Why the World Hates America

Philbert

Banned
What the hell?! None of the 9/11 hijackers were even from Afghanistan, let alone were the attacks a declaration of war by their country. Aside from Hussein's invasion of Kuwait the U.S. was directly involved in the rest of those conflicts, although you could make the argument that the U.S. was in way one or another responsible for Hussein's actions since the U.S. put him into power.

Let me help you...Afghanistan was ruled by the Taliban; the Taliban gave AlQada the complete use of the country, and when 911 (pay close attention now), an attack by AlQada on the USA, went down guess who we retaliated against? Need any clues?

We attacked Bosnia? What are you on?...you need to change meds.
Your statement was "What other nations do you see starting wars abroad?"
I gave you a few examples, and you switched to "the U.S. was directly involved in the rest of those conflicts"; good thing, too...saved a lot of babies from being shot after their daddies were buried in mass graves by the Yugo Serbs.
Does it annoy you that Western intervention saved many Moslems from execution (real genocide, not the made up stuff you accuse the US of doing)?
I'll bet...
 
Let me help you...Afghanistan was ruled by the Taliban; the Taliban gave AlQada the complete use of the country, and when 911 (pay close attention now), an attack by AlQada on the USA, went down guess who we retaliated against? Need any clues?

If your case is that 'Al-Qaeda' is to blame, with Osama Bin Laden being the supposed leader of this organization, why did they invade Afghanistan? Bin Laden is Saudi, and hence 'Al-Qaeda' Saudi organization. On top of that Bin Laden was never charged for the attacks by the FBI, and neither has he, or anyone from 'Al-Qaeda' taken credit for them as far as I know.

We attacked Bosnia? What are you on?...you need to change meds.

Yes led by NATO.

Clinton Is The WorId's
Leading Active War Criminal


"One of the notable features of the NATO-U. S. war against Yugoslavia was the gradual extension of targeting to civilian infrastructure and civilian facilities-therefore civilians who would be in houses, hospitals, schools, trains, factories, power stations, and broadcasting facilities. Two months after the war was over, the BBC "revealed" that the attack on Yugoslav television on April 23 was part of an escalation of NATO bombing whereby the target list was extended to non-military objectives; NATO was "taking off the gloves." According to Yugoslav authorities, 60 percent of NATO targets were civilian, including 33 hospitals and 344 schools, as well as 144 major industrial plants and a large petro-chemical plant whose bombing caused a pollution catastrophe. John Pilger noted that the list of civilian targets included "housing estates, hotels, libraries, youth centres, theatres, museums, churches and 14th century monasteries on the World Heritage list. Farms have been bombed and their crops set afire."
This NATO targeting was in open violation of the laws of war, although this was certainly neither publicized nor condemned in the mainstream media; U.S. pundits like Thomas Friedman of the New York Times frequently called for a more aggressive bombing of Serb civilian targets and the commission of more war crimes (Rachel Coen, "Lessons of War: Leading papers call for more attacks on civilian targets next time," EXTRA! Update, August 1999). There can be little doubt that Yugoslavia finally agreed to a military exit from Kosovo mainly because they recognized that, although their forces had not been defeated on the battlefield, the NATO strategy of attacking civilian targets in violation of international law, was subject to no limits.
On May 27, in the midst of this criminal operation by NATO, Louise Arbour, chief prosecutor of International Criminal Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia, issued an indictment of Milosevic for war crimes, thereby implicitly exonerating and facilitating the NATO commission of war crimes. By allowing her Tribunal to be so mobilized in NATO propaganda service, Arbour and her colleagues were arguably guilty of war crimes themselves."

In Iraqi Divide, Echoes of Bosnia for U.S. Troops

"It is not there yet, Colonel Donahoe said, but the communal hatred he has witnessed in this area of Iraq, the blindingly ignorant things people say, the pulling apart of Shiite and Sunni towns that were once tightly intertwined are all reminiscent of what he saw years ago as a young Army captain on a peacekeeping mission in the former Yugoslavia.

"You talk to people here and it's literally the same conversations I heard in Bosnia," Colonel Donahoe said. "I had a police colonel tell me the other day that all the people in Jurf," a predominantly Sunni town, "are evil, including the children."

Divide and conquer! Freedom and democracy the American way.
 
