Why Tampa Ain't Baseball
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when's the last time they had a winning record...?
that should be an omen
I think baseball can thrive anywhere... but as a franchise they don't give Tampa Bay any reason.
I don't know who the owner is but I think it's all on him. They need hitters. A couple more starting pitchers. Or basically a decent team.
that should be an omen
I think baseball can thrive anywhere... but as a franchise they don't give Tampa Bay any reason.
I don't know who the owner is but I think it's all on him. They need hitters. A couple more starting pitchers. Or basically a decent team.
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meesterperfect
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I never knew, and the stadium is easy to get to. Maybe its because theres alot of seniors living in the area.
They haven't had a winning record in their entire 10 year history.
that's my point
and it's a good point. Put a good team on the field or at least some star-quality players, and you'll bring the fans.
The Tampa Bay baseball team has never been very popular in Tampa-(I used to live there)---On the other hand,The Tampa Bay Lightning hockey team is very,very popular and sets attendance records.The Buccaneers sell out their stadium too.The Rays baseball games are overpriced and very boring in My opinion.The impression I got from going to the games is that mostly old folks go to the baseball games.Hockey is more universally popular (in Tampa) for some reason.Maybe because it is more fun to watch and the team is better.
I can give you one good reason why the Devial Raysare a bad team.
The following is from ESPN.com and is the MLB team payrolls for this season:
1. NY Yankees $195,229,045
2. Boston 143,123,714
3. NY Mets 116,115,819
4. Chicago Sox 109,290,167
5. LA Angels 109,251,333
6. LA Dodgers 108,704,524
7. Seattle 106,516,833
8. Chicago Cubs 99,936,999
9. Detroit 95,180,369
10. Baltimore 95,107,808
11. San Francisco 90,469,056
12. St. Louis 90,286,823
13. Atlanta 89,492,685
14. Philadelphia 89,368,213
15. Houston 87,759,500
16. Oakland 79,938,369
17. Toronto 79,925,600
18. Milwaukee 71,986,500
19. Minnesota 71,439,500
20. Cincinnati 69,654,980
21. Texas 68,818,675
22. Kansas City 67,366,500
23. Cleveland 61,289,667
24. San Diego 58,235,567
25. Colorado 54,424,000
26. Arizona 52,067,546
27. Pittsburgh 38,604,500
28. Washington 37,347,500
29. Florida 30,507,000
30. Tampa Bay $24,124,200
It's tough to win when you are paying less the 1/3 of what even the mid pack spending teams are.
The following is from ESPN.com and is the MLB team payrolls for this season:
1. NY Yankees $195,229,045
2. Boston 143,123,714
3. NY Mets 116,115,819
4. Chicago Sox 109,290,167
5. LA Angels 109,251,333
6. LA Dodgers 108,704,524
7. Seattle 106,516,833
8. Chicago Cubs 99,936,999
9. Detroit 95,180,369
10. Baltimore 95,107,808
11. San Francisco 90,469,056
12. St. Louis 90,286,823
13. Atlanta 89,492,685
14. Philadelphia 89,368,213
15. Houston 87,759,500
16. Oakland 79,938,369
17. Toronto 79,925,600
18. Milwaukee 71,986,500
19. Minnesota 71,439,500
20. Cincinnati 69,654,980
21. Texas 68,818,675
22. Kansas City 67,366,500
23. Cleveland 61,289,667
24. San Diego 58,235,567
25. Colorado 54,424,000
26. Arizona 52,067,546
27. Pittsburgh 38,604,500
28. Washington 37,347,500
29. Florida 30,507,000
30. Tampa Bay $24,124,200
It's tough to win when you are paying less the 1/3 of what even the mid pack spending teams are.
^ Roy Oswalt makes about 20+ million a year
Thanks, McRocket for posting those payrolls. Very interesting, looks like Arizona is getting the most bang for their buck with all their young players (who they'll soon be paying through the nose to keep). And what a disaster for the White Sox this season. High payroll and the second worst record in the majors. Kansas City even passed them recently.
I had a "Baseball Digest" from 1970 discussing why the Cardinals didn't repeat in 1969. One of the several reasons was that they had become "fat cats" because their payroll was approaching 1 million dollars. flylicker
Things have sure changed in 38 years.
Things have sure changed in 38 years.
Now, you'll be lucky to get a bat boy for that price.:dunno:
Agreed.
Just think, if Alex Rodriguez gets 500 at bats this year he will be paid $50,000 per at bat (based on his $25,000,000 salary). Though I realize he is a truly great player, that is - to me - near insanity.
Yeah that much money is near insanity but if you think about it, he is getting that much money because there is incredible amounts of money being generated in his sport. If it wasn't going to the players it would all be going to the owners.
I wish there was a way to figure out how much each player is actually worth to the team, and pay them based on that. (How many fans they put in the seats, their value in winning games, etc.) I think the closest we have to that is performance-based incentives that are put in contracts.:dunno:
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
IMO, performance-based incentives are the best way to get people to play better.
My first year playing hardball (regular baseball, no tees or kid stuff), my team won absolutely no games at all. We were 0-22, HAHAHAHA.
Anyway...the next year, during the offseason, our coach gave us individual incentives and we did a lot better. We all started with 4 quarter-mile laps and based on our performance, we would either add laps or subract laps to our total, which we would have to run after every game.
For example, if we got a hit, we subtracted a lap from our total. If we got an RBI, we subtracted a lap from our total. If we struck out, we had to add a lap to our total. If we made an error...you get the point.
Two years after our embarassing 0-22 season, we finished our regular season 21-1 and went through the playoffs, ending up one game short of the National Championship. I give a lot of the credit to the incentives. It really made people play a lot harder and smarter.
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