Texas brings the pain!
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I wouldn't mind it if they had corporal punishment in every school in every state to be honest. The kids today don't respect anybody.
It's not a teachers place for child discipline. There's enough adults already who take advantage of children for abuse, and you know there will be asshole teachers that cross that line.
A teachers job is to teach. Disciplining children starts at home with parents. If that's not being done, there are other outlets (i.e. other relatives, police/juv. probate officers, teen mentors). Coming off the heels of the Mark Becker sentencing in IA for killing coach Ed Thomas, this paddling in school idea seems that much more dated and unrealistic as far as problem solving IMO.
A teachers job is to teach. Disciplining children starts at home with parents. If that's not being done, there are other outlets (i.e. other relatives, police/juv. probate officers, teen mentors). Coming off the heels of the Mark Becker sentencing in IA for killing coach Ed Thomas, this paddling in school idea seems that much more dated and unrealistic as far as problem solving IMO.
That's right, if you want your kids beaten, beat them yourself, you lazy ass!
And, believe me, this man is absolutely RIGHT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJeC2ss32-k&feature=player_embedded
It's illegal in most states for parents to spank their own children....
Welcome to the Nanny States of America, where the gubment knows better than you! Isn't it obvious they are right? Aren't kids getting smarter, stronger, faster and more well behaved every year?
Supafly
Retired Mod
You misunderstand authority with beating children up.
Of course, if you do a poor job raising your kids during the first years od their lifes, you have a hard time once they are in their teens
But beating them up just shows them it is the best way to handle stress situation.
The paddling will result in quite the opposite of the desired goal
Of course, if you do a poor job raising your kids during the first years od their lifes, you have a hard time once they are in their teens
But beating them up just shows them it is the best way to handle stress situation.
The paddling will result in quite the opposite of the desired goal
emceeemcee
Banned
No surprise really. Texas has always had a bit of a problem with civilized society....
You have obviously never substituted a class of disrespectful elementary students. It's hard to teach a class full of students when they are up running around the classroom screaming at eachother and not paying attention to the teacher. So please explain to me after writing their name on the board and threatening to send them to the principle's office doesn't work...what would you do?
True. If you want kids today to respect you, hit them!
Ah yes.....somebody else who speaks from zero experience. Again, I would like to have seen you try to get the students I've substituted for in line. "Now class, please just listen for a second.....class?!?" I would point and laugh at you. Point.And.Laugh.
True. If you want kids today to respect you, hit them!
It works a lot better than hostage negotiations. :thumbsup:
True. If you want kids today to respect you, hit them!
As said above, some of you guys don't or can't differentiate between corporal punishment (i.e., spanking) and physical abuse. There IS a difference.
I equate it to training a new puppy not to peeing in the house. You smack it (lightly) with a newspaper and say "No" to adjust the behavior. After a while, you won't need the newspaper, a simple "No" will work. Kids aren't much different than puppies in this respect, and cannot be reasoned with until they get older, then it might be too late. At younger ages, it's all about positive and negative reinforcement to condition them to act in a constructive, not destructive, way.:2 cents:
Uh... no.
Legzman
what the fuck you lookin at?
Agreed. Children are out of control these days. If the parents won't whoop em, then the teachers need to!
Disrespectful students come with the teaching package. That's part of what you sign up for, but it doesn't give you the right to instill your own physical brand of discipline. Let's be smarter about this: there are gonna be problems whenever you work with PEOPLE. Toddler, elementary, middle school, high school, college, adult, WHATEVER... not everybody is going to be behaved. Teachers beating kids with a paddle is not going to change that. It does not solve the problem. In fact, it will create more potential issues IMO:
A: Who is there to paddle the teachers? You already got teachers fucking the students and all sorts of in-school abuse. So where does the child PROTECTION come from.
B: Civil rights. Yes folks, racist actions toward minorities still exists.
C: Gay rights. Anybody want to open up that can of worms? Because it will come up.
D: Children with disabilities. You gonna paddle them too? Where does the line get drawn.
E: Retaliation. You don't know what these kids go through when they're not at school. If a kid is mistreated at home or even at school by other students, trying to paddle him/her could quickly turn into a school shooting.
I believe this idea is going to create vigilante teachers, who will eventually come up with their own interpretations of the rules and regulations. People won't be satisfied until someone is killed.
Why are "Civil rights" only brought up in regard to race and racism? Corporal punishment opens up a huge area that can or does infringe in civil rights. Sure, race is a potential aspect of that, but so are countless others.
When a authority figure has the allowance to inflict pain based on his/her own discretion, a great many factors may corrupt the process. Not just color or ethnicity.
I'm not suggesting that you disagree with that, I'm just pointing out that our civil rights can be, and are, regularly violated independent of our genetic makeup.
You are correct. I think it's just the term most used in association with crimes and situations involving racism. Civil rights do indeed have a much broader scope.
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What's scary about this is I think you're serious! Yeah man, I've known a lot of students get paddled to death over the years. :1orglaugh
Yeah, not everyone is going to be behaved....but I'm talking about ENTIRE CLASSES. Not just an individual student. We are currently raising a society of disrespectful little monsters that will eventually grow up and, being that they've never had any discipline in their lives, will eventually become criminals. Some of these criminals will kill others as you mentioned, all because they weren't disciplined as a child.
My best friend once told me how when he was younger his mom would take him to the store. He said everytime they went he'd start throwing a fit for a toy until he got it. In fact, he would throw a fit for toys that he ALREADY OWNED. Well, one day he decided to do this at the store in front of his father. His father told him to stop throwing a fit because he wasn't getting the toy. Needless to say, he wouldn't stop. His father took him out to the car and whooped his behind quite hard from what I understand. He said that he never threw a fit for a toy again.....and yes, he respects and loves his father. :hatsoff:
"Lookin at my sandles. . .That's a paddlin." HAHAHA! LOVE IT!
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