Black History classes now banned in Arizona
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Thats my problem they don't bring home anything well save a library book and once and a while math homework. They arent allowed to bring text books home. I call the school to see what they study but the teachers generally dont want to talk to you they only say you dont need to worry your child is doing fine and want to leave it at that.
Thats what screws over my children I care but to many parents don't so the teachers doesn't bother with my kids to much because I'm an active parent. They spend all there time trying to teach the children that dont want to learn and would rather be home watching TV.
My children hate my 1 hr of tv policy but I think its important they use their minds not become mindless automatons.
Maybe if i stop giving a shit the teachers will help my children as well.:dunno:
Kudos for being an involved parent. We need more of them...but your kids don't bring homework home?
Looking at the homework and gauging what they know against it seems pretty reasonable for determining "is our children learning".
Not really my youngest her teacher sends home a monthly make work project like build a park and she has a you and your child should read 20 mins everyday. My oldest had to do a speech this year that was basically her only project. She's brought home some math and when she does its normally about an hrs worth but thats not that often. She also started french this yr but she hasnt even had much homework in that.
I know it is and I feel so lost because they don't so I have to trust the school and that I have a very hard time with.
I am now suddenly thinking about the video for "By The Time I Get to Arizona" By Public Enemy. What's next? A good old fashioned book burning?
The Nazi's did this not only to destroy everything Jewish but to also keep people stupid so they wouldn't ask questions. So is Arizona becoming a facist state? It seems to be headed in that direction.
The Nazi's did this not only to destroy everything Jewish but to also keep people stupid so they wouldn't ask questions. So is Arizona becoming a facist state? It seems to be headed in that direction.
roronoa3000
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It will certainly be interesting to see where America goes in the next 20 years. Will we finally learn to get along and put aside the childish bull shit or will we solidify our place as the second Roman Empire and collapse into various loosley affiliated territories and states? Whatever the outcome, I hope to be watching from some place far away.
You actually live in Canada? If so, I can't vouch for that school system but not having some structured homework assignment almost daily is unheard of here. Or VERY, VERY new.
meesterperfect
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thats been my point in so many threads, basically.
This is why ...
This is why people behind these stories are called "bleeding heart liberals." They are just as sensational as the Glen Beck's and Rush Limbaugh's out there. That's why they are also just as racist for doing such -- many bleeding heart liberals have alwys been.
They take language such as not funding anything that ...
"promote the overthrow of the U.S. government, promote resentment of a particular race or class of people, are designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group or advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals"
And claim it's "racist."
Frankly, I love to "get the goat" of bleeding heart liberals. I'd love to throw in this phrase ...
"Melting pot"
Oh no!
What the language is designed to do is ... and it says it right there ... to not fund "advocate ethic solidarity."
This is the United States. You need to recognize that no one should be a victim of systematic, state-sponsored "ethic solidarity." Doesn't mean there can't be African-American or Latino-American support groups. It just means that students will learn as a combined group.
And as far as someone saying Florida is fucked up, Florida is much like Arizona -- even more so than Texas. Both Arizona and Florida have a major mixture of all sorts of people from everywhere in the Americas, and even from abroad.
This is 100% bleeding-heart liberal rhetoric. Arizona has not "gone racist." Arizona is trying to regain control on the fact that they are an entity with real problems that other states don't understand. Much like Florida.
Have you ever been a party to the movement to counties where people are trying to push Spanish as the official language for all government business? I have. So it's wrong to make English, but it's okay and "tolerance" to make Spanish the "sole official" language?
That's what laws like this are trying to do. As much and more immigrants get away from recognizing other groups that already exist, and the history of the United States as a "collective meeting place of all ethic backgrounds," the more these laws will have to be passed.
The study of ethic backgrounds and history will continue in the US, including in Arizona. What won't be tolerated is the marginalization of any group or the favoritism towards another. That includes white, English-speaking individuals as well.
This is why people behind these stories are called "bleeding heart liberals." They are just as sensational as the Glen Beck's and Rush Limbaugh's out there. That's why they are also just as racist for doing such -- many bleeding heart liberals have alwys been.
They take language such as not funding anything that ...
"promote the overthrow of the U.S. government, promote resentment of a particular race or class of people, are designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group or advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals"
And claim it's "racist."
Frankly, I love to "get the goat" of bleeding heart liberals. I'd love to throw in this phrase ...
"Melting pot"
Oh no!
What the language is designed to do is ... and it says it right there ... to not fund "advocate ethic solidarity."
This is the United States. You need to recognize that no one should be a victim of systematic, state-sponsored "ethic solidarity." Doesn't mean there can't be African-American or Latino-American support groups. It just means that students will learn as a combined group.
