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Where has masculinity gone?

foxycougar said:
Yes, let's just blame everything on women...see how far that gets ya...

I'm not blaming, I'm stating that an action drives to a consequence.
 

4G63

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Men need to get out of the offices, the malls, the bakerys, the salons, and everywere else we don't belong. Men need to go out and get dirty, make stuff, break stuff, compete, swear, fart... men stuff.

I see the testorone levels drop on TV (one reason I don't watch tv) but not in my day to day life. I spent last weekend helping my freinds lift and supercharge a Ford Expediton, then we drove to the middle of nowere and went 'wheelin with it, my Nissan and a Chevy k1500. We got the Expedition stuck, we busted the CV on the Chevy, and I fried my clutch. We got drunk, passed out in the mud, woke up the next day and; fixed the Chevy, drove to NAPA got me a clutch, installed a cluch in a feild (hard) and dug out the Ford by hand. And we spent the whole time pushin each other in the mud, haveing mud fights, talking shit, and being guys.

In any country in the world, a man can buy a cheap pick-up truck, through a tent and some gear in the back, and drive out to nowere. That's old school maleness. Girls love to go camping, especially when the man knows what he's doing. But for some reason thats not cool anymore and I don't know why. Guys still wear t-shirts and jeans, but they're designer, cost 200 an outfit! I buy my jeans for $12 and a bag of tees for $7. Men are way to concerned about looks, just stay clean, and exercise 3 times a week. That's all anybody needs. :2 cents:

BTW guys don't need to work in an office to have internet conections. I'm at work and I'm online, and I can look at porn!!!! I'm going to put this intake manifold gasket on the 4-Runner I'm working on. I'm doing my part to keep our testosterone, what did you do today?
 

BNF

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x4g63x said:
BTW guys don't need to work in an office to have internet conections. I'm at work and I'm online, and I can look at porn!!!! I'm going to put this intake manifold gasket on the 4-Runner I'm working on. I'm doing my part to keep our testosterone, what did you do today?

That's cool to be able to stay online without having a panic button or whatever.

BTW I deep squatted that 4-Runner/equivalent (in one set) today to do my part... :D
 
foxycougar said:
You should also remember that the Y-chromosome has been shrinking for a long, long time. The human Y-chromosome is significantly smaller than the X-chromosome and this is happening in virtually all mammals with one exception....the platypus. Everyone get ready for an invasion.....the platypi are taking over!!

They think were going to become extinct because of this. The Y-chromosome can't exchange information to repair itself like a pair of X's do so it is slowly mutating over time. Myself I don't know, it seems like there have been male and female living organisms for a long time and this has never been a problem that I have known of.
 
Eventually (not any time in the next million years), it will become impossible for a baby to be born male because the Y-chromosome will be deteriorated so badly. AND THE PLATYPI WILL RISE!!! lol
 
I heard a hundred thousand years or so.

Perhaps females will learn to reproduce themselves without males, and then they will rule the world. Although, who will open the pickle jars then? ;) Maybe this was there plan all along, to take over from the inside.

Every animal should feel the effects of this because you would think that everything that has a Y-chromosome would be affected. I guess not. A platypus has a lot of characteristics of other things like replies.
 

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A good thread and I will share you my opinions.
I have talked with a lot of people including men and women about this.
Some girls said they liked a totally shaved man body even his cock. How dumb that can be? Very dumb.
I think a man must be a man.I see some Men wearing these gucci glasses exactly the same one that some porn babes wear, it says a lot. I also see them wearing tight jeans it says a lot and same for some pointy shoes that make me puke permanently. Men wear watches with Diamonds, how is that supposed to be a sign of masculinity?
I have seen some Women (especially Italians) wearing either fake Rolex Daytonas or big ass Panerai watches just to show they are not inferior to Men, is that lame ? yes it is 400% lame.
I was told that by several doctors that people who are doing body building and then drop it won nothing. Women in bodybuilding is even more disgusting. Is a woman full of muscles nice? No.
It happens to lift heavy boxes with documents and other things. I ride my bike a lot an walk a lot. Nothing beats daily exercise.
I have seen some women that are dressing themselves crappily. The examples? Baggy pants, jeans with lot of holes or army pants. Some fashion items are more of bad taste than good taste.
I think a woman a woman must be a woman which means to have big tits and no shaved cunt. Small tits and a totally shaved cunt are far to be the synonym of feminity but more a synonym of an underage girl, the example is the crappiest pmoy 2004, Carmella Danielle Decesare.
A woman shouldn't dictate a man what he should do, and I think that a man should be able to say no to a woman. If the man can't say no then he is not a man. He is a girlie man.
It is better to be a man of strong character (even if it tends to be on the hardass side sometimes) than to be a yes man with no personality and no credibility.
 
