way to the roof of the world and imported millions of Hans and killed tens of thousands of Tibetans when Hu was the Governor of Tibet. You don't become the "ruler" of China if you can not show you can kill 10,000 (ten thousands) Tibetans !!!!

Also under his brutal leadership, Hu has ordered the systematic Hitler style killing of many Muslims. Hu has developed special forces just like the SS to deal with the minority problems in the northwestern part of China.
 

MRPIMPN4EVA

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I thought China already was a Superpower.
 
You can not use GDP, GNP to measure and compare China and United States.

Because China has 900 million migrant workers make a few dollars a day, but then you have 400 millions middle and upper classes (more than US but equal to the entire EU population) makes hundreds to thousand dollars a day, GDP is meaningless in this case !

in so far as the state's ability to develop and purchase weapons, yes it does. Especially in a one party state.
 
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