Why Biden would be the worst candidate Democrats could pick

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[georges]

Sarah Sanders: Joe Biden Can’t Even Handle Softball Questions And The Media Remains Silent
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/sar...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

DNC Source Says Biden VP Pick Is Down To Two
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/dnc...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

Trump Says Democrats And Joe Biden Are ‘Against The Bible’
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/tru...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

Biden Attacks Black Voters In Bizarre Interview
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/bid...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

 

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As if it weren't obvious where the smears of Biden are originating.

Good little Soviet Republicans, running to Putin.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/poli...russia-election-interference-biden/index.html

US intelligence officials have presented information to lawmakers and presidential campaigns indicating Russia is behind an ongoing disinformation push targeting former Vice President and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden, according to sources familiar with the matter.

But while Republicans and Democrats overwhelmingly agree that Russia is once again attempting to interfere the US presidential election, the two sides have emerged from recent election security briefings at odds over what the classified intelligence says about Moscow's intentions. The dispute mirrors how the two sides sparred over the Russian interference campaign in the 2016 election as GOP and Democratic leaders privately battled during the heat of that campaign about how much they should disclose to the public.
"The intelligence services have come to very firm conclusions about what the Russians are up to and who is acting on behalf of the Russians," Sen. Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat and member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told CNN Thursday, referring to the 2020 campaign.
"In the briefings that I've received, there's no ambiguity about what the Russians' intention is and there's no ambiguity about what narratives they are pushing. And there's no ambiguity about the people they are using to push them," he added.
But Republicans are arguing that the intelligence shows an effort by Moscow to sow discord in the US elections and that it is just part of a wider swath of foreign interference that US intelligence is tracking from other countries, including China and Iran.
"It's pretty clear that foreign governments want to disrupt our elections. That the Iranians and Chinese don't have much love for Trump," the Republican Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham said when asked about Russia's intentions. "The main thing is they are playing in our backyard -- and that's the big takeaway,"
While members of both the House and Senate have received briefings in recent days, sources tell CNN that the presidential campaigns are also aware of intelligence suggesting Russian disinformation efforts are specifically focused on Biden. The Trump and Biden campaigns both declined to comment when asked if their briefings have included information about Russia targeting the former vice president.
✦ Lawmakers at odds over Russia's intentions
Democrats are making the case that intelligence reviewed by members of Congress and both campaigns adds up to a broader Russian interference effort intended to damage Biden's candidacy and, in turn, help President Donald Trump.
However, Republicans argue that there is not clear evidence that foreign actors seeking to interfere in the 2020 race, prefer one candidate over the other.
The intelligence community, meanwhile, has been careful to steer clear of publicly suggesting Russia prefers one candidate over the other.
Intelligence and law enforcement officials familiar with the briefings have expressed frustration that some lawmakers have sought to politicize the information. Some Republicans appeared to downplay information related to foreign interference while some Democrats homed-in only on information related to Russia, the officials say.
Russia's interference in the 2016 election -- which the US intelligence community believes was aimed at boosting Trump's candidacy and hurting his opponent, Hillary Clinton -- led to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation. The prospect of interference in 2020 will further test US defenses against foreign meddling, which Trump has repeatedly downplayed as he has dismissed any suggestion that Kremlin influence played a role in his election.
Democrats have stopped short of saying whether intelligence officials have explicitly told them Russia is working to hurt Biden or help Trump but some lawmakers told CNN on Thursday that information provided in recent briefings suggests foreign governments are working to aid specific candidates.
"My impression is ... their pattern has been to seek to assist specific candidates," Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut, said Thursday, referring to foreign interference efforts overall.
That aligns with Russia's broader strategy which is focused on influencing voter turnout for candidates based on preference, according to Michael Chertoff, a Republican who previously served as Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush.
"It's not so much that they necessarily think they are going to change your vote from one candidate to another. It's about depressing turnout for candidates they don't like and elevating turnout for candidates they do like," Chertoff told CNN.
"But most of all, it is about creating uncertainty and suspicion and lack of confidence in our political leadership ... which is really a way of saying that information campaigns are a tool of conflict," he added.
Republicans demurred when asked if they have seen evidence that Russia is aiding Trump.
Acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Marco Rubio would not say if he thinks Russia is working to help a specific candidate, telling CNN "their ultimate goal is to divide our country and get it to fight with each other."
Asked again if Moscow is trying to help Trump, the Florida Republican said "the election landscape, the interference landscape, has gotten incredibly complex ... none of these people are Republicans or Democrats."
"They want us to get us to fight against each other. There are multiple nations now involved in this. And stay tuned," he added.
✦ Democrats keep pushing to release classified information
The top US counterintelligence official came under fire from Democratic leaders last month after he issued a new warning about efforts by Russia, China and Iran to interfere in the upcoming presidential election, as lawmakers claimed his statement did "not go nearly far enough in arming the American people with the knowledge they need about how foreign powers are seeking to influence our political process."
The statement came from Bill Evanina, who is tasked with briefing relevant stakeholders on foreign election interference, and was intended as an exercise in transparency on an issue that remains a top concern for the intelligence community.
Still, Democrats have continued to push for the administration to make more information available to the American public, something intelligence officials insist they plan to do in the near future but offered little indication regarding a timetable.
Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, also told CNN Thursday that it is very important the administration "warn the American people about what nations are trying to interfere and they put out China, Russia and Iran -- and what some of their tactics are so that Americans are not tricked by misinformation and disinformation programs."
However, Warner would not say if it is clear that the intelligence shows Russia favors a specific candidate, telling CNN he is going to "keep putting pressure on the administration" to reveal more and that he has "a lot of faith in Bill Evanina" that the initial statement "will be the first in a series" of releases from the US government.
In the meantime, intelligence officials are walking a careful line when it comes to addressing the issue of foreign election interference publicly for a variety of reasons, including concerns that certain information will be politicized and potential risks to sources and methods.
They have been particularly cautious with regards to detailing Russia's actions and publicly addressing the question of whether Moscow is again interfering to help Trump and hurt his opponent, as was the case during the 2016 election, as the intelligence community unanimously assessed happened in 2016.