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people, it's very obvious. male became punkass bitches because no one fucks anybody up anymore. we settle disputes in courtrooms and hit like bitches outside of them. when was the last time you got your ass beat? we grow up in a society that codemns physical acts of violence. You cant even beat your own children in public anymore.

The only way to reverse the pussification of the male species is to kick your children's asses...well that, and hand out asskicking to random strangers along the way.
 
In-4-mant said:
people, it's very obvious. male became punkass bitches because no one fucks anybody up anymore. we settle disputes in courtrooms and hit like bitches outside of them. when was the last time you got your ass beat? we grow up in a society that codemns physical acts of violence. You cant even beat your own children in public anymore.

The only way to reverse the pussification of the male species is to kick your children's asses...well that, and hand out asskicking to random strangers along the way.

While I don't condone random acts of violence, I must admit it is embarrassing to see the number of people who don't know how to through a punch. It used to be mostly the women who flailed their arms like idiots when they got into a fight, not anymore.
 

om3ga

It's good to be the king...
Well, it appears that Metrosexual man is passé (sorry, Becks :1orglaugh ).

The caring, sensitive and ultra-well-groomed "metrosexual" man of the Nineties has been shown the door by the woman who helped to make him famous.

Marian Salzman, the US trendspotter, says that women are bored by idols such as David Beckham and Jude Law. Instead they are yearning for the manly virtues of Cary Grant & George Clooney.
 
om3ga said:
Marian Salzman, the US trendspotter, says that women are bored by idols such as David Beckham and Jude Law. Instead they are yearning for the manly virtues of Cary Grant & George Clooney.

Although it isn't like George Clooney is some grizzled mountain man either. The sort that live in a log cabin in the forest with a beard a couple of feet long. He seems a little bit metro to me. :1orglaugh
 

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I hope you're being sarcastic, Gazinya. I really do. What are faggety jeans anyway?
does it?

Hahahahaha; I apologize in advance: this is going to be an inane and trivial posting - but sometimes these topics are the most comical. Ever notice those types of people with really thick and bushy eyebrows? I am talking about Rudolf Hess, Colin Farrell, Eugene Levy, Maven Huffman, Groucho Marx; types. It is really 'nasty' looking, and they are often called 'caterpillar' eyebrows. They make a person look really 'gross' and 'annoying' looking.

Anyway, my friend got tired of the teasing, and incessant mocking (you know how people look for entertainment in each others every move, appearance, utterance, or slip) and he shaved his down a bit. Now, he is bullied by the military/football macho assholes for being 'gay/effeminate.' You just can't win with thick eyebrows.
 

Torre82

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Hahahahaha; I apologize in advance: this is going to be an inane and trivial posting - but sometimes these topics are the most comical. Ever notice those types of people with really thick and bushy eyebrows? I am talking about Rudolf Hess, Colin Farrell, Eugene Levy, Maven Huffman, Groucho Marx; types. It is really 'nasty' looking, and they are often called 'caterpillar' eyebrows. They make a person look really 'gross' and 'annoying' looking.

Anyway, my friend got tired of the teasing, and incessant mocking (you know how people look for entertainment in each others every move, appearance, utterance, or slip) and he shaved his down a bit. Now, he is bullied by the military/football macho assholes for being 'gay/effeminate.' You just can't win with thick eyebrows.

:sigh: Only in America. That bushy look is what a good portion of the rest of the world has. And.. at least among those named, you've inadvertently singled out my Jewish brethren. Then again, I just felt like pointing that out and not going any further than that. :) :p :thefinger

As for the topic.. well, I suppose I'm one of those types. Actually, back when I was younger I fought against it. I'm a thin, short male. Annoyed the piss outta me to see the tall, beefy football playing fugly types always get the girl. Not only do they get the girls consistently, they're often assholes who believe their size and popularity mattered to *The little guy*. While this was certainly an issue of primary concern in school, the reality is that the rest of life is still a popularity contest, naturally. Sooo.. living in the midwest shows you a couple things. A man's man often tends to think about what is and what is not gay far too often.

As it stands, I've been with both sexes.. my left hand's nails are painted and I think I'm wearing girly pajamas.. :shrug: I wouldnt know, I wear them all the time and have long-since forgotten what side of the closet society might prefer them on. Mine? Or hers?

I can act pretty much however I want, I can throw a mean punch and parry well enough. :) I wear what is soft and comfortable because male clothes are just so damned uncomfortable and *rugged*. I'm not a person that needs my levi's 501s to last throughout the years. I'd much rather wear capris and not have to worry about how I'm walking. SPEAKING OF!

In the midwest youll find an ecclectic mix of hicks, (insert Earnhardt memorial license plate) ghetto scum, (baggy pants and that G_D-F!CKING-AWFUL PIMP WALK!) and goths (who apparently are defecting to the Emo camp in large numbers. Hm.) While people dont fall into these categories 100% of the time.. stereotypes work, and stereotypes are rather comfortable things to fall into to find likeminded souls.

SO! Speaking as someone who doesnt particularly mind being called a fag, I find it a much more freeing experience to wear what you want, talk how you want, and yet at the same time be completely happy with what you're getting nightly from the Missus.

The alternative is to deny one'self so much, though. The midwest alternative seems like a polar opposite. A possibly scraggly, unkempt beast of a man that's always on the lookout for threats to his virility.

And while on the subject, what exactly is it about the ambivalent sexuality that annoys alpha males so much? It just seems such a fragile thing. As if my lack of a codified set of rules regarding my gender will somehow float across the room and infect your rampantly virile, bulging brass balls and bring you utter ruin and damnation for even daring to be less of a raging testosterone-filled pustule of what your six foot, 250 pound ass deems unmanly.

or, if I wanted to summarize.. I think playing the jew card works awful well, here:

"Screw the aryan or olympic ideal" Humans dont all look like models. You have to live with what you're given, and accentuate or accessorize accordingly. :hatsoff: With that said, I still know what chivalry is. I hold doors open, I get her off first, I'm comfortable enough in whatever fights I've been in to know I can defend her against reasonable harm. I'm .. hm. Perhaps I've rambled enough. G_d knows I hate reading long responses from others. ;) Cheers!
 
FIRST OFF:

I realise that I am responding to a VERY OLD POST.

So please don't badger about it.


Now to respond to the OP himself (I admit I have not read through the entire thread as I was posting this).

Hi BNF,

I am going to attempt giving my professional "opinion" to your queries.
I was out walking around the city after lunch today, and I had a hard time telling whether on not several people were male or female - not so much from the clothing, but from the movement and builds.

It reminded me of an article I read (at a bodybuilding site) by a spots medicicinal doctor, about the contantly decreasing levels of testosterone in men around the world. Levels have been dropping measurably the entire century and there is no end in site.
A. IMHO, this opinion of "falling testosterone levels" is unsubstantiated. If testosterone was dropping at the rates claimed, human beings would be facing population wipe out.

Given our ever increasing population on planet Earth, I would have to disagree with the nay sayers. There is waaaaaaaaaaay more to birth and population than just "testosterone".

The healthcare professional in me is hesitant to apply the labels of "male" or "female" from just 'gait' characteristics alone.

When I combine that with the tendencies of young males (in Europe and the USA where I frequent) to act less masculine to exercise less and to in general carry themselves more unisex, I pity the future
This is a very "subjective" statement BNF. Besides the problem of "define: Masculine"... the other riddle lies with YOUR perception of "what is masculine" and "why does BNF think the males of today in Europe and America are less masculine". :)

. I am surrounded daily at work and the gym by pure testosterone. My levels are high, and by bring around other males with high levels, researchers have shown that the overall levels can increase. (Though the levels decrease on all other males who are not Alpha types!)
A. High testosterone might not always be a "good thing". For example: high testosterone is the leading cause of MPB (Male Pattern Baldness).

Also, while testosterone is a 'sex hormone' - having "more of it" doesn't mean you will be "wild in bed".


B. I'd love to see a peer reviewed journal about this "research"

In general, my comments about men can be extended to women, in the sense that they are becoming less feminine, more unisex.
Purely, entirely subjective opinion there BNF! :)

I mention this here because porn boards are the last place where men seem to be able to say (post) what they are thinking about women.
I disagree. Let me state what I know from personal experience:

Do you know any male nurses who work in hospitals? Particularly in the US? If not, I encourage you to do so...

Anywhere else, a comment about a woman's parts can drawn stares or finger waving "no".
Not necessarily. But I admit that it is a "risk" for males to make even 'remotely suggestive comments.. even in jest'.

The women who model nude and in porn are typically the extreme other end of the feminine scale - enlarged breasts, big hips, big thighs, small waists, long hair, plenty of make up.....
Again BNF - this is very much YOUR subjective opinion. Besides, are you dismissing the hundreds of porn stars who have "small breasts, are 20 years old and short hair" ??

Besides, for example: The women in "porn" during the 70s were NOT like the ones you just described. Hell! "Porn" in the 70s or 80s was NOT like the porn of today! I won't bother describing what was considered "porn" when I was a teenager [I doubt 99.99% of Freeones population would recognise the things I said!].

Is this a man's man's last stand? Freeones, I mean? :( :mad:
I humbly disagree.
 
First of all - i bet a psychologist could spend days trying to interpret all the possible meanings and undertones of the posts in this thread - anyway

eh, people, anyone on here who is over maybe 35 years old, or knows about the music & culture of the past, in particular the 1970s, must be able to remember glam rock

David Bowie, for instance ( a total legend ), back in the day was pretty "metrosexual" and there were about thousand other similarly dressed blokes in the media back then

as for the shaving body hair - that is defo becoming more common for guys in the UK - especially trimming pubic hair. I dunno if it's the influence of porn but now a lot of girls i know will complain & suggest you shave you balls or whatever


finally - In-4-mant < post 36> - i'm a hetero male who wears pink shirts / sweaters or whatever all the time, as do loads of other guys in the UK, and i don't give a f*ck about whether anyone else thinks i look "gay" or whatever
- so if you're handing out ass-whoopings to guys like me, then bring it on :)


( also finally finally, before someone replys regarding the thin white duke's sexuality - i already know he wasn't shy about trying new things :rolleyes: )
:2 cents:
 

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:sigh: Only in America. That bushy look is what a good portion of the rest of the world has. And.. at least among those named, you've inadvertently singled out my Jewish brethren. Then again, I just felt like pointing that out and not going any further than that. :) :p :thefinger

A black girl has said to him: 'Don't be thinkin you cute cuz you waxed yo eyebrows.'

I was there with him, when she said it. Seriously, like having a big nose, 'no one' likes that look. It will always be a source of incessant mocking. You claimed that I singled out Jews: I don't think that Rudolf Hess or Maven Huffman counts. You are correct though, a lot of Jews and Greeks have this look, along with bear-like body hair: another 'nasty' trait.

I forgot to mention Pete Sampras, a Greek: this dude has got a 'rug' on his chest. It's a shame that people are so superficial about appearences, and looks: but it's human nature. I don't think that Darwin ever claimed that nature wasn't brutal. I don't personally care how other men groom themselves, or how masculine they are: I am not that idle, or lonesome. I just wanted to tell the funny eyebrow story. :D

Pete Sampras:

http://www.postershop.com/Sampras-Pete/Sampras-Pete-Photo-Pete-Sampras-6223403.html
 
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