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World War I (1914-1918): Year of Remembrance
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As a student of History at the university, I must terribly say that both Word Wars are not teached correctly. Alright, this changes between countries, states, and universities, but I think that we only see the economic part, and not other interesting things, you know, battles, characters, places. You only see which things started the war, but then, only what happened with the economy. BUT, I know that if you want to know more about it, you must finish the career first, and then start your own investigations, or start another type of studies...or simply learn for yourself, like I did.
The First World War definitely changed the world. You know Europe was in crisis, between France and Prussia, between Prussia and Russia, between England and Prussia...then Servia, and the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. Was something so hard to know at all, but one day in 1914, the war started. We can discuss what could happen if the war were more extended.
Personally I love to know about the battles, the characters, the years and countries involved. Sir David Lloyd George for the United Kingdom, Georges Clemenceau for France, Vittorio Orlando for Italy, Thomas Woodrow Wilson for the United States, Wilhem II for Prussia -or Germany-, Hindenburg and Ludenddorf.
But it was a sad thing. You can see the suffer and pain of those who were there, who fighted maybe for nothing, or to fall in the enemy field, and then, you know...people who just didn't know what was happening in Africa, Asia or America, and didn't know who the enemy was. But I must say, the photographs and videos from these years are amazing. I can't believe we're just 100 years after all of this. I say, the tecnologies, the clothes, the places. Everything changed and today if I see them I say "wow, sometimes I want to live in that moment!". The last years of the 19th Century and the firsts of the 20th Century are sooo interesting.
Regards!!
The First World War definitely changed the world. You know Europe was in crisis, between France and Prussia, between Prussia and Russia, between England and Prussia...then Servia, and the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. Was something so hard to know at all, but one day in 1914, the war started. We can discuss what could happen if the war were more extended.
Personally I love to know about the battles, the characters, the years and countries involved. Sir David Lloyd George for the United Kingdom, Georges Clemenceau for France, Vittorio Orlando for Italy, Thomas Woodrow Wilson for the United States, Wilhem II for Prussia -or Germany-, Hindenburg and Ludenddorf.
But it was a sad thing. You can see the suffer and pain of those who were there, who fighted maybe for nothing, or to fall in the enemy field, and then, you know...people who just didn't know what was happening in Africa, Asia or America, and didn't know who the enemy was. But I must say, the photographs and videos from these years are amazing. I can't believe we're just 100 years after all of this. I say, the tecnologies, the clothes, the places. Everything changed and today if I see them I say "wow, sometimes I want to live in that moment!". The last years of the 19th Century and the firsts of the 20th Century are sooo interesting.
Regards!!
The Christmas Truce on the Western Front is part of the great stories of the conflict.
Maybe the soldiers on both sides could sense a future where the nations of Europe would stand together and actually speak to one another
As opposed to killing each other. But the Generals on both sides never wanted to see such a momentous event take place along the front line again
And so more brave soldiers fell.
The saddest thing is the peace was not a complete peace as such.
President Wilson had the 14 Points which if properly discussed and reasoned out by reasonable people could have been the basis for a mutal peace where maybe victory could be declared but blame not pushed upon the shoulders of one nation ,which even allowing for the history before the War started was on reflection , completely wrong.
The politicans had not recognised that the World had changed utterly after the Great War ended.
And in casting out blame and not addressing the real situation , they sowed the seeds of hatred and venegence which eventually led to the outbreak of the Second World War not too long after that.
With that collosal mistake, more lives were destroyed again
Maybe the soldiers on both sides could sense a future where the nations of Europe would stand together and actually speak to one another
As opposed to killing each other. But the Generals on both sides never wanted to see such a momentous event take place along the front line again
And so more brave soldiers fell.
The saddest thing is the peace was not a complete peace as such.
President Wilson had the 14 Points which if properly discussed and reasoned out by reasonable people could have been the basis for a mutal peace where maybe victory could be declared but blame not pushed upon the shoulders of one nation ,which even allowing for the history before the War started was on reflection , completely wrong.
The politicans had not recognised that the World had changed utterly after the Great War ended.
And in casting out blame and not addressing the real situation , they sowed the seeds of hatred and venegence which eventually led to the outbreak of the Second World War not too long after that.
With that collosal mistake, more lives were destroyed again
GodsEmbryo
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Cher Ami, the war pigeon
Cher Ami, which is French for “dear friend”, was a homing pigeon donated to the US Army Signal Corps by British pigeon fanciers to deliver messages during the war. These flying messengers were often called War Pigeons. Cher Ami delivered his most important message on October 4th, 1918.
During World War I, the U.S. 77th Infantry Division attacked the Germans near Charlevaux, France. Only one unit penetrated enemy lines: Major Charles White Whittlesay’s First Battalion of the 308th Infantry Regiment. The battalion was quickly surrounded by Germans – and then came under friendly fire from its own artillery. Whittlesay used his last carrier pigeon to send this three-sentence plea: “We are along the road paralell 276.4. Our artillery is dropping a barrage directly on us. For heavens sake stop it.“
As Cher Ami tried to fly back home, the Germans saw her rising out of the brush and opened fire. For several moments, Cher Ami flew with bullets zipping through the air all around her. Cher Ami was eventually shot down but managed to take flight again. She arrived back at her loft at division headquarters 25 miles to the rear, helping to save the lives of the 194 survivors. In this last mission, Cher Ami delivered the message despite having been shot through the breast, blinded in one eye, covered in blood and with a leg hanging only by a tendon.
Cher Ami became the hero of the 77th Infantry Division. Army medics worked long and hard to save her life. They were unable to save her leg, so they carved a small wooden one for her. When she recovered enough to travel, the now one-legged bird was put on a boat to the United States, with General John J. Pershing personally seeing Cher Ami off as she departed France.
The pigeon was awarded the Croix de Guerre Medal with a palm Oak Leaf Cluster by the French for her heroic service in delivering 12 important messages in Verdun. She died at Fort Monmouth, New Jersey, on June 13, 1919 from the wounds she received in battle and was later inducted into the Racing Pigeon Hall of Fame in 1931. She also received a gold medal from the Organized Bodies of American Racing Pigeon Fanciers in recognition of her extraordinary service during World War I.
Sources:
http://www.si.edu/Encyclopedia_SI/nmah/cherami.htm
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/994/op...i-redder-van-197-soldatenlevens-in-WO-I.dhtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Ami
One question.
Are you going cover the Eastern front where the war on the side was more mobile in the fighting from the Western Front trench war style where the Germans on that front just held on in eject me you can campaign.
And how the Eastern Front changed when Italy and the Ottoman Empire enter the war and the major change after Lenin grabbed power in Russia.
Are you going cover the Eastern front where the war on the side was more mobile in the fighting from the Western Front trench war style where the Germans on that front just held on in eject me you can campaign.
And how the Eastern Front changed when Italy and the Ottoman Empire enter the war and the major change after Lenin grabbed power in Russia.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
GE, I don't post in this thread, but don't take that as disinterest.
I check this thread daily to see what has been posted. There's some really good history in here and I've enjoyed reading it. Keep posting.
I check this thread daily to see what has been posted. There's some really good history in here and I've enjoyed reading it. Keep posting.
GodsEmbryo
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This war had an impact on the whole world. It would be quit egocentric and disrespectful if I would only focus on a certain part of what happened as if it was 'more' important then the rest. Of course that's not the case. Thanks for the feedback. I'll look into some stories of the Eastern Front and I'll post them some day. However...
... I don't want to turn this into a historical and heavy to read thread with in depth analysis of the political and military actions allover the world. There are two reasons for that. First of all, there are thousands of good books, forums and websites for someone who's interested in WW I and wants to learn about it. A single thread on a porn forum is not the best place to do that, especially because this period is quite complex, wasn't a war between 'good' versus 'bad', and can't be summarized in a few posts. Secondly, I want to post stuff for about an entire year to keep this memory alive (if possible longer, but we'll see...). The problem is not coming up with stories, but the attention span of people. If I would post one heavy story after another, people would soon skip it altogether. And that's not the point of 'remembrance'.
The way I want to contribute to the remembrance is to spark curiousity and interest by focusing on things you don't always read about. Hopefully it sparks enough interest that someone starts reading about that period. And so the madness will never be forgotten...
And of course everbody is invited to post stories, that would be great
Kind words. Thank you very much Ace.
Will be looking for it.
And sorry for the rush job question with some words missing like in.
212646718
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I highly recommend the 10-part British TV series The First World War. The series initially aired on British TV in 2003, then later on American cable television. It's a cool look at a war some people say never really ended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zViwCUtQ5o&list=PLF99D52C080463C76
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zViwCUtQ5o&list=PLF99D52C080463C76
GodsEmbryo
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Interesting vid from the gamer The Mighty Jingles (W.O.T.) about some tanks of WW I:
The stories he's talking about can be found here, the Overlord's Blog:
http://overlord-wot.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/from-mud.html
http://overlord-wot.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/black-box.html
(Unfortunately - or as usual - no sources are provided. I don't have much time at the moment but some research provided differences in details. So always be sceptical. It doesn't detract anything from their bravery though.)
The stories he's talking about can be found here, the Overlord's Blog:
http://overlord-wot.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/from-mud.html
http://overlord-wot.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/black-box.html
(Unfortunately - or as usual - no sources are provided. I don't have much time at the moment but some research provided differences in details. So always be sceptical. It doesn't detract anything from their bravery though.)
Shell shock is the reaction of some soldiers in World War I to the trauma of battle. It is a reaction to the intensity of the bombardment and fighting that produced a helplessness appearing variously as panic and being scared, or flight, an inability to reason, sleep, walk or talk. "Simply put, after even the most obedient soldier had enough shells rain down on him, without any means of fighting back, he often lost all self control."
BlkHawk
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As part of the centennial remembrance the BBC has an article on the Choctaw code talkers of WWI. Good read it also has an interesting video a tribe member speaking the language.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26963624
I wasn't aware of code talkers being used in WWI, per the article they were not even US citizans at the time. To the Choctaw and other tribes involved, thank you.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26963624
I wasn't aware of code talkers being used in WWI, per the article they were not even US citizans at the time. To the Choctaw and other tribes involved, thank you.
13 days late from the 99th anniversary of this tragedy.
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/on-this-d...civilian-attack-of-wwi-161544116.html#fCUBW5u
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/on-this-d...civilian-attack-of-wwi-161544116.html#fCUBW5u
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
To bad it's slogan, didn't live up to itself.
"The war to end all wars"
Would have been nice....
"The war to end all wars"
Would have been nice....
There was a very good 3 part programme shown on the BBC showing the set of events and what went on behind the scenes which lead to Germany sending troops into Belgium and Britain saying that if they did not withdraw, a declaration of war would be made.
Which happened at 2300 PM (British SummerTime) on the 4th of August 1914.
As a cabinet meeting awaited word of a withdrawal they thought would come.
But it never came. And so the British Empire was duty bound to protect Belgian soverignity and enter the war.
"37 Days"
That was the historic irony. It was not the assaination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand and his wife which drew in France and Britain, it was Belguim that proved to be the firecracker which caused the firestorm.
A famous quote at the time is linked to the British Foreign Secretary at the time who is said to have remarked
"All over Europe, the lamps are been extinguished" (or words to that effect)
Where Light is been extinguished, the Darkness of War takes over hoping that the war will be over by Christmas 1914.
Those estimates were way off for 4 years of absolute horror on the Western Front the Eastern Front as well as in North Africa and the Middle East would turn into a firestorm of misery.
Which happened at 2300 PM (British SummerTime) on the 4th of August 1914.
As a cabinet meeting awaited word of a withdrawal they thought would come.
But it never came. And so the British Empire was duty bound to protect Belgian soverignity and enter the war.
"37 Days"
That was the historic irony. It was not the assaination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand and his wife which drew in France and Britain, it was Belguim that proved to be the firecracker which caused the firestorm.
A famous quote at the time is linked to the British Foreign Secretary at the time who is said to have remarked
"All over Europe, the lamps are been extinguished" (or words to that effect)
Where Light is been extinguished, the Darkness of War takes over hoping that the war will be over by Christmas 1914.
Those estimates were way off for 4 years of absolute horror on the Western Front the Eastern Front as well as in North Africa and the Middle East would turn into a firestorm of misery.
Skyraider22
The One and Only Big Daddy
My God this is the greatest thread on Freeones for those that don't know there history are doomed to repeat it.There is still so much more that has not been spoken on in this thread. Still a great and beautiful thread.
Then with the decision of going to war hanging in the balance , well we can guess what the key advisors would be telling each other
"We have overwhelming superiority with 2 million calvarymen and another 1 million armed with rifles. The war will be over in 6 weeks"
There lay another problem and it was on the planning side.
Because a lot of the key military advisers at the time who had the ear of the Kaiser of Germany, the King of Britain , the Czar of Russia , the Emperor of Austria Hungary..
These advisers had still the Book how to fight Wars from the early 19th Century
When the key enemy in Continental Europe was Napoleon Bonaparte
Yes they had millions of men to call upon and hand out rifles to , but when these soldiers ended up in the trenches, the enemy was not so much like themselves holding rifles but these men saw the first tanks rolling at them, Chemicals were been used and fire guns for burning through cover.
The wars of the early 20th Century were going to shake these planners to their core
"We have overwhelming superiority with 2 million calvarymen and another 1 million armed with rifles. The war will be over in 6 weeks"
There lay another problem and it was on the planning side.
Because a lot of the key military advisers at the time who had the ear of the Kaiser of Germany, the King of Britain , the Czar of Russia , the Emperor of Austria Hungary..
These advisers had still the Book how to fight Wars from the early 19th Century
When the key enemy in Continental Europe was Napoleon Bonaparte
Yes they had millions of men to call upon and hand out rifles to , but when these soldiers ended up in the trenches, the enemy was not so much like themselves holding rifles but these men saw the first tanks rolling at them, Chemicals were been used and fire guns for burning through cover.
The wars of the early 20th Century were going to shake these planners to their core
GodsEmbryo
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Well, Europe had firecrackers all over. Everyone was an ally of someone else. Even Germany had little choice but to declare war on Russia since Germany's ally Austria-Hungary had declared war on Serbia and Russia protected Serbia.
I've been away from FO for some months so it seems I have some catching up to do. Maybe a good way to get me back on track here...
Declarations of war:
July 28, 1914: Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia (read document here (French) and original here)
August 1, 1914: Germany declares war on Russia (read here (translation))
August 3, 1914: Germany declares war on France (read here)
August 4, 1914: Germany invades Belgium (at war without declaration of war) (last message from the Belgian government to Germany before the invasion can be read here)
August 4, 1914: Britain declares war on Germany
August 5, 1914: Montenegro declares war on Austria-Hungary
August 5, 1914: Austria-Hungary declares war on Russia
August 6, 1914: Germany at war with Serbia (no declaration of war)
August 8, 1914: Germany at war with Montenegro (no declaration of war)
August 12, 1914: France declares war on Austria-Hungary
August 12, 1914: Britain declares war on Austria-Hungary
August 23, 1914: Japan declares war on Germany
August 27, 1914: Austria-Hungary declares war on Japan
August 28, 1914: Austria-Hungary declares war on Belgium
November 1, 1914: Russia declares war on Turkey
November 2, 1914: France declares war on Turkey
November 2, 1914: Serbia declares war on Turkey
November 3, 1914: Montenegro declares war on Turkey
November 5, 1914: Britain declares war on Turkey
November 12, 1914: Turkey declares war on the Entente (Britain, France, Russia)
May 23, 1915: Italy declares war on Austria-Hungary (read here)
May 24, 1915: San Marino declares war on Austria-Hungary
August 20, 1915: Italy declares war on Turkey
October 14, 1915: Bulgaria at war with Serbia (no declaration of war)
October 15, 1915: Britain at war with Bulgaria (no declaration of war)
October 16, 1915: France at war with Bulgaria (no declaration of war)
October 19, 1915: Italy at war with Bulgaria (no declaration of war)
October 20, 1915: Russia at war with Bulgaria (no declaration of war) (reed Tsar Nicholas statement here)
March 9, 1916: Germany declares war on Portugal
August 27, 1916: Rumania declares war on Austria-Hungary (see declaration here)
August 28, 1916: Germany declares war on Rumania
August 28, 1916: Turkey declares war on Rumania
August 28, 1916: Italy declares war on Germany
August 30, 1916: Turkey declares war on Rumania
September 1, 1916: Bulgaria declares war on Rumania
November 25, 1916: Greece declares war on Germany
November 25, 1916: Greece declares war on Bulgary
April 6, 1917: US declares war on Germany (see document here and here)
April 7, 1917: Cuba declares war on Germany (read declaration here)
April 10, 1917: Panama at war with Germany (no declaration of war)
April 11, 1917: Dominican Republic ends diplomatic relations with Germany
April 14, 1917: Bolivia ends diplomatic relations with Germany
June 30, 1917: Greece ends diplomatic relations with Austria-Hungary
July 2, 1917: Greece ends diplomatic relations with Turkey
july 22, 1917: Siam declares war on Germany
july 22, 1917: Siam declares war on Austria-Hungary
August 4, 1917: Liberia declares war on Germany
August 14, 1917: China declares war on Germany
August 21, 1917: China declares war on Austria-Hungary
October 7, 1917: Peru ends diplomatic relations with Germany
October 7, 1917: Uruguay end diplomatic relations with Germany
October 26, 1917: Brazil declares war on Germany
December 7, 1917: US declares war on Austria-Hungary
December 9, 1917: Ecuador ends diplomatic relations with Germany
December 14, 1917: Panama declares war on Austria-Hungary
December 16, 1917: Cuba declares war on Austria-Hungary
April 30, 1918: Guatemala at war with Germany (no declaration of war)
May 8, 1918: Nicaragua declares war on Germany and it's allies
May 23, 1918: Costa Rica declares war on Germany and its allies
june 19, 1918: Honduras declares war on Germany
july 12, 1918: Haiti declares war on Germany
September 12, 1918: Brazil declares war on Austria-Hungary
Rey C.
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