The I Told You So Obama Will Fuck Up Thread

Wasn't the bailout package written during the Bushie Era?

The 1st part of it was. And I completely disagree with it as well. I have never claimed that TARP was a good idea. That was fuck up that Bush did, never said it wasn't.
 
Pelosi is not a part of Obama's administration....but don't ever let the facts get in the way of a good lie.:rolleyes:

But Rahm and the Clinton whore are. Fanboying obama and calling him America "so called " Godsaver is not a way of telling the truth especially with the poor and unrealistic decisions Obama has taken.
 
The 1st part of it was. And I completely disagree with it as well. I have never claimed that TARP was a good idea. That was fuck up that Bush did, never said it wasn't.

Well the evidence is against you on this one. Not only were many of these financial institutions saved as a result of TARP they are now profitable enough to begin repaying it in less than a year. With respect to the financial institutions, it absolutely worked for protecting them against failing.

When other business sectors make a come back at least the country's financial backbone will be in place to help support them.
 
Young students, the poor, the teachers, ghetto people, alot of people who have families in the south american countries voted for him to win, so it is not everyone who wanted Obama to win but mostly the poor and the not so fiscally advantaged social classes.

52% of voters earning $200,000 or more per year voted for him, despite the fact he made it abundantly clear those earning 250K or more were slated for a tax increase.
 
Well the evidence is against you on this one. Not only were many of these financial institutions saved as a result of TARP they are now profitable enough to begin repaying it in less than a year. With respect to the financial institutions, it absolutely worked for protecting them against failing.

When other business sectors make a come back at least the country's financial backbone will be in place to help support them.

It has not helped them, it has only postponed the inevitable. Do you really think the company is going to change the way they run their business b/c the gov't gave them yours and my money? It saved them from going out of business for the time being. If a company cannot make a profit, then by all means let it go out of business. Bankruptcy is the market's way of cleansing itself. The market does not need the gov't to decide who can and who cannot succeed in the world. and that is exactly what the bailouts have done.
 
52% of voters earning $200,000 or more per year voted for him, despite the fact he made it abundantly clear those earning 250K or more were slated for a tax increase.

Shhhh....like I said before..some of these people have very good lies going and we dare not intrude on their make believe realities with any facts.:rofl:

Yep, Iowa is full of Muslims and ghettos...:rolleyes:
 
52% of voters earning $200,000 or more per year voted for him, despite the fact he made it abundantly clear those earning 250K or more were slated for a tax increase.

Mind if I ask where you got these numbers?
 
Young students, the poor, the teachers, ghetto people, alot of people who have families in the south american countries voted for him to win, so it is not everyone who wanted Obama to win but mostly the poor and the not so fiscally advantaged social classes. When you grew up in a poor hood, you will vote for someone who has lived in the hood or who has lived in the hood while being tight on money. Are the students, the poor, the teachers, ghetto people, alot of people who have families in the south american countries voted for him to win representing the whole population of the USA??? Not as far as I know. What may be good for them may not be good for the others. His program was mostly based on a marketing image and the so called change isn't a change but just making things worse than they were. Trying to implement social security and assisting people socially is completely unamerican, you must be a bloody socialist to want that. Socialism has no place in USA and the OBAMA administration needs to get a massive ass kicking.

I'm sorry this is just wrong. Without bothering to look at any numbers look at the electoral map of the USA from the last presidential election. Note which states are blue and which states are red. Now apart from the glaring fact that the red states do a handy job of covering most of the confederacy - make of that what you will - would you then say that the states that went against Obama were noted for being the more affluent.
 

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I'm sorry this is just wrong. Without bothering to look at any numbers look at the electoral map of the USA from the last presidential election. Note which states are blue and which states are red. Now apart from the glaring fact that the red states do a handy job of covering most of the confederacy - make of that what you will - would you then say that the states that went against Obama were noted for being the more affluent.

What is your point? Is there a point...?
Red States...do you really have the naive view that everyone in a Red State voted Republican, and everyone in a Blue State voted Dem?
What does that insinuate..."make of that what you will"...Southern states are racist, or poor, or just beneath the wonderful smart well-off Blue State voters? You are really an elitist, or a wanna-be at any rate.
Was there a real point to that post, or were you just sniping for some personal need to feel "above" someone?
There aren't supposed to be any "classes" here when it comes to voting, laws, and government services.
Your attitude seems to indicate there is a class structure that has some kind of relevance to how the election went...
 
