Trump : We need to play by ISIS rules, not ours

Trump on waterboarding: US should stop 'playing by the rules' in Isis battle


Republican frontrunner says laws must be reworked because they ‘are not working’: ‘We talk about waterboarding like it’s the worst thing in the world’


Donald Trump has reiterated his determination that the US should stop “playing by the rules” in its fight against Islamic State militants.

“We’re talking about waterboarding like it’s the worst thing in the world,” he said in an interview broadcast on Sunday, adding: “I think we have to increase the laws because the laws are not working.”

The Republican presidential frontrunner spoke to CBS in Florida on Saturday night, after he won the Kentucky caucus and Louisiana primary.

Trump leads the Republican presidential race from the Texas senator Ted Cruz, who won in Maine and Kansas on Saturday. Cruz has advocated bringing back waterboarding and carpet-bombing Isis targets in Syria and Iraq.

This week, a group of leading Republican figures on national security said they would not follow orders from a President Trump who followed policies he has advocated on the campaign trail, such as waterboarding and the targeting of the families of terror suspects, that contravened international law.

Trump subsequently rowed back on the issue, saying in a statement: “I will not order a military officer to disobey the law. It is clear that as president I will be bound by laws just like all Americans and I will meet those responsibilities.”

On the campaign trail in Kansas and Florida on Saturday, though, he changed his position again, saying he would “have those laws broadened”.

Speaking to CBS in the interview broadcast on Sunday, Trump said: “We cannot beat Isis. We should beat Isis very quickly. General Patton would have had Isis down in about three days. General Douglas MacArthur. We are playing by a different set of rules.

He added: “[T]he Isis people chop off the heads, and they then go back to their homes and they talk. And they hear we’re talking about waterboarding like it’s the worst thing in the world, and they’ve just drowned 100 people and chopped off 50 heads. They must think we are a little bit on the weak side.

“We are playing by rules, but they have no rules.”

Trump was asked if “playing by rules” was what “separates us from the savages?”

“No,” he said, “
I don’t think so … we have to beat the savages.”

He was asked: “By being savages?”

Trump said: “No, well. We have to play the game the way they’re playing the game. You’re not going to win if we’re soft and they have no rules. Now, I want to stay within the laws. I want to do all of that, but I think we have to increase the laws because the laws are not working.”
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/06/donald-trump-torture-waterboarding-isis


Last time I checked, the Roosevelt, Churchill or Einsenhower did not triumphed over Hitler and the Nazis by putting prisonners in concentration camps, by murdering the families of german soldiers or by using the japoanese that lived in the US as lab-rats.

If you need to play by the rules of the enemy to win against him, what's the point of winning ?
The moment you start playing by their rules, they won.
 
we should follow France's lead.


the slaughtered like sheep approach is effective.


we need to follow the chicago democrat way.

If Obama just looked at ISIS like he looks at the tea party this would've been all over by now.
 
He said we should expand the laws. The key word being "laws"

You can't have rules of engagement against an enemy that doesn't follow rules or are not guided by laws.

Trump 2016




(Starting on Wednesday)
 
we just need a president like Roosevelt who will throw these suspect groups into internment camps.

yes, I'm mocking you democrats.
 
"Get ' em out!!!! Get 'em the hell out!!!™"

I am going to trademark that phrase since I am also going to market T-shirts with that phrase on it. I'll quit work and sell them outside of Trump rallies. Not joking.

I'll be retired by August.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I would have thought that after NOT learning how to play by the enemies rules, in two separate conflicts in South East Asia, we would have realized that maybe we do need to be a little less politically correct, and a little more.............."who gives a fuck, we're at fucking war". I also realize, we as a civilized nation, would try and set a better example, but sometimes the acts of provocation, justify the lack of compassion.
 
WWII vets have recalled American soldiers being gutted and decapitated by Japanese soldiers.

They said they could hear their screams. It's fucking war. Respond accordingly.

After we dropped the first atomic bomb, we demanded an unconditional surrender. They refused. We dropped the other one, the only one we had left and the rest is history. Japan did not know of course if we had 50 more or not.

Political correctness is damaging our ability to wage war and may be the most damaging aspect of the PC movement.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I was actually referring to Korea and Viet Nam. I think you will agree, by our previous standards, and record of wins and loses....those 2 pretty much were the 2 that sting the most.
 
WWII vets have recalled American soldiers being gutted and decapitated by Japanese soldiers.

They said they could hear their screams. It's fucking war. Respond accordingly.

After we dropped the first atomic bomb, we demanded an unconditional surrender. They refused. We dropped the other one, the only one we had left and the rest is history. Japan did not know of course if we had 50 more or not.

Political correctness is damaging our ability to wage war and may be the most damaging aspect of the PC movement.

Political correctness is apologizing for dropping the atomic bombs at the same time not asking Japan to apologize for Nanking or all the other atrocities they committed throughout the pacific.

Not to mention the firebombing of Tokyo killed more people than both atomic bombs combined.
 
Just because other people don't do the right thing it shouldn't be an excuse for you not doing it
Just because some people do despicable thingss it doesn't make them less despicable when you do them
 
Just because other people don't do the right thing it shouldn't be an excuse for you not doing it
Just because some people do despicable thingss it doesn't make them less despicable when you do them

Oh please stop it. In war. you crush the enemy. Why in the hell am I discussing this with a French surrender monkey?

No offense georges.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Despite the Geneva Convention, "rules" being applied to war are by their very nature, patently ridiculous. They are ordinarily made to address atrocities post-facto. Problem is, whoever decides what constitutes an atrocity is a matter of conjecture that is typically determined by the victor in the aftermath of the conflict. It's war itself that is the atrocity. Interpretations after the fact are totally subjective.

Trump has no chance of gaining a majority of the electorate vote in November in my opinion. He is way too polarizing unless an apathetic opposition voting base stays home on election day. However, his anti-establishment message (much as is Bernie Sanders' message on the opposite side of the spectrum), rings a serious bell with a very dissatisfied American citizenry. These are scary times....our federal leaders (Obama most prominently included) have disappointed us with their inability to get things done and that is what is pissing everyone off....no matter your political leanings. No one is happy with what is going on right now. Things are just beginning....this is likely to get much more ugly as time goes on. I fear greatly for our future.
 
Despite the Geneva Convention, "rules" being applied to war are by their very nature, patently ridiculous. They are ordinarily made to address atrocities post-facto. Problem is, whoever decides what constitutes an atrocity is a matter of conjecture that is typically determined by the victor in the aftermath of the conflict. It's war itself that is the atrocity. Interpretations after the fact are totally subjective.

Trump has no chance of gaining a majority of the electorate vote in November in my opinion. He is way too polarizing unless an apathetic opposition voting base stays home on election day. However, his anti-establishment message (much as is Bernie Sanders' message on the opposite side of the spectrum), rings a serious bell with a very dissatisfied American citizenry. These are scary times....our federal leaders (Obama most prominently included) have disappointed us with their inability to get things done and that is what is pissing everyone off....no matter your political leanings. No one is happy with what is going on right now. Things are just beginning....this is likely to get much more ugly as time goes on. I fear greatly for our future.

People do not seem to learn from history they remain reactionary and guided by their own impatience and anger.
We are so insecure in our own skin we cling to anything to distract us from our mortality.
In the end it may just be who we are and who we always shall be.
 
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