As a diplomatic starting point that's a positive thing But as the article notes it's very complicated, and anything but written in stone. Cease fires with Russia don't have a high rate of longevity or success. That has been the case previously in Syria as well. The US and Russia also remain in complete opposition regarding the Assad regime, so... :dunno
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When Trump Meets Putin.............
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As a diplomatic starting point that's a positive thing But as the article notes it's very complicated, and anything but written in stone. Cease fires with Russia don't have a high rate of longevity or success. That has been the case previously in Syria as well. The US and Russia also remain in complete opposition regarding the Assad regime, so... :dunno
Nope, Trump not smart enough for that kind of tricks.
If Putin comes out looking strong and tough, like he owns Trump, you have nothing to fear. But if he comes out weak like Trump scared the shit out of him, you'd better start digging
fallout shelters right now...
Wow, that's genius. Let Daech and Assad fight each other, kill each other, let Assas gas his on people, let Daech burn people in cages.
If you think that the fact that Putin agreed on a plan that's fair to both him and Trump is a good thing, something Trump shoud be pride for, you are deeply stupid : If Putin agreed it means he has this covered. Maybe he won't bomb the rebels anymore but don't even think he won't be involved in that war anymore, he's gonna keep on supporting Assad, one way or the other.
One thing is for certain, Trump is smarter than you.
Can you point to 3 things you have been right about in the past 6 months?
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Why is it any of the US's business about the Assad Regime?
Regime haha....he's an elected leader.
Is there a declaration of war? A UN charter?
Anything to make the presence of the US military in Syria LEGAL?
You people seem to never consider that US presence in Syria is an illegal invasion.
And theyve actually attacked and killed their soldiers. The same soldiers fighting "the terrorists".
So someone tell me why does the US have any say in Syrian politics and government.
Putin knows an Alpha when he sees one.
muh Russia collusion tho.
muh Russia collusion tho.
Macron winning the french presidential
Democrats establishment not learning anything from their defeat, keeping up with corporate democrats that everyone hate, refusing to go further left (Sanders, Warren, Justice Democrats, etc.)
GOP and Trump failing to repeal and replace Obamacare
lol. so if the democrats in the Georgia and MONTANA of all places special elections ran someone who was further left in the same vein as Sanders, Warren or Hugo Chavez, the democrats would've won? yes, democrats, PLEASE move further left.
You don't know America. Watch a truck commercial sometime.
Montana, no (Trump's margin : +21%)
Georgia, maybe Trump's margin : +5%)
Michigan, sure Trump's margin : +0.22%
Wisconsin, sure Trump's margin : +0.77%
Pennsylvania, sure (Trump's margin : +0.73%)
Ohio, maybe (Trump's margin : +8%)
Pennsylvania, Wiconsin and Michigan turning blue would have made Bernie win. And there's no way he wouldn't have beat Trump in these industrial states.
Georgia, maybe Trump's margin : +5%)
Michigan, sure Trump's margin : +0.22%
Wisconsin, sure Trump's margin : +0.77%
Pennsylvania, sure (Trump's margin : +0.73%)
Ohio, maybe (Trump's margin : +8%)
Pennsylvania, Wiconsin and Michigan turning blue would have made Bernie win. And there's no way he wouldn't have beat Trump in these industrial states.
Please tell me that you are not equating his primary state wins to the general election.
Trump would have stomped an even bigger hole in his ass than he did Clinton.
Bernie couldn't even win Ohio or Pennsylvania from Pantsuit.
Both states Trump won.
Trump would have won over 400 electoral votes against Sanders.
Oh and you called Fillon the next president of France.
I essentially predicted Trump would win a day after he announced. Not wait until two were remaining.
That's how you make a prediction.
Dream on son.
you don't seem to understand. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan flipped not because Hillary wasn't far enough left. Those 3 states flipped for Trump precisely BECAUSE the democrats have gone too far left. And no "republican" would've pulled those 3 states other than Trump. I use that in quotes because Trump hijacked the party and showed those GOP cucks how to win.
You don't know America. We're only partially cucked. whereas western europe ...
ford guy here, but this will do:
if not us, who?
I thought these people voted for Trump because he promised he would stop corporations from outsourcing industrial jobs to China, get them back to America and come with a healthcare plan that would cover everyone...
Also a lot if these guys were Bernie supporters ans turned to Trump because Hillary was the Democratic candidate. This would not have happened if Bernie had been the candidate.
You can tort the facts as much as you want, we all know Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate democrats could have and Bernie would have crushed him.
yes, those blue-collar workers were more inclined to vote for Bernie Sanders. Jill Stein was out there, why didn't they vote for her? You don't get America. We're not as cucked as you are, regardless of what you hear.
#RuggedIndividualism
and the democrats don't either. 1000+ state and federal seats lost since Obama took office. They have't been this few a minority since prohibition, but they are the "progressive" party.
I'm mocking the left and loving it.
Because Jill Stein is a lost cause, she can't win. And because, due to her poor media coverage, most of thme probably never heard about her, don't even know what she stands for.
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Yep.
I called it again.
Putin and Trump met.
Trump cried in Putins arms for 2 1/2 hours.
"I thought I could help the country but I can't, I just can't".
"I know Trumpy, I know".
I made that up but it has some truth to it.
Anyway, The meeting came off as a success.
And the US Media and GOV (same thing if you haven't figured it out yet) immediately start talking impeachment.
But if it ended with both countries on the brink of war that would have been great.
Then the War Profiteers and the Military could have spent a few trillion more on war stuff
(which is what has bankrupted our country and put most Americans one paycheck away from homelessness if you haven't noticed yet).
Yeah, peace with Russia means no more Invading Syria and killing the people fighting "our enemy" Al-Qaueada.
Can't have that. Too much money at stake.
No more destabilizing the Middle East.
Israel (the country who owns the USA if you haven't noticed yet) is currently fighting the Syrian Army and helping Isis.
But Israeli needs the US blood and money to destroy their neighbor Syria.
And no Syria then no Iran.
So Trump better get back on the warpath pretty quickly or he may wind up in an impeachment process or worse.
I called it again.
Putin and Trump met.
Trump cried in Putins arms for 2 1/2 hours.
"I thought I could help the country but I can't, I just can't".
"I know Trumpy, I know".
I made that up but it has some truth to it.
Anyway, The meeting came off as a success.
And the US Media and GOV (same thing if you haven't figured it out yet) immediately start talking impeachment.
But if it ended with both countries on the brink of war that would have been great.
Then the War Profiteers and the Military could have spent a few trillion more on war stuff
(which is what has bankrupted our country and put most Americans one paycheck away from homelessness if you haven't noticed yet).
Yeah, peace with Russia means no more Invading Syria and killing the people fighting "our enemy" Al-Qaueada.
Can't have that. Too much money at stake.
No more destabilizing the Middle East.
Israel (the country who owns the USA if you haven't noticed yet) is currently fighting the Syrian Army and helping Isis.
But Israeli needs the US blood and money to destroy their neighbor Syria.
And no Syria then no Iran.
So Trump better get back on the warpath pretty quickly or he may wind up in an impeachment process or worse.
As a democrat I'm still not seeing this at all, Johan.
Yeah she was a very vulnerable candidate and yeah Sander's performance in the primary was strong (in the main because she WAS so weak).
But in a general election in the US of A, a nation that's mostly center/right and that continues to nurse a decades long paranoia of communism, a self avowed "democratic socialist" (who is also Jewish - let's not forget they're our number one targets for hate crimes) would have gotten crushed. That's just the way things are here. Doesn't matter that there's a noteworthy difference between democratic socialism and classic texbook socialism. Millions of american voters hear the "S" word and that's all it takes. Nuances be damned. In a general election in america if you're perceived as red you're dead. And the right would have buried him using that tactic, just as they attempted to do with Obama.
Winning Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvanie would have been enough for Hillary to win the election. In these 3 states, Trump won by less than 1%. Don't tell me Bernie wouldn't have won these 3 industrial states...
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