USPS on the Verge of Going Broke, Shutting Down

[maildude]

More like shemale dude

Yeah. I'd rather have a set of tits with my dick rather than losing my job.

 

[bahodeme]

75 is pretty impressive. Are you saying the pension/retirement salary they receive? I think Maildude laid out some interesting statistics in his post about the hierarchy of the organization and that whole scheme. It's like other organisations run by the government here as well. six figure salaries for people who have tenure and no real track record of great productivity. School unions engage in the same unethical practice. Christ Christie is dealing with that in NJ.

The example was for retirement. As far as management it's true the same as big corps get bonuses while laying off workers & outsourcing overseas. Maildude did show us major problems and a solution. This is the problem when you create a hybrid company with all the neg aspects of public and private sector & no positive ones.

 

[DOA82]

Wow, just, just wow. In a board full of misgoynistic racist bigoted shitheels, you just jumped to the top of the leader board. You are obviously way, way too much of a retard to understand that just because you passed some 'test' which was part of some job application, that doesn't mean you are an automatic hire. In fact your vile attitude as represented by your OP proves why you didn't get hired, because you are a shitfilled shitbag.

And I just love how you have absolutely no sympathy for those who will lose their jobs if the USPS does shut down, not to mention how such an event will fuck up the economy even more.

Die painfully in a fire, shitheel.

I like this guy - Maybe a quality new member!

 

[titsrock]

It's not like the USPS's only job is to deliver packages, and last I *heard* UPS and Fedex still use USPS to "assist" with some deliveries....

USPS has a massive infrastructure that even a merged UPS and Fedex would never come close to covering.

Again, this is another case of the Republicans loving to screw over rural and farming America...because people who live 80 miles from a MAJOR (top 120) market will be feeling the brunt of this. It won't be people living near cities.

The USPS probably should go to a M, W, Fri delivery schedule for the time being until the economy truly does pick back up, imo.

 

[D-rock]

There is also the consideration that the U.S. Postal Service is not a business, never has been, and never was meant to be one.

It's a needed government service, and while it's nice and appropriate for it to try and maintain as much fiscal balance as reasonable and to have people directly pay for the service as much as reasonable, it was never meant to be a profit making enterprise.

I don't see any more validity in wondering why the postal service might run a dept than to wonder why law enforcement agencies for example (or really almost any needed government agency for that manner) don't make a profit, which they don't. Yet, I don't see many people out there trying to get rid of the local police department unless it stays at least revenue neutral.

 

[titsrock]

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I think quite a few Tea Bagger Loonatarians would actually like to get rid of Fire and Police Depts and privatize those services too, tbh....

Good point about the Post Office not being a for profit business. Surely the most permanent way to "save" the Post Office is to address the nightmare that is Healthcare in this country...

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

One of the biggest problems is that people just don't need mail anymore. How many here have written or write letters anymore (or ever)? Bills are paid Online, emails are shot with ease, texts are sent regularly. The USPS is just facing the reality of the times. :2 cents:

I like this guy - Maybe a quality new member!

You him and Andronicus should get a room.

 

[titsrock]

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There's still a need for mail. I mail half my bills and pay the other half online. I don't want a digital magazine subscription...catalogs are better to thumb through in the flesh rather than aimlessly looking at shit online....

 

[Facetious]

Re: USPS on the Verge of Going Broke, Shutting Down

That's too bad, I have had good luck with the USPS over the years... OTOH, I have always wondered how they could afford to reward their top journeymen 6 weeks of paid vacation every year when you're lucky to get two weeks in the private sector.

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I think quite a few Tea Bagger Loonatarians would actually like to get rid of Fire and Police Depts and privatize those services too, tbh....

Oh, there goes the demagoguery douchie again...

Stop that! The president said that we're in a 'new age of civility'!
Follow your leader why don't you?!!! :cussing: :hammer:



:1orglaugh

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Re: USPS on the Verge of Going Broke, Shutting Down

That's too bad, I have had good luck with the USPS over the years... OTOH, I have always wondered how they could afford to reward their top journeymen 6 weeks of paid vacation every year when you're lucky to get two weeks in the private sector.




Oh, there goes the demagoguery douchie again...

Stop that! The president said that we're in a 'new age of civility'!
Follow your leader why don't you?!!! :cussing: :hammer:



:1orglaugh

Their delivery was pretty spot on. Only once or twice (in hundreds) that an item was damaged I didn't get into filing their BS forms because I dealt with getting the item back. Otherwise, their deliveries were generally prompt.

Mind you I am talking about large packages, not standard mail. There is no difference from them to UPS or Feds.

 

[Medic427]

I have always gone out of myway to use the US Postal service. I thought it was the American thing to do. I have been doing so since I mailed my first letter at 10 years old. I guess none of it helped them.