The Demographics are pretty consistent ...

The Demographics that are caught by various polls are pretty consistent in every Presidential Election.

Majority figures since I started watching the exit polls in 1998 ...

Education:
- Democrat voters: HS Diploma or Advanced Graduate through PhD
- Republican voters: 2-4 College Graduates or lower Graduate education

Income/Wealth:
- Democrat voters: Near Poverty Level (below 2nd tax bracket) or below, or Existing Wealth (people not living on Income)
- Republican voters: Virtually all Income Tax Brackets above poverty, overwhelming majority of Small Business Owners in Top Income Brackets

Now in the 2008 election, the number of mid income earners did significantly vote for Democrat, making it really a non-difference with Republicans (at least within the margin of error), which was interesting to see, but not unexpected with the economy.

And the number of African Americans that voted Democrat (Obama) increased from just under 90% (it has been slowly decreasing 1-2% every election under Clinton and even for W.) to nearly 99%. But that is not surprising with Obama having an African immigrant for a father.
 
Young students, the poor, the teachers, ghetto people, alot of people who have families in the south american countries voted for him to win, so it is not everyone who wanted Obama to win but mostly the poor and the not so fiscally advantaged social classes.

The election turnout was huge.

Obama's win was a massive endorsement from the electorate,
Unlike 2000, for example.

In fact Obama's vote, matched your hero's vote numbers.
In terms of percentage vote gained, Obama emulated Reagan.



Are the students, the poor, the teachers, ghetto people, alot of people who have families in the south american countries voted for him to win representing the whole population of the USA??? Not as far as I know. What may be good for them may not be good for the others. His program was mostly based on a marketing image and the so called change isn't a change but just making things worse than they were. Trying to implement social security and assisting people socially is completely unamerican, you must be a bloody socialist to want that. Socialism has no place in USA and the OBAMA administration needs to get a massive ass kicking.

oooooooooohhhhhhhhhh, the socialism bogeyman:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
What is your point? Is there a point...?
Red States...do you really have the naive view that everyone in a Red State voted Republican, and everyone in a Blue State voted Dem?
What does that insinuate..."make of that what you will"...Southern states are racist, or poor, or just beneath the wonderful smart well-off Blue State voters? You are really an elitist, or a wanna-be at any rate.
Was there a real point to that post, or were you just sniping for some personal need to feel "above" someone?
There aren't supposed to be any "classes" here when it comes to voting, laws, and government services.
Your attitude seems to indicate there is a class structure that has some kind of relevance to how the election went...


"The lady doth protest too much, methinks
 
Just a question, why do people think that worker's unions are creatures from the most vile, infected pimple on satan's arse?

And what is the problem with the US having a sensible healthcare system akin to most other western nations?
 
Just a question, why do people think that worker's unions are creatures from the most vile, infected pimple on satan's arse?

And what is the problem with the US having a sensible healthcare system akin to most other western nations?

Because the American public has the most screwed up interpretations of such concepts as liberalism, socialism or conservatism and all that comes along with them (concepts of free market, peace, freedom, etc.) amongst all the western industrialized nations. That's why.
You can speak your mind and protest for or against anything (abortion, homosexuality, racism, the death penalty,...) but don't you dare protest for your workplace! Hell no, that's damn near communism!

Of course there are those who don't fall into this category, thank god.
But talk to any reputable and respected scholar of political science about this topic and the hair on the back of his neck will rise fast...and not out of joy... ;)
 

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Re: The I Told You So Obama Will Fuck Up Thread

Is anybody else out there tired of the medias' incessant ass kissing of this very real marxist idealist president ? Has anyone else noticed that the guy is getting more and more obnoxious by the day because of the ass kissing ?

All he (messiah) can do is to further destroy (via progressive taxation) any current and future hopes of there ever being a middle class in this nation again.

Am I wrong here ? Please explain to me how a middle class sector will ever arise again ? Put aside the pejoratives and the snooty anti republikan remarks (well, be my guest actually, won't hurt me any) and tell us ?
 
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