 

[ChuckFaze]

DNC Source Says Biden VP Pick Is Down To Two
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/dnc...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

Biden has really painted himself into a corner. No matter which Black woman he picks, it's just going to be Stage One of his undoing. Not that he was in good standing to begin with.

Whichever Black woman he selects, she'd better REALLY be ready to take on being President. Cuz the probabilities are extremely high that between Day 1 and within the 1st month of a hypothetical Bizarro World win by Biden ... Biden would assault or kill a citizen and wind up in jail or prison ... or just plain ole lose it and wind up in a straitjacket.

 

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Around 28 other hopefuls for this party, and the DNC threw in behind this guy. That will never not be bewildering.

 

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Why Biden would be the worst candidate Democrats could pick:

Here's a visual; Tucker Carlson's lawyer argued in court that (a) what Carlson says isn’t news; (b) he doesn’t necessarily do any research; and (c) what he says isn’t necessarily true.

“Would a reasonable viewer be coming here [to ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’] and thinking, ‘This is where I’m going to be hearing the news of the day’?” Fox News attorney Erin Murphy asked in a hearing-via-telephone on Wednesday, according to reporter Frank G. Runyeons’s story at Law360.com.

In an earlier court filing, Murphy referred to “Tucker Carlson Tonight” as “hyperbolic opinion commentary,” not “sober factual reporting.”

This is the sort of propaganda the typical far right Trump supporter consumes to inform their politics, Carlson is not a glaring exception, Carlson isn't even the quintessential purveyor of far right propaganda, but he is an exemplum primi of how it's done. Fake News? You betcha, in spades on the far right.

 

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Why Biden would be the worst candidate Democrats could pick:

Here's a visual; Tucker Carlson's lawyer argued in court that (a) what Carlson says isn’t news; (b) he doesn’t necessarily do any research; and (c) what he says isn’t necessarily true.

“Would a reasonable viewer be coming here [to ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’] and thinking, ‘This is where I’m going to be hearing the news of the day’?” Fox News attorney Erin Murphy asked in a hearing-via-telephone on Wednesday, according to reporter Frank G. Runyeons’s story at Law360.com.

In an earlier court filing, Murphy referred to “Tucker Carlson Tonight” as “hyperbolic opinion commentary,” not “sober factual reporting.”

This is the sort of propaganda the typical far right Trump supporter consumes to inform their politics, Carlson is not a glaring exception, Carlson isn't even the quintessential purveyor of far right propaganda, but he is an exemplum primi of how it's done. Fake News? You betcha, in spades on the far right.

It sounds like the Alex Jones defense: "He's playing a character. He is a performance artist." [https://money.cnn.com/2017/04/17/media/alex-jones-defense/]

They know they are pitching fiction under the guise of facts. When these 'performers' get caught, they plead 'How stupid is my audience to believe this shit?'

 

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It sounds like the Alex Jones defense: "He's playing a character. He is a performance artist." [https://money.cnn.com/2017/04/17/media/alex-jones-defense/]

They know they are pitching fiction under the guise of facts. When these 'performers' get caught, they plead 'How stupid is my audience to believe this shit?'

They bank on their stupid audience daily. I read a screed on Reddit (the butt crack of the internet, btw) that pretty much nailed it... "The only thing conservatives care about is, 'Fuck Liberals'." You see that "conservative" attitude on display on this very forum on a regular basis.

 

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I like that, and yes, it does describe a good chunk of trump supporters (even one or two who post in this forum), and those people are absolutely beyond reason. But I'd say not all trump supporters fit this description.

There's another good sized chunk of them, I think, who consider themselves serious minded people, who believe that he's been good for the country. They believe that he's brought jobs back, that he's managed the economy well, and that if he could just ease up on the tweeting he'd be an otherwise fine president. I suspect quite a few of them might refuse to believe that he's as bad as he is because it just seems so inconceivable. Not in America!

Those are the ones who might still be reached, and made to see sense, if they could just be yanked out of their fox news bubble for 5 minutes.

 

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I like that, and yes, it does describe a good chunk of trump supporters (even one or two who post in this forum), and those people are absolutely beyond reason. But I'd say not all trump supporters fit this description.

There's another good sized chunk of them, I think, who consider themselves serious minded people, who believe that he's been good for the country. They believe that he's brought jobs back, that he's managed the economy well, and that if he could just ease up on the tweeting he'd be an otherwise fine president. I suspect quite a few of them might refuse to believe that he's as bad as he is because it just seems so inconceivable. Not in America!

Those are the ones who might still be reached, and made to see sense, if they could just be yanked out of their fox news bubble for 5 minutes.

That last line guarantees that reaching them and making them see sense is an almost insurmountable task, and renders them just as delusional as the rest. Far right propaganda has turned their politics into a religion, the only hope they have is to disengage from the free drugs that is far right propaganda. Yes, it's possible to reach at least some of them, but not very likely.

 

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How do you identify those, do you have a test you use? What happens to the others, that can't be made to see?

Dick has quickly morphed.

 

[georges]

Biden again repeats the myth that Michael Brown’s shooting – which sparked Ferguson riots – was not justified
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...MFXNihXCMJjnnRm3xZj9T5pjw7qK4VaqxXpR67abgql_g

 

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Kamala Harris
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/510989-biden-picks-harris-for-vp

 

[georges]

Kamala Harris
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/510989-biden-picks-harris-for-vp

Another bad choice but anyways none has forgotten what was her attitude during the Kavanaugh trial, she is another lousy politician from California.

 

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Another bad choice but anyways none has forgotten what was her attitude during the Kavanaugh trial, she is another lousy politician from California.

Be thankful you're not in the US right now. We're going to be reminded of it constantly for the next three months.

Barack Obama: She is the “best-looking attorney general in the country”

 

[abrogate]

BidenTrump

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/30/8660... the 2020 Libertarian candidate for president.

 

[georges]

CNN: Joe Biden Could ‘Step Aside’ For Kamala Harris
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cnn...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

 

[afterlights]

The DNC is so embolded and operating with such impunity. After her utterly failed presidential campaign, she's now positioned like this. I was hoping their backing of Hillary was a one-off, but it's clear they've stolen the GOP's kool-aid recipe.

 

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CNN: Joe Biden Could ‘Step Aside’ For Kamala Harris
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cnn...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

The DNC is so embolded and operating with such impunity. After her utterly failed presidential campaign, she's now positioned like this. I was hoping their backing of Hillary was a one-off, but it's clear they've stolen the GOP's kool-aid recipe.

Biden 'stepping aside' is pure fantasy at this point. He won for reasons which could be debated ad infinitum.

The DNC should not be emboldened. If anything, 2016 should be a cautionary tale about what could easily happen again. I noticed earlier today that Trump's approval rating ticked up slightly and the double-digit lead narrowed a bit.

 

[abrogate]

CNN: Joe Biden Could ‘Step Aside’ For Kamala Harris
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cnn...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

I keep seeing his interviews and wonder if he is really going to make it to the end. Win or lose.
Just doesn't seem that far fetched that Kamala and Clinton or some other sort of take over is about to happen.