 

[MikeyK]

One of the biggest problems is that people just don't need mail anymore. How many here have written or write letters anymore (or ever)? Bills are paid Online, emails are shot with ease, texts are sent regularly. The USPS is just facing the reality of the times. :2 cents:


You him and Andronicus should get a room.

Not true at all. I use the postal service for a lot and most people do. They just don't realize it. If you send birthday cards, Christmas cards or anything else you use the post office.

The real problem is that the post office doesn't charge enough. They need to restructure their prices. Start making the price depend on the distance. If I want to mail a letter to someone in NY it cost X amount of cents. If I want to send the same thing to someone in California it costs the same thing. Doesn't make sense.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Not true at all. I use the postal service for a lot and most people do. They just don't realize it. If you send birthday cards, Christmas cards or anything else you use the post office.

The real problem is that the post office doesn't charge enough. They need to restructure their prices. Start making the price depend on the distance. If I want to mail a letter to someone in NY it cost X amount of cents. If I want to send the same thing to someone in California it costs the same thing. Doesn't make sense.

As I understand if not for the junkmail scheme they would already be in the shitter. That's partly to blame again - all that shit trash we get in the mail. It's really no skin off my back because I don't get much at all but when I see my mother gets close to a dozen every day from hustlers looking for a buck off gullible people it sticks in my craw.

They're just going to have to have a system where people go to their nearest office to get their letters. That's the way I'm seeing it.

 

[Hypergalaxy]

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

USPS employee here, I take it.

They have been sticking it to us for some time. Their packages/shipping rates have went up exponentially in just a matter of a few years. I know because I do A LOT of business with them and I've given them a lot of money during that time to have my packages shipped via USPS. And the hiring office I was at had RACIAL QUOTAS, so, fucking sue me anus if there is no love lost.

UPS, FedEx and DHS all do a better job anyway - and they will actually HIRE people! USPS: look at their legislature-approved bloated and corrupt contracts if you will, ignoramus. They brought this destruction upon themselves.

This guys name calling was unnecessary but he has a few good points. 1 being the fact that we do not need more unemployment in this country. Also you have no clue about UPS and Fedex rates compared to USPS, they are double the price for smaller packages. While I feel fedex is a better option for more important packages their prices can not justified for run of the mill packages.

One of the biggest problems is that people just don't need mail anymore. How many here have written or write letters anymore (or ever)? Bills are paid Online, emails are shot with ease, texts are sent regularly. The USPS is just facing the reality of the times. :2 cents:


You him and Andronicus should get a room.

Another ridiculous statement, what are you 17? Not everyones mail consists of magazines and letters. A lot of important mail including things just connected to your residence get sent thru usps. Just because you didnt qualify for a job at one location in no way means a 200+ year old postal service should be shut down. Please get over yourself.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

This guys name calling was unnecessary but he has a few good points. 1 being the fact that we do not need more unemployment in this country. Also you have no clue about UPS and Fedex rates compared to USPS, they are double the price for smaller packages. While I feel fedex is a better option for more important packages their prices can not justified for run of the mill packages.






Another ridiculous statement, what are you 17? Not everyones mail consists of magazines and letters. A lot of important mail including things just connected to your residence get sent thru usps. Just because you didnt qualify for a job at one location in no way means a 200+ year old postal service should be shut down. Please get over yourself.

GTFOH and join the list of bitches in this thread you cunt.

What do I know about USPS rates versus UPS and FedEx? I've shipped HUNDREDS of LARGE packages (minimum of $10.00) over the last seven years and given them more business than any granny buying a packet of little stamps every three months ever has.

USPS has their "flat rate" boxes which I have employed over that time, but those have went up crazy much over only the last few years. The largest was $5.95 just a few years ago and today it is close to $10.00. So don't fucking sit and tell me what I do and don't know about them shooing customers like me - their BIGGEST cash load - away. UPS and FedEx have very comparable prices. When the USPS instituted that ridiculous "bubble fee" several years ago it was a joke, and UPS and FedEx immediately received my business. I give a shit about the USPS.

Accuse me of being 17? Your grammar amounts to that of 14 year old. Try using punctuation every once in a while you fuck.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

And suck on this, you trick ass bitch:

US Postal Service Insolvent
Update: Want to cut back on the size of bloated government bureaucracy and save money for yourself and make the economy more efficient? Want to shrink an agency that employs over half a million people? Move all your banking, bill-pay, and other correspondence online. Then see at the bottom of this post for ways to cut your burden of junk mail. Some steps are easy to do. Also, every time you get junk mail see if they have a web site and then go to it and look for a way to cut off junk mail from them. I've just done this for half a dozen places.

The US Postal Service is bleeding billions of dollars because people are shifting to online everything (ordering, online bill-paying, and online correspondence with friends, businesses, governments, etc). In spite of this its most recent union agreement granted its overstaffed unionized workforce cost-of-living salary increases and raises and a no layoff clause. The USPS wants escape from having to set aside money for future retiree health care benefits.The USPS, unlike most employers, actually pays retiree health care benefits - at your expense. This Businessweek article takes a long look at the depth of the problems at the post office.