If your case is that 'Al-Qaeda' is to blame, with Osama Bin Laden being the supposed leader of this organization, why did they invade Afghanistan?

because this person believes that because al-qaeda was in afghanistan therefore it's o.k. to bomb the fuck out of afghanistan. in the world of logic and humane decency this doesn't really make sense, but jingoists are usually prone to fanatical irrationalities.
 

Philbert

Banned
If your case is that 'Al-Qaeda' is to blame, with Osama Bin Laden being the supposed leader of this organization, why did they invade Afghanistan? Bin Laden is Saudi, and hence 'Al-Qaeda' Saudi organization. On top of that Bin Laden was never charged for the attacks by the FBI, and neither has he, or anyone from 'Al-Qaeda' taken credit for them as far as I know.



Yes led by NATO.

Clinton Is The WorId's
Leading Active War Criminal


"One of the notable features of the NATO-U. S. war against Yugoslavia was the gradual extension of targeting to civilian infrastructure and civilian facilities-therefore civilians who would be in houses, hospitals, schools, trains, factories, power stations, and broadcasting facilities. Two months after the war was over, the BBC "revealed" that the attack on Yugoslav television on April 23 was part of an escalation of NATO bombing whereby the target list was extended to non-military objectives; NATO was "taking off the gloves." According to Yugoslav authorities, 60 percent of NATO targets were civilian, including 33 hospitals and 344 schools, as well as 144 major industrial plants and a large petro-chemical plant whose bombing caused a pollution catastrophe. John Pilger noted that the list of civilian targets included "housing estates, hotels, libraries, youth centres, theatres, museums, churches and 14th century monasteries on the World Heritage list. Farms have been bombed and their crops set afire."
This NATO targeting was in open violation of the laws of war, although this was certainly neither publicized nor condemned in the mainstream media; U.S. pundits like Thomas Friedman of the New York Times frequently called for a more aggressive bombing of Serb civilian targets and the commission of more war crimes (Rachel Coen, "Lessons of War: Leading papers call for more attacks on civilian targets next time," EXTRA! Update, August 1999). There can be little doubt that Yugoslavia finally agreed to a military exit from Kosovo mainly because they recognized that, although their forces had not been defeated on the battlefield, the NATO strategy of attacking civilian targets in violation of international law, was subject to no limits.
On May 27, in the midst of this criminal operation by NATO, Louise Arbour, chief prosecutor of International Criminal Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia, issued an indictment of Milosevic for war crimes, thereby implicitly exonerating and facilitating the NATO commission of war crimes. By allowing her Tribunal to be so mobilized in NATO propaganda service, Arbour and her colleagues were arguably guilty of war crimes themselves."

In Iraqi Divide, Echoes of Bosnia for U.S. Troops

"It is not there yet, Colonel Donahoe said, but the communal hatred he has witnessed in this area of Iraq, the blindingly ignorant things people say, the pulling apart of Shiite and Sunni towns that were once tightly intertwined are all reminiscent of what he saw years ago as a young Army captain on a peacekeeping mission in the former Yugoslavia.

"You talk to people here and it's literally the same conversations I heard in Bosnia," Colonel Donahoe said. "I had a police colonel tell me the other day that all the people in Jurf," a predominantly Sunni town, "are evil, including the children."

Divide and conquer! Freedom and democracy the American way.

You and Willi need your own website...!:rofl2:
 
Its a propaganda war

Yes and whoever has the most money and access to the media wins, and guess what, that's not me.

Belgrade sentences Clinton for war crimes

Belgrade sentenced 14 Western leaders to 20 years in prison each on Thursday for war crimes during last year's NATO air strikes and said it would issue arrest warrants.

US President Bill Clinton, Jacques Chirac of France, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and 11 other leaders have been on trial since Monday in the Belgrade District Court. Empty seats in the courtroom were labelled with their names.

"In the name of the people...We sentence...to individual prison terms of 20 years each," presiding judge Veroljub Rakitic said, reading out the 14 names to applause. He said an order was given to issue arrest warrants against them.

The 14 were found guilty as charged for inciting a war of aggression, war crimes against the civilian population, use of banned weapons, attempted murder of President Slobodan Milosevic and the violation of Yugoslavia's territorial integrity.

Milosevic was indicted with four close aides by the International War Crimes Tribunal for former Yugoslavia for repressing ethnic Albanians in Kosovo before and during the bombing, in March to June of last year.

