After death, our brain functions cease to exist and we begin to decay. It is as simple as that.
If that is all there is then this has all been a joke.
Why not steal, kill, and do whatever?
The biggest set up are Blow Pop lollies. The caramel center has gotten smaller since 1980.
^ The fact that we need some reward to NOT inflict harm on one another is a joke. That is one of my main complaints with religion, some, not all, people can't be civilized and act in a normal manner without believing there is some sort of higher power there to punish them if they do something wrong. Religion is just an archaic form of law that people over emphasize now. We have civilized people now who won't do something stupid just because some "God" isn't watching over them, and we have Law Enforcement for the loons who try to hurt people, why is a "God" still needed to live a civilized and non-violent life?
We don't agree on 99% of things but this is something we do agree on!
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People follow man's laws out of fear.
People follow God's laws out of fear.
Really? I follow the law because I know shooting someone in the face or stealing things from people is wrong, and that it makes you fucking scum if you do it regardless if law prohibits you from doing it or not.
As a human being you should be able to differentiate between right and wrong on your own. You should be intelligent enough to know that going out and infringing on other people's birth-given right to just live life or to feel secure in their own home is wrong. No police officer or deity should have to tell you that killing someone is wrong, you should be intelligent enough as a human to know that.
It's hilariously ironic to me how everything about you and people like you is fear or conspiracy, yet people like you are too scared to go outside, assemble and rally. If you hate the system so much do something about it and don't be a wannabe anarchist behind a computer screen achieving nothing at all.
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If that is all there is then this has all been a joke.
Why not steal, kill, and do whatever?
^ This isn't a self defense argument, you clearly said...
That statement clearly has nothing to do with self defense all you're saying is that if there is no Deity to punish you then you should be able to steal and kill because there will be no repercussions.
Mine was. Yours wasn't. If you do not believe in a God then you do not have to follow any rules. You could kill for any reason.
Especially if you believe this life is all there ever will be.
:wtf: Sense this is all there is, that's what makes it more special than doing whatever you want so you can then repent and live forever worshipping a being that killed newborns and told people to slaughter villages of the opposition, kill the pregnant women and their unborn babies while taking the virgins. On the subject of morality coming from god, clearly that isn't moral and is it just believing in a god that prevents you from doing disgusting things that this god has already done? What if we have to adhere to a god that says killing gays and bad children are the rules? Sense god said it, it must be right....right? If god made you so incapable of understanding secular morality, I guess he isn't the perfect being he claims to be. Not to mention how he tortures non-believers with the excuse that two naked people (mainly the WOMAN) were responsible for there being death. One question, would you killed and rape if your god told you to or if there wasn't a god? If so, you're already corrupt and have no business claiming non-believers are immoral without your idea of a judge in the sky.
Isaiah 55:8-9 (KJV)
8: For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9: For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Organized "religion" is run by men, therefore it's used to control other people. I doubt God approves of most of what is done in his name...
But personal "religion" is quite different IMHO. :2 cents: