The I Told You So Obama Will Fuck Up Thread

meesterperfect

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Well it seems he has given the post of Secretary of State to Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Hmm? funny, I thought one of the big platforms he ran on whilst vying for the democratic party nomination was his differences with Hillary on the issues of foreign affairs.
Now he names her Secretary of State.

Go figure
 
^^ What?? Ok, last just critique every decision he makes why don't we. He's not even president yet. Geez.. What is going to happen when he is sworn in? I really feel for Barack. He's got a tough 4 years to deal with, while bush sits back and knows that Obama is screwed because of his own sorry little ass.
 
I support Obama, and I think Hillary would be a great choice for Secretary of State, (as she was my original choice for president) but meesterperfect has a very valid point there. It's funny how the primaries tend to do that to people. You try and distance yourself so much from certain other members of your own party, when in reality, your views are not all that different from theirs at all.
 

Vagina

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it doesn't matter our country will be strong. if problems arise we'll just invade canada and europe. problem solved.
 
^^^^ Is your name Anne Coulter? Cuz she's a fucking idiot, and would say the exact same thing.
 

Vagina

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^^^^ Is your name Anne Coulter? Cuz she's a fucking idiot, and would say the exact same thing.

look our country became a world power by imperialism. do you honestly think our military can't handle taking over other countries and conquering their resources?
 
look our country became a world power by imperialism. do you honestly think our military can't handle taking over other countries and conquering their resources?

Hey dumbass, it's not the military that conquers countries, it the money providers that conquer countries.
 
look our country became a world power by imperialism. do you honestly think our military can't handle taking over other countries and conquering their resources?

A supporter of imperialism?

A supporter of militaristic imperialism?


Funny. :)


I hope you meant to be funny? :dunno:
 
We suck at imperialism ...

A supporter of imperialism?
A supporter of militaristic imperialism?
The US utterly sucks at imperialism, let alone militaristic imperialism. If we wanted to "do it right," we'd label the native populations, get them to fight each other, enslave them and either pay 1/100th the fair market value for resources (or just take them for free).

Instead, we go into former colonies of other nations, try to get their people to stop oppressing each other, or fighting after the oppression is removed -- people who were labelled and/or forced to live together by prior European decision, or newfound Communist oppression (many times the latter as a result of prior, former) -- let alone pay "fair market value" for resources and fund our own logistics/capabilities while we go bankrupt.

That has always been the American folly. One thing I believe the Clinton administration learned early on -- right or wrong (right from an American preservation/interest standpoint, wrong from a genocidal one -- depends on your views) -- is that the US should only get involved in European affairs, not former European colonies that have been completely setup for a thousand-long conflicts.

He only got involved with Bosnia (and even had to drag some EU leaders into that one, sadly enough), while ignoring many other issues. He pulled back from the fully planned out conflicts with North Korea in 1993-1994 and Iraq in 1998, and one might argue that -- sadly enough -- is what is the best thing for everyone. After all, what US intervention outside of Europe has ever garnered support from anyone?

Hell, the US is still beat up on how we conducted ourselves in the Pacific theater of WWII by many people, totally ignoring the comparisons that not only could be made in the European theater, but how the Japanese conducted themselves against everyone and anyone. I also found the Tsunami of late 2004 was my "wake up call" that the US will always be trashed when anything goes wrong, regardless of the actual effort (in addition to money) that the US puts forth immediately to save people.

Which is why I'm starting to advocate a very, very strong position of American continent-only policy for the US. That very, scary viewpoint from the standpoint of securing resources the EU needs is why many EU leaders have more recently "warmed up" to the US again. Because without the US military -- ever since the Suez Incident and the corresponding and massive reductions in British, French and other militaries -- securing many resources becomes questionable. Hell, the US has serious issues with Chinese interests in the Americas right now, and we're over-stretched to worry about the middle east anymore.

Just my, very calculated, viewpoint since the mid-'90s (during the Clinton administration, when I was gainfully employed in the defense industry).
 
Re: We suck at imperialism ...

That has always been the American folly. One thing I believe the Clinton administration learned early on -- right or wrong (right from an American preservation/interest standpoint, wrong from a genocidal one -- depends on your views) -- is that the US should only get involved in European affairs, not former European colonies that have been completely setup for a thousand-long conflicts.

It's my perception as well (as a foreigner). I guess we have read the same history books ;) :D

The question will be... which perception Obama have. And how it will put it into place from the current situations in which the US are involved.
 
Well not mentioning his other potential cabinet people fuck ups and almost all of them revolving around tax issues...except for that piece of shit Geithner who slipped thru...

I am pointing the finger at the approval of this Bail Out, that they have called some other shit like "Economic Recovery Plan"...if you believe that then you are more gullible than those who reelected Bush for his second term on the premise that the terrorist were gonna get us and that he was the only one to keep us safe.

Shame on Mr. Obama for using the same tactics that W used and that is FEAR!...remember how Bush manipulated Congress, even when there were slightly more Democrats after 2006 with fear tactics and the country also. Not that long in office and when faced with his super bail out bill being questioned what does he does? He resorts to fear tactics, is this is the change? and hope? it seems more like Bush tactics now done by the first black president.

So now what? Obama's left the White House on some sort of infomercial around the country to sell this garbage of a plan? Did we forgot those other $700 billion that Bush slipped pass thru us? This bail out will only work for a lil bit..how soon? dunno...how long? like I said a lil bit..what then?...

Civil unrest? total collapse of the economic system? sky high inflation? get readdy to pay them prices on high gas (since we can't drill no more), food prices, clothing, heating bills, cars...we all know this....

This is the biggest failure, something had to be done, but not this soon, not this irresponsible way, not this much goverment intervention, not with fear...
 
I wonder if President Obama's appointees who "forgot" to pay their taxes had dogs who ate their homework while they were younger.
 
Well you happy people that voted for Obama, make sure it last because as soon as he starts fucking shit up, I will be there to tell you I told you so, don't want to hear your bitchin and get over it you got what you deserve. (A ranting/piss off independent).:mad::mad:

Would this thread even exist if it werent for the fact he is black? I think for alot of americans who thought of themselves as open minded, got a glimpse at their inner racist when this guy got into office.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
I wonder if President Obama's appointees who "forgot" to pay their taxes had dogs who ate their homework while they were younger.

They should be in jail. ;)

Shame on Mr. Obama for using the same tactics that W used and that is FEAR!...remember how Bush manipulated Congress, even when there were slightly more Democrats after 2006 with fear tactics and the country also. Not that long in office and when faced with his super bail out bill being questioned what does he does? He resorts to fear tactics, is this is the change? and hope? it seems more like Bush tactics now done by the first black president.

The change "we" asked for is here. :rolleyes:

It's just politics as usual with a different, half-black guy in the office.

It is all an act.

Wonder when the, "I didn't vote for Obama" bumper stickers will come out? :yinyang:
 
Would this thread even exist if it werent for the fact he is black? I think for alot of americans who thought of themselves as open minded, got a glimpse at their inner racist when this guy got into office.

Nah, there're haters for every president, they'll bitch and whine about everything they do...
 
Would this thread even exist if it werent for the fact he is black? I think for alot of americans who thought of themselves as open minded, got a glimpse at their inner racist when this guy got into office.

I didn't vote for him. Race for me is not the issue, the ideas and beliefs are. For those of my fellow conservatives who did not vote for our Dear Leader and who are now accused of racism, just answer this question, would you have voted for Dr. Condoleezza Rice had she run for president? Or J.C. Watts? Or Ken Blackwell? Or Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell, or maybe even Colin Powell instead of a white person like Hillary, Edwards, or Kerry? I would have gladly voted for Condi Rice or any of those prominent conservatives I just listed over our newly elected Messiah Obama, (P.B.U.H).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that just because I didn't vote for him does not make me racist. How about you who did vote for him instead of electing a girl to the white house even if it was only as VP? You didn't vote for her because of her sex, right? I guess you all are sexist mysigonists who believe that women have no role to play in leadership. Of course, you are not, I'm sure many of you would not vote for Palin in the future if she were to run because of her views and not her sex, so why is it so hard to believe when we say we did not vote for The One (term president, fingers crossed) because of his views and not his race? But how would you like to be accused of sexual discrimination if you don't vote for her?
 
I can understand the thread title and its true but it can be said about every President or in my country England Prime minister they all have good and bad sides and all make good and bad decisions so offcourse Obama will fuck up sooner or later
 
Oh please. Obama's been in the office for less than a month and you guys are already crucifying him. He didn't create this humongous mess that we are in, only to fix it and fixing is what he is doing. He can only do so much as a President, keep in mind that the stimulous bill require the votes of the very people who'll put pork in any legislation (GOP and Dems alike) and do you think he can enact a bill by himself without the help of Congress? There's some questionable parts in the bill, I'll give you that, but there's very little Obama can do about it so just live with it and know that what's important is that a bill be sent to him which achieve the objective of getting this country back on track. I am already sick of people blaming on him for everything when he's only just got sworn in. Give our President a chance to do what he's voted by the people to do before you pass judgement for crying out loud.
 
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