The religion of peace spreads its message to Chatanooga

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
May the memory of the fallen Marines be a blessing.

It's time to re-arm our armed forces.
 
The JV Team played an away game yesterday.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
May our thoughts and prayers be with their family and friends. The Muslim extremists claim martyrdom on their behalf. If their Allah is the same God who reigns over all (and I am not at all convinced that's the case but let's imagine it is for the time being), how can the sacrifice of the perpetrator mean any more to Him than that of the victims? I too am baffled by the lack of outrage on behalf of the Muslim community. I know many Muslims who vehemently disagree with this violence in the name of Allah yet....why do they not speak out? Why do they not demand control of their own faith? How can they allow their faith to be so blatantly perverted by the lunatic fringe without protesting in the strongest possible fashion?

No one can blame non-Muslims for expecting this type of accountability to go unanswered. Islam is not evil but there is a very vocal and demonstrative element of that faith that does represent pure evil. It must be recognized and eradicated. If not, I fear that ultimately anyone who calls themselves a disciple of Islam will be deemed guilty by association. As Edmund Burke so wisely stated so many years ago, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." It's way past time for all good men of Islamic faith to desist from doing nothing and demand their faith back. I am as tolerant an individual as you can find but I am absolutely fed up with this garbage. If Islam wants to be saved in the USA, it needs to save itself.
 

GodsEmbryo

Closed Account
[...] Islam is not evil but there is a very vocal and demonstrative element of that faith that does represent pure evil. It must be recognized and eradicated. [...]
If Islam wants to be saved in the USA, it needs to save itself.

Unfortunately it doesn't help when hundreds of verses in the Quran call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. In the Quran muslims who do not join the fight are called hypocrites, close to unbelievers (maybe this plays a part in why there is no massive protest from muslims against extremism?). Many of these verses are not restrained by historical context or surrounding text (as for example in the old testament), meaning they are word of Allah. Because of that I'm not to happy with the sentence "Islam is not evil" as there is something fundamentally wrong with the ideology. However most muslims are moderate and interpret the Quran in a personal way, much like christians do with the bible, so I understand why you might say it's not evil. But the thing is that I don't see how a religion with an ideology that is so war-based could save itself and portray itself as a peaceful religion.
 
simple as fuck, even we here should start killing everyone who has a beard and is clothed like a fucking arab retard before they kill us. I am so scared by those people appearing here. They are about to do some stupid shit.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
That's not the answer. We allegedly live in a free society where people can worship any or no God they choose. Shooting people because they look different or worship a deity you don't believe in would make us no better than the Nazis. Many of the terrorists we will have to deal with will be clean shaven (the Boston bombers, for instance), Caucasian converts. Recent converts to Islam are usually radicalized pretty easily.

Being scared of these assholes is exactly what they want. Terrorists terrorize for a reason, even if it's not clear or rational. I choose to mourn the casualties and then I choose to be angry. It's still not the best emotion but it's a better reaction than fear. Don't give them that power to get into your head and make weak decisions.
 
That's not the answer. We allegedly live in a free society where people can worship any or no God they choose. Shooting people because they look different or worship a deity you don't believe in would make us no better than the Nazis. Many of the terrorists we will have to deal with will be clean shaven (the Boston bombers, for instance), Caucasian converts. Recent converts to Islam are usually radicalized pretty easily.

Being scared of these assholes is exactly what they want. Terrorists terrorize for a reason, even if it's not clear or rational. I choose to mourn the casualties and then I choose to be angry. It's still not the best emotion but it's a better reaction than fear. Don't give them that power to get into your head and make weak decisions.

well majority muslims here oppose them. most radicals are people who had criminal background and overnight they became the most devoted muslims, they act like they are more muslim than us, they would atach you physically if you say them they are wrong. I think it all should start from the muslims, we need to oppose them. I think your country is not doing enough.
 
We do not have the politicians with the spine to do it now but there needs to be serious consideration of a moratorium on all immigration like we had in the past except for special circumstances. It can either happen now or forced upon us later, but it will happen. I just hope we do it by being proactive instead of waiting for an event so catastrophic or a wave of terror that it leaves us no alternative. I am not just saying those from the middle east but all immigration. There will be those that balk at this for many reasons but the United States is not obligated to accept any would-be immigrant, student, workers or tourist. Stopping it now, will at least allow us to get a handle on the situation as it stands now.
 

Rane1071

For the EMPEROR!!
Yeah I was just reading about this. Damn tragic.
I especially hate these type of crimes, whatever the motive. I mean, "I'm a pyschotic douchebag cockchugger, so I'm gonna' destroy other peoples lives because mine sucks".

I hope this fucker ends up with 72 syphilitic 'transgender' whores instead of the supposed virgins.
(no offense meant to transgendered whores, syphilitic or otherwise of course)

RIP to the Marines and my condolences to their families.
 
We do not have the politicians with the spine to do it now but there needs to be serious consideration of a moratorium on all immigration like we had in the past except for special circumstances. It can either happen now or forced upon us later, but it will happen. I just hope we do it by being proactive instead of waiting for an event so catastrophic or a wave of terror that it leaves us no alternative. I am not just saying those from the middle east but all immigration. There will be those that balk at this for many reasons but the United States is not obligated to accept any would-be immigrant, student, workers or tourist. Stopping it now, will at least allow us to get a handle on the situation as it stands now.

what if an american, becomes terrorist by accepting that ideology thru internet or so?
 
Easier to deal with first 2 rattlesnakes in your yard before you turn over the rock to reveal the others.
 
That's not the answer. We allegedly live in a free society where people can worship any or no God they choose. Shooting people because they look different or worship a deity you don't believe in would make us no better than the Nazis. Many of the terrorists we will have to deal with will be clean shaven (the Boston bombers, for instance), Caucasian converts. Recent converts to Islam are usually radicalized pretty easily.

Being scared of these assholes is exactly what they want. Terrorists terrorize for a reason, even if it's not clear or rational. I choose to mourn the casualties and then I choose to be angry. It's still not the best emotion but it's a better reaction than fear. Don't give them that power to get into your head and make weak decisions.

Well said.
But let's not give them the power to get into our heads and make irrational decisions either.

I know many Muslims who vehemently disagree with this violence in the name of Allah yet....why do they not speak out?

I can source you to thousands of examples where they have and do.
Unfortunately they don't seem to be considered particularly newsworthy.
One fairly recent example that did create headlines was the King Of Jordan's response to the ISIS murder of a captured Jordanian pilot.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Unfortunately it doesn't help when hundreds of verses in the Quran call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. In the Quran muslims who do not join the fight are called hypocrites, close to unbelievers (maybe this plays a part in why there is no massive protest from muslims against extremism?). Many of these verses are not restrained by historical context or surrounding text (as for example in the old testament), meaning they are word of Allah. Because of that I'm not to happy with the sentence "Islam is not evil" as there is something fundamentally wrong with the ideology. However most muslims are moderate and interpret the Quran in a personal way, much like christians do with the bible, so I understand why you might say it's not evil. But the thing is that I don't see how a religion with an ideology that is so war-based could save itself and portray itself as a peaceful religion.

The highlight part of your statement is more to my point. One can quote the Bible or Quran to justify damned-near anything they are already predisposed to believe.

http://islam.about.com/cs/jesus/f/christians.htm

I can source you to thousands of examples where they have and do.
Unfortunately they don't seem to be considered particularly newsworthy.
One fairly recent example that did create headlines was the King Of Jordan's response to the ISIS murder of a captured Jordanian pilot.

Then they should be demonstrative enough to make themselves newsworthy. Otherwise, I fear that more radical solutions will be sought (i.e. internment camps, etc) as these random acts of terror continue to proliferate.
 
Then they should be demonstrative enough to make themselves newsworthy. Otherwise, I fear that more radical solutions will be sought (i.e. internment camps, etc) as these random acts of terror continue to proliferate.

I don't see us making that same mistake again.
Although it is worrying that so many self-proclaimed champions of The Constitution are advocating blatantly unconstitutional solutions.
 
Let them attack again on a 911 or Pearl Harbor level and we will fix that whole constitutional issue with an article V convention of the states.
 
I expect there will be more 9/11 type attacks. That's the fix we're in. And it's not hard to see how we got here.
But if we inter or deport law abiding muslim American citizens as a result, that strikes me as cowardice, along with a flagrant negation of our principles. It would also equate to a HUGE propaganda victory for our enemies. It's the kind of reaction Ace warned against in post 8.
What are we going to say to the several thousand muslim Americans who have and are serving honorably in our military? Get the fuck out? This isn't your home?
 
Not the ones that are not natural born. Give them a choice, leave or internment Camp. We can at least monitor the others. If any people have the right to hold a grudge it is the Japanese. They seem to fit in and contribute instead of stirring shit. I do believe those camps got their attention. Well that and Big Boy and Little Man. or whatever they named them
 
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