The tribunal refused to open an investigation into allegations that NATO leaders were guilty of war crimes in the air campaign that forced Serb forces to withdraw from Kosovo.

"They fired 600 cruise missiles and made 25,119 air sorties during the 78-day aggression, attacking both military and civilian targets, killing and wounding many people and causing mass destruction of property," the charges read.

"During their so-called humanitarian intervention they have killed 546 soldiers and 504 civilians, of whom 88 children... They left behind them devastation in the place of modern factories, bridges, schools," Rakitic said.

The trial began a few days before September 24 elections which the Yugoslav government portrays as a choice between "patriotism and treachery" branding its domestic opponents traitors and NATO lackeys plotting to destroy Serbia.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Ok I will spell it out...

The picture came from nfl.com

nfl.com stands for the 'National Football League'

Sports? Guns? War? Explosions? Oh yeah! Throw some beer and trucks in there and we've got a party!

The picture is of a football player who went to Iraq and is standing with two assault weapons in some neanderthalic attempt to emulate all those fantasy war films he adored watching while he was a child. Like a lot of people he lives in a world of fantasy violence, a world where war is fun, and death is just a result of righteous striking down the subhuman.

To top this all off they make a play on the phrase 'Patriot Act'. If you 'constitutionalists' know what this is, which it seems you don't from your replies, you would understand why this might make someone just a little bit angry.

As for why people around the world hate America, no it's not because of all of your strip malls and drunk braindead women vomiting all over your run down streets, it's because as others have stated 'the attitude' of the majority, and the politics and interventionism of the government. When Europeans see Americans they usually laugh or are disgusted. Are they jealous of your culture? haha, far from it.


The subject in the photo is a player for the New England Patriots, hence the patriot act pun. Did that go over everyone's head?
 

Philbert

Banned
Yes and whoever has the most money and access to the media wins, and guess what, that's not me.

Belgrade sentences Clinton for war crimes

Belgrade sentenced 14 Western leaders to 20 years in prison each on Thursday for war crimes during last year's NATO air strikes and said it would issue arrest warrants.

US President Bill Clinton, Jacques Chirac of France, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and 11 other leaders have been on trial since Monday in the Belgrade District Court. Empty seats in the courtroom were labelled with their names.

"In the name of the people...We sentence...to individual prison terms of 20 years each," presiding judge Veroljub Rakitic said, reading out the 14 names to applause. He said an order was given to issue arrest warrants against them.

The 14 were found guilty as charged for inciting a war of aggression, war crimes against the civilian population, use of banned weapons, attempted murder of President Slobodan Milosevic and the violation of Yugoslavia's territorial integrity.

Milosevic was indicted with four close aides by the International War Crimes Tribunal for former Yugoslavia for repressing ethnic Albanians in Kosovo before and during the bombing, in March to June of last year.

The tribunal refused to open an investigation into allegations that NATO leaders were guilty of war crimes in the air campaign that forced Serb forces to withdraw from Kosovo.

"They fired 600 cruise missiles and made 25,119 air sorties during the 78-day aggression, attacking both military and civilian targets, killing and wounding many people and causing mass destruction of property," the charges read.

"During their so-called humanitarian intervention they have killed 546 soldiers and 504 civilians, of whom 88 children... They left behind them devastation in the place of modern factories, bridges, schools," Rakitic said.

The trial began a few days before September 24 elections which the Yugoslav government portrays as a choice between "patriotism and treachery" branding its domestic opponents traitors and NATO lackeys plotting to destroy Serbia.

Even I have to admire such a creative interpretation of what actually happened.
Like a National Lampoon Movie... National Lampoon's War Crimes: just when you thought they weren't making funny movies anymore!
And I'll bet you tried to organize a charter flight for you and a few others to testify for the prosecution.
Enough of the twisted self-loathing and America hating...you're embarassing. You just don't see it.
 
Even I have to admire such a creative interpretation of what actually happened.
Like a National Lampoon Movie... National Lampoon's War Crimes: just when you thought they weren't making funny movies anymore!
And I'll bet you tried to organize a charter flight for you and a few others to testify for the prosecution.
Enough of the twisted self-loathing and America hating...you're embarassing. You just don't see it.

because al-qaeda was in afghanistan therefore it's o.k. to bomb the fuck out of afghanistan. in the world of logic and humane decency this doesn't really make sense, but jingoists are usually prone to fanatical irrationalities.
 

Philbert

Banned
because al-qaeda was in afghanistan therefore it's o.k. to bomb the fuck out of afghanistan. in the world of logic and humane decency this doesn't really make sense, but jingoists are usually prone to fanatical irrationalities.
(What? Are you really a jingoist? I love all your funny commercials!)

Yes, it was and is...since there isn't some rock named Afghanistan that the US bombed, just thousands of Taliban and Alqada fighters, componds, ammo dumps, and various concentrations of hardware. Very A-OK!
Afghans and Uzbeks, and I'm sure the Kootchis, were overjoyed to see the Taliban creamed. They were resented and hated by the resident Afghans...oh, sorry, do you know anything about Afghanistan and the Pashtun Hill tribes, or as we call them, the Taliban? Or is this all just annoying information to you?
I'll bet you think we should have sent them a very strongly worded letter of protest, and offered to sit down over Chai and Kabob to address their grievances. And discuss their humane action of flying hundreds of innocent passengers into the Twin Towers before incinerating a few thousand more innocent people, not to mention a few hundreds of firemen and police who had 2 buildings collapse on top of them.
And it was the second attempt at mass murder using the Towers; we are so impatient and intolerant. :nono:
 
(What? Are you really a jingoist? I love all your funny commercials!)

Yes, it was and is...since there isn't some rock named Afghanistan that the US bombed, just thousands of Taliban and Alqada fighters, componds, ammo dumps, and various concentrations of hardware. Very A-OK!
Afghans and Uzbeks, and I'm sure the Kootchis, were overjoyed to see the Taliban creamed. They were resented and hated by the resident Afghans...oh, sorry, do you know anything about Afghanistan and the Pashtun Hill tribes, or as we call them, the Taliban? Or is this all just annoying information to you?
I'll bet you think we should have sent them a very strongly worded letter of protest, and offered to sit down over Chai and Kabob to address their grievances. And discuss their humane action of flying hundreds of innocent passengers into the Twin Towers before incinerating a few thousand more innocent people, not to mention a few hundreds of firemen and police who had 2 buildings collapse on top of them.
And it was the second attempt at mass murder using the Towers; we are so impatient and intolerant. :nono:

are you a christian? do you think jesus would have bombed afghanistan?
 

Philbert

Banned
are you a christian? do you think jesus would have bombed afghanistan?

1) not relevant 2) absolutely...although he would have done what the Alliance did, drop the fire of Heaven on the Taliban and AlQada fighters.
Several times...
Afghanistan is a place, normally it's hard to bomb a whole country.
 

kuruption

Closed Account
Because when people that are rich and famous commit crime they get a slap on the wrist while poor people spend years in jail for possession of marijuana. Oh, and TMZ. Those are the only two things I hate, other than that I love it. :D
 
Even I have to admire such a creative interpretation of what actually happened.
Like a National Lampoon Movie... National Lampoon's War Crimes: just when you thought they weren't making funny movies anymore!
And I'll bet you tried to organize a charter flight for you and a few others to testify for the prosecution.
Enough of the twisted self-loathing and America hating...you're embarassing. You just don't see it.

These are facts, whether you choose to believe them is up to you.

Here get educated, come back, and stop your 'America is innocent' act. :thumbsup:

Noam Chomsky on Serbia-Kosovo, Genocide, NATO aggression
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4SmhjeojTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAWi7e8_eOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHLetILA55c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grqPwqwoOcA

There are 4 parts now, so study hard I'm going to quiz you.
 
And discuss their humane action of flying hundreds of innocent passengers into the Twin Towers before incinerating a few thousand more innocent people, not to mention a few hundreds of firemen and police who had 2 buildings collapse on top of them.
And it was the second attempt at mass murder using the Towers; we are so impatient and intolerant. :nono:

Do you know the illegal and illegitimate war in Iraq has cost over 1 million lives? That of course is just a credit to 'bad intelligence', so their lives don't matter I guess.

People are killed by the thousands everyday, and nobody cares, but the great nation of America is given a little shock after decades of oppression, genocide, theft and murder and now suddenly the eyes begin to open? Didn't last long though did it.
 
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