trump's Coronavirus Failures and Lies

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Back to the regular programming. Trump: “I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen.” It was only a test of the media.

The spinoff:
Was Mitch just testing the media when he suggested bankruptcy for states rather than bailing them out? Let's bail out banks and corporations who take risks and lose, but fuck the states! This is where he draws the line of borrowing 'from future generations.'

MM: "I would certainly be in favor of allowing states to use the bankruptcy route. It saves some cities. And there’s no good reason for it not to be available. My guess is their first choice would be for the federal government to borrow money from future generations to send it down to them now so they don’t have to do that. That’s not something I’m going to be in favor of.”
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Obama Admin Funded China's Coronavirus Research, Gave Millions in Taxpayer Money to Wuhan Lab
https://www.westernjournal.com/repo...6v8E451mf2GiXTSC3GwdKFPeRxiDLeG8YX8ZoFrshsOWk

The US government funded research into coronaviruses with an institute close to the origin of such viruses. One would presume they were trying to find ways of attacking these viruses.That sounds like a reasonable thing to do. The article said the total was $7.1 million and the total going to WIV was unknown because WIV was collaborating with other institutions. [Not to be snarky, but taxpayers have spent over $100 million for Trump to golf. He has a stressful job and needs to relax - I'm fine with it. Just adding a little perspective at how small $7 million is to the Federal budget.]

The article states: "Scientists at the lab conducted research on coronavirus-infected bats funded by the U.S. National Institutes of Health grant. The findings were published in 2017 in a study on the NIH’s website titled: “Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus.”

It was a good commentary.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
I didn't focus on Jews. I only know more about Russia than the others because thats period of time I'm more interested in.
Jews didn't like the Czar because he put rules on them. How do you think so many wound up in Germany? Its because most countries didn't want them including England and France, so they went to Germany because those evil Germans took them in. And they never had it so good.
Churchill? Why do I think he was evil? Churchill wanted war and he and he led England and all the stolen and enslaved English territories into war and millions of "his people" died and were maimed.
He worked for the Bank of England. He was their bitch. They love war, its their bread and butter. They loaned the money for the war to both sides then made the loser pay it back. Thats what they do. They bankroll the whole thing and cut off the country they want to lose at the end. Then make them pay it all back by using the winners as their muscle.
Then they finance the billions of dollars in rebuilding everything. Bank of England, Federal Reserve, all the same owners. They were the only winner in both World wars.
YEs we are getting off topic.
I will stand corrected, but please forgive my oversight. His father ruled from 1971-2000 and he assumed power when his father died. It was certainly hereditary.

We just disagree - I don't need to make anything up. You showed your hand (and answered my question about who you think 'they' are) when you responded to Johan. I wonder why you focused on the jews as the oppressed people in czarist Russia and why you seem to know more about the Russian Revolution than the other two. The antipathy toward Churchill is just the cherry on top. It's a classic view - not very original at all. [But we're digressing from Trump's Coronavirus Failures and Lies.]
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Interesting polling numbers: https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...-trumps-handling-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

"71 percent of Americans are more concerned about lifting restrictions too quickly than too slowly, and an identical share said they want public officials to be capable of mass testing before lifting restrictions on normal activities."
Ah "too quickly". Thats an opinion right?
None of the people who you think are looking out for your best interests are looking out for your best interest. You should know that by now.
They don't care about you at all.
That article you posted is focused on how people feel about Trump regarding the corona.
All those polls, They can tell you any numbers they want. Its called propaganda and they do it well.
71% are worried about opening too soon? Bullshit.
71% want to wait for the government to impose mandatory testing on everyone before letting them live their lives again?
Huge pile of Bullshit.
They want people to think everyones ok with forced testing and perhaps vaccinations. Because they know most people are sheep to be herded. If they think most people are ok with it then they will go along. So they lie to them and tell them that 71% want mandatory testing. Its so easy to do.
See thats what the hold up is right now. Thats what they are waiting for. The plan is to impliment a system of forced testing on everybody. That has been the plan from the start coming from their own mouths. All of them repeating the same thing like parrots.
They could impliment it now, but theyre waiting for people to become so desperate and SCARED that they comply to it. Meanwhile to buy time they keep telling us fake numbers, the testing centers are "overrun" and the hospitals are "War Zones" and every other thing they can do to frighten and confuse everyone. Like this bullshit article is doing.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Ah "too quickly". Thats an opinion right?
None of the people who you think are looking out for your best interests are looking out for your best interest. You should know that by now.
They don't care about you at all.
That article you posted is focused on how people feel about Trump regarding the corona. What a great distraction. Divide the people regarding this thing by using Trump as the wedge. How original.
All those polls, They can tell you any numbers they want. Its called propaganda and they do it well.
71% are worried about opening too soon? Bullshit.
71% want to wait for the government to impose mandatory testing on everyone before letting them live their lives again?
Huge pile of Bullshit.
They want people to think everyones ok with forced testing and perhaps vaccinations. Because they know most people are sheep to be herded. If they think most people are ok with it then they will go along. So they lie to them and tell them that 71% want mandatory testing. Its so easy to do.
See thats what the hold up is right now. Thats what they are waiting for. The plan is to impliment a system of forced testing on everybody. That has been the plan from the start coming from their own mouths. All of them repeating the same thing like parrots.
They could impliment it now, but theyre waiting for people to become so desperate and SCARED that they comply to it. Meanwhile to buy time they keep telling us fake numbers, the testing centers are "overrun" and the hospitals are "War Zones" and every other thing they can do to frighten and confuse everyone. Like this bullshit article is doing.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I didn't focus on Jews. I only know more about Russia than the others because thats period of time I'm more interested in.
Jews didn't like the Czar because he put rules on them. How do you think so many wound up in Germany? Its because most countries didn't want them including England and France, so they went to Germany because those evil Germans took them in. And they never had it so good.
Churchill? Why do I think he was evil? Churchill wanted war and he and he led England and all the stolen and enslaved English territories into war and millions of "his people" died and were maimed.
He worked for the Bank of England. He was their bitch. They love war, its their bread and butter. They loaned the money for the war to both sides then made the loser pay it back. Thats what they do. They bankroll the whole thing and cut off the country they want to lose at the end. Then make them pay it all back by using the winners as their muscle.
Then they finance the billions of dollars in rebuilding everything. Bank of England, Federal Reserve, all the same owners. They were the only winner in both World wars.
YEs we are getting off topic.
Your view is so classic. I've heard it stated so many times it's not worth repeating or rebutting. We'll go in circles which have neither an end nor a point.

