I'm still amazed that out of every possible candidate the GOP could have floated in 2016, that Trump was the turd that rose to the top. If it had been anyone other than Trump would Hillary have still lost? It if has been any candidate other than Hillary would Trump have still won? Meh, who cares, Biden vs Trump in a congressional cage match, tough call, but I give the nod to Biden for the same reasons as our esteemed thread starter.