And as far as someone saying Florida is fucked up, Florida is much like Arizona -- even more so than Texas. Both Arizona and Florida have a major mixture of all sorts of people from everywhere in the Americas, and even from abroad.
This is 100% bleeding-heart liberal rhetoric. Arizona has not "gone racist." Arizona is trying to regain control on the fact that they are an entity with real problems that other states don't understand. Much like Florida.
Have you ever been a party to the movement to counties where people are trying to push Spanish as the official language for all government business? I have. So it's wrong to make English, but it's okay and "tolerance" to make Spanish the "sole official" language?
That's what laws like this are trying to do. As much and more immigrants get away from recognizing other groups that already exist, and the history of the United States as a "collective meeting place of all ethic backgrounds," the more these laws will have to be passed.
The study of ethic backgrounds and history will continue in the US, including in Arizona. What won't be tolerated is the marginalization of any group or the favoritism towards another. That includes white, English-speaking individuals as well.
And yet who's fault would that be?
The states? Or the union that failed them?
It's easy to say the American Civil War was about slavery.
It's easy to chuck up Andrew Johnson as the worst President in US history.
Looking at the details of why and how is far, far more difficult, and thought provoking.
In fact, if people looked at those details, it would have explained why the abolishment of slavery really didn't solve a lot of issues.
This whole issue is ridiculous IMHO... Why not teach just plain ol' HISTORY? Why did we start separating out people because of skin color in the first place? We really need to get bast this black-brown-white-etc thing and become individuals and citizens, each with choices and freedoms that are ours alone. We need to stop looking at each other in terms of groups because that is not progress. What most people don't even realize is that this whole playing groups against each other is hurting our society while certain people pulling the strings are profiting from it and laughing at the money and power they amass at the people's expense.
This is an easy one to answer really. In fact, the answer is basically why things like BET, Black Miss America Pageant, Black History Month, Hispanic History Month, Native American History Month, etc. exist. This isn't just something that happened yesterday but goes back about 7 or 8 decades ago. Simply put, minorities didn't believe that the white man would give them a fair shot at anything much less cover things that affected them. Basically, if you weren't white, you and anything involving you was ignored. At the time that these particular things came about, this was true. It would be hard to argue that it wasn't.
An example of this would be when Garret Morgan invented the grand father of the version of the Gas mask that we use today. His design was ingenius in the fact that it used a basic principle of chemistry to overcome some of the principle problems found in early devices that attempted to protect the user from noxious and deadly fumes. He tried to market the device through several outlets and even offered to give it to the fire department for free. No one would use it however because the inventor happened to be black. It took the loss of a couple dozen miners for this device to finally be put to use, and even then, most tried to discredit Morgan's invention. This basic thing can be applied to numerous amount of inventions and strides made by minorities back in the day.
Today, however, this problem is all but nonexistant. Thanks to focuses on minorities, a few things have come to light that may have in fact be lost to the ages. I doubt many would have ever known that a black man had his hand in the invention of the light bulb or that a black man contributed to open heart surgery. However, I do believe that given the day in age we liv in, these type of things have over stayed there welcome and have no use if we are going to go forward as a nation. Unfortunately, partisan politics are now dictating what goes into books and what doesn't. This undoubtedly is making things a bit worse as we are taking a step back. Nothing is gained when we allow politics to get in the way of historical accuracy.
Therein lies the issue I imagine. Since "plain ol' HISTORY" notoriously omitted some aspects...specific histories were added with a designed focus on the role of those omitted.
I think the question in a pure academic sense is, how to fairly do justice to specific parts if they're amalgamated into one?
It would be somewhat like abandoning American history in favor of making it a chapter in the amalgamation of general world history.
In that case, I don't know if fair justice can be given to American history.:2 cents:
You mean Andrew Jackson? :dunno:
He is arguably the greatest president in US history. :hatsoff:
Jackson, yes quite possibly. Under him was the only time that the United States was debt free. Also, all presidents that succeeded him up to Andrew Johnson(with the exception of Lincoln) tried to be like Jackson or were nominated by their party because the resembled Jackson. However, Indians would probably spit in your face for such rabble. A lot of them, especially Seminoles, hate him so much that they refuse to use 20 dollar bills.
it says ethnic history not black history.
Don't get me wrong but shouldn't they teach history not just the history of one group?
They can certainly be taught about Martin Luther King but should aslo know about the Jacobite war or the importance of Galatians in Turkey.
Could someone with a Cork accent still teach in Arizona then or where do they draw the line???
Don't get me wrong but shouldn't they teach history not just the history of one group?
They can certainly be taught about Martin Luther King but should aslo know about the Jacobite war or the importance of Galatians in Turkey.
Could someone with a Cork accent still teach in Arizona then or where do they draw the line???
GWB could be POTUS but under this..how can a guy who can't properly enunciate the word "nuclear" get job teaching English in AZ?:o