With your interest in the period you know Neville Chamberlain was PM when WW2 started not Churchill.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
Your view is so classic. I've heard it stated so many times it's not worth repeating or rebutting. We'll go in circles which have neither an end nor a point.

With your interest in the period you know Neville Chamberlain was PM when WW2 started not Churchill.
A wise route. As experience with some of us shows, there is no point introducing evidence or facts into some communications (I won't call thgem "discussions", because, yes, they do not really qualify as such anymore, at some point)

Let me, as a german, say this:

The jews came to Germany in the early twentieth century, because they "had it so good"?

That is an unusual way of describing the Shoa.
 
The jews came to Germany in the early twentieth century, because they "had it so good"?

That is an unusual way of describing the Shoa.
I think he meant that this is what happened between 1917 and 1933, between the Russia Revolution and the Third Reich.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Your view is so classic. I've heard it stated so many times it's not worth repeating or rebutting. We'll go in circles which have neither an end nor a point.

With your interest in the period you know Neville Chamberlain was PM when WW2 started not Churchill.
Of course I know that. Sept 1st 1939 he was Prime minister and he was suffering from cancer. That doesn't mean he was the real man in power just like Trump isn't now. And it doesn't mean anything I said about Churchill was wrong.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
I think he meant that this is what happened between 1917 and 1933, between the Russia Revolution and the Third Reich.
Actually way before that. From around 1871 and even years earlier many jews came to germany, a good portion of them from Russia. And they thrived there. While the good guys England and United States were out there stealing peoples lands, killing and genociding and enslaving their inhabitants and denying them rights , Those evil Germans were welcoming Jews into their newly formed country. And that Supafly is fact.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Of course I know that. Sept 1st 1939 he was Prime minister and he was suffering from cancer. That doesn't mean he was the real man in power just like Trump isn't now. And it doesn't mean anything I said about Churchill was wrong.
Yes, it is wrong, but you appear to have everything under control. I revert back to my prior comment "I've heard it stated so many times it's not worth repeating or rebutting. We'll go in circles which have neither an end nor a point."
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Ok then Churchill was a great man. Is that better? Because I didn't state that dying from cancer at the time Chamberlain was the Prime Minister on the day England declared war does not mean anything I said about Churchill was wrong. That would be illogical.
See g, I think we differ in this sense: I look at all sides of things, I look at specific actions, I look at motivations. Basically I look at the Big Picture to form my beliefs in things. To me its not Black and White.
On this subject England, backed and even controlled by the privately owned Bank of England owned by the Rothschild family who's real last name was Bauer, did some very horrendous things to many millions of human beings of mostly brown or black skin pigmentation for several hundred years prior to Churchill coming to power.
By horrendous things I mean the stealing of lands by force, mass murder, and enslavement. They were doing this right up to at least into the 20th century.
So to me and I think anyone who can think clearly both WWI and II were not as simple as Good Guys vs Bad Guys. England under the command of Churchill committed a lot of war crimes against German civilians during the war and also German soldiers after the surrender. Atrocities against humanity.
I believe you simply believe whatever your government tells you without questioning any of it.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Ok then Churchill was a great man. Is that better? Because I didn't state that dying from cancer at the time Chamberlain was the Prime Minister on the day England declared war does not mean anything I said about Churchill was wrong. That would be illogical.
See g, I think we differ in this sense: I look at all sides of things, I look at specific actions, I look at motivations. Basically I look at the Big Picture to form my beliefs in things. To me its not Black and White.
On this subject England, backed and even controlled by the privately owned Bank of England owned by the Rothschild family who's real last name was Bauer, did some very horrendous things to many millions of human beings of mostly brown or black skin pigmentation for several hundred years prior to Churchill coming to power.
By horrendous things I mean the stealing of lands by force, mass murder, and enslavement. They were doing this right up to at least into the 20th century.
So to me and I think anyone who can think clearly both WWI and II were not as simple as Good Guys vs Bad Guys. England under the command of Churchill committed a lot of war crimes against German civilians during the war and also German soldiers after the surrender. Atrocities against humanity.
I believe you simply believe whatever your government tells you without questioning any of it.

Your arrogance in your rightness is quite off-putting. You state it's not black and white, then go on to make it black and white. Referencing the Rothschild's is - again - quite unoriginal. It does give some insight into your worldview. You are not looking at all sides, but the side that fits into your view.

For the third time - we could go on with neither an end nor a point.

I certainly don't have a whitewashed viewpoint on anything. We can agree on something here: Neither of the wars was good versus bad. It was a war: You cannot ignore the atrocities committed by the Germans, Soviets, US, British, Japanese, etc.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
If you're up for Big Ag - Iowa and Nebraska will be refusing unemployment benefits for workers who don't show up for work. Given the outbreaks at certain plants in South Dakota, Colorado and some other midwestern areas, are the employers going to accept liability for infected workers? Or will they be trying to evade liability? They're already putting feelers out for laying off the risk to governments or back to the employees. Just wait until plaintiff and personal injury attorneys get involved. This will be asbestos on steroids.

Trump in a familiar position: bending over for Big Ag (piling on after a few states starting getting tough on workers) by issuing an Executive Order:
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobb...y-groups-applaud-trump-for-keeping-processing

Trump (4/28/2020): "We’re working with Tyson. We’re going to sign an executive order today, I believe, and that will solve any liability problems where they had certain liability problems and we’ll be in very good shape." Who pays then? Liability doesn't just disappear, it gets transferred somewhere else..
 

Harpsman

Light one for Me
Ok then Churchill was a great man. Is that better? Because I didn't state that dying from cancer at the time Chamberlain was the Prime Minister on the day England declared war does not mean anything I said about Churchill was wrong. That would be illogical.
See g, I think we differ in this sense: I look at all sides of things, I look at specific actions, I look at motivations. Basically I look at the Big Picture to form my beliefs in things. To me its not Black and White.
On this subject England, backed and even controlled by the privately owned Bank of England owned by the Rothschild family who's real last name was Bauer, did some very horrendous things to many millions of human beings of mostly brown or black skin pigmentation for several hundred years prior to Churchill coming to power.
By horrendous things I mean the stealing of lands by force, mass murder, and enslavement. They were doing this right up to at least into the 20th century.
So to me and I think anyone who can think clearly both WWI and II were not as simple as Good Guys vs Bad Guys. England under the command of Churchill committed a lot of war crimes against German civilians during the war and also German soldiers after the surrender. Atrocities against humanity.
I believe you simply believe whatever your government tells you without questioning any of it.
England also carried out these actions against their nearest neighbours who just happened to be white skinned.

But we're going off topic.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
This is classic. The Pences are being well-behaved apprentices. I wonder if they are worried about getting fired this summer (i.e., dumped from the ticket)?

The VP defends not wearing the mask despite the Mayo Clinic allegedly providing him with their patient/visitor guidance:
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...ot-wearing-face-mask-during-mayo-clinic-visit

Then his wife goes on Fox & Friends and pleads ignorance for him:
https://www.twincities.com/2020/04/30/pences-wife-says-he-was-unaware-of-mask-policy-during-visit/
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Good for Pence. And good for our FREE PRESS looking out for us as always by reporting this.

More proof that EVERYTHING is scripted. Everything indeed.
Watch, Puke,Repeat.
Even if everyone in the world watched it most still wouldn't accept the truth.

I think this is very important for The Citizens of Earth to know about. The plan to vaccinate everyone by 2020
Brought to us by Bill Gates & Friends, including Mr Fauci.
Seems like the Corona came just in time before they had to change the name.

Global Vaccine Action Plan 2011 - 2020
https://www.afro.who.int/publicatio...y17kDASSNZPX1jQz2WLMPpCtSwPbWgqc6HYeZloWhDV_8

And who can forget this classic?

Fraudian Slip?

Looky here, seems Italy and NY have identical hospitals right down to the same people in them
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=XASN7G842DUS
 
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