The USPS has stayed afloat by borrowing $12 billion from the U.S. Treasury. This year it will reach its statutory debt limit. After that, insolvency looms.

On Mar. 2, Postmaster General Patrick R. Donahoe warned Congress that his agency would default on $5.5 billion of health-care costs set aside for its future retirees scheduled for payment on Sept. 30 unless the government comes to the rescue. "At the end of the year, we are out of cash," Donahoe said. He noted that the unusual requirement was enacted five years ago by Congress before mail started to disappear.

Bricks-and-mortar post offices and hand-delivered mail are so 20th century. Why bail out a relic from the past? I rarely even look at what I get in the mail because months go by between the arrival pieces of mail that matters. In fact, as the ratio of useless-to-useful mail has gone up into the hundreds it is a problem that I do not want to look thru hundreds of mail items just to find one letter that matters. You have the same problem? Then on top of this we are supposed to subsidize our getting pelted with junk mail?

How can this be? Money politics. Bribery has bought (or at least rented) friends in the Democratic Party.

Democrats receive the vast majority of the contributions made by postal workers' unions, according to campaign finance records, so they tend to be sympathetic. President Barack Obama inserted a proposal in his 2012 budget to absolve the USPS of $4 billion of its retiree health-care liabilities in 2011.

The union's influence-buying has yielded them a no-layoffs contract. So Postmaster General Donahoe has to take a much more gradual approach to cost cutting.

He wants permission from Congress to cut weekly delivery from six to five days, which he says will save $3 billion a year. He says he wants to reduce the USPS’s headcount by 20 percent over the next five years through attrition; the agency’s union contracts prohibit layoffs.

Donahoe isn't legally allowed to close a post office just to save money. Really. The US government can't run a business. Donahoe wants to shift post offices into small presences in stores where store employees (non-union usually) can service the sporadic flow of customers. Makes sense. Could be done much faster and save billions of dollars. The article cites examples of European nations which have outsourced most post offices to convenience stores and other retail outlets. These European nations forced their postal services to compete. We need their reforms here. Read the full article for details.

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http://www.parapundit.com/archives/008107.html

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

This guys name calling was unnecessary but he has a few good points. 1 being the fact that we do not need more unemployment in this country. Also you have no clue about UPS and Fedex rates compared to USPS, they are double the price for smaller packages. While I feel fedex is a better option for more important packages their prices can not justified for run of the mill packages.MS"]Another ridiculous statement, what are you 17? Not everyones mail consists of magazines and letters. A lot of important mail including things just connected to your residence get sent thru usps. Just because you didnt qualify for a job at one location in no way means a 200+ year old postal service should be shut down. Please get over yourself.

A little heated on that last one, so my apologies, but It pretty much made my point. USPS is living its last days. We're going to have to make due to a new system in the near future. Imagine a decade from now? It will be quite a different picture regarding the Postal Service.

 

[Facetious]

As I understand if not for the junkmail scheme they would already be in the shitter.

I hate direct mail ads because they often have my name and address printed on the envelope... and if that isn't bad enough, I'll sometimes find my name and address printed on the material inside of the envelope! :ShRedSHREDShReD!:
The absolute worst is when I get those envelopes that are about 1/4'' thick, you know, those envelopes that are loaded with material inside? Yea, well, I open the damned things up and there are about 500 return address labels also with my name on them that I never requested in the first place! ... those fuckers and their non profit orgs trying to put us on the spot and make us feel guilty for not paying for their 'free' gift. More :shredshredshred!:

It takes time out of my day to destroy this material :flame:

 

[Hypergalaxy]

A little heated on that last one, so my apologies, but It pretty much made my point. USPS is living its last days. We're going to have to make due to a new system in the near future. Imagine a decade from now? It will be quite a different picture regarding the Postal Service.

Ya think? Bottom line I also do a lot of shipping(and punctuating if you read my posts) and for regular mail and small packages usps is the cheaper way to go. I am starting to sense a strong hatred in you for usps.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Ya think? Bottom line I also do a lot of shipping(and punctuating if you read my posts) and for regular mail and small packages usps is the cheaper way to go. I am starting to sense a strong hatred in you for usps.

At first it was to quote the newb who has already has been sucked off by two other people here for putting me on blast, then these claims I didn't know a bloody thing about USPS and their competitors and then the little cheap shot about '17' which kind of ticket me off. I've dealt with them quite a bit close to a decade now so I have a strong opinion about their practices. I've brought up the continued increase in costs at USPS here and there and they've told me to "contact my U.S. Congressional representative" to bring any grievances up and basically I just laughed my way out the door. Like they would ever do anything. And they don't make things easy for many people either; go to any branch and sit in line there and you consistently see upset people. I don't have a problem with you dude just don't say you know the extent of my everyday dealings in my business affairs. :wave2: