Should male performers who have sex with men and transwomen work in straight porn?

[luis1972]

If there is people for a product, that product will exist.
If you like this kind of porn just watch it.

 

[CrimsonBolt]

I gave you negative rep because you are a bigoted ass hole with some very ugly and insulting opinions.

Giving me negative rep back for the hell of it really means nothing, not that rep actually means anything anyway. So smirk all you want you arrogant Mother fucker.

i don't fucking care about you and i don't fucking care about rep you neg rep me i neg rep you back that's fine :tongue:

Also, why do I have a feeling you probably watch your fair share of lesbian porn...?

i don't watch lesbian porn... but a must admit sometimes i watching threesomes and girl licking an another girl is pleasant to watch

Not shocked, just disappointed. I've come across homophobia so often it no longer shocks me.

Real men don't criticize somebody else's lifestyle choice just because it's different from their own.

ok sorry if a disappointed you, i just say what i think, maybe my words are crude, but i don't care what do you make with your ass in your life if you enjoy cocks in your booty that's fine, (and one of my oncle & one of my cousin are gay too) but in porn i'm against that, like i say one day those guys gonna be infected and they will infect our fav pornstar, you was a fan of cameron bay don't you? do you know she fucked a gay and now she tested positive to hiv do you wanna the same thing for your christy mack? i don't think so.
maybe a pissed you off but deep down you know than i'm right

Hardcore69, I get what you're saying. Perhaps your choice of words are harsh, but I'm sure you would have more to say if you were writing in your native language.

As horrifying as it sounds, there are gay companies that knowingly let HIV infected men continue to perform…this can lead to people becoming infected with more than one strain of HIV.

that's sick, but i'm gonna stop talkin about that, i've said what i want to say and i won't making more hate here

 

[christianxxx]

this is a pointless thread. the porn industry is a loose confederation of individuals. there are some coalitions, the FSC, LATATA, etc. but there is no adult organization with 100 percent participation and cooperation.

you can't ban male performers who gay escort and then tell Kickass, Kink, Evil Angel, Devil's Films, and about 10-15 small fetish companies that hire female porn performers and males who either do bi, femdom, strap-on, or TS scenes - hey everyone - you can hire our girls but not any of those guys.

we have a 14 day health test - that is the only uniform standard that is universally recognized. Good test equals hireable for scenes.

sex is a risk, whether its on or off camera. we get paid to take those risks and paid pretty well. Don't want to take those risks? fine - but that's your choice not the industry at large.

condoms in scenes does nothing except push people away to find non-condom scenes. which sucks, but its still reality.

 

[georges]

this is a pointless thread. the porn industry is a loose confederation of individuals. there are some coalitions, the FSC, LATATA, etc. but there is no adult organization with 100 percent participation and cooperation.

you can't ban male performers who gay escort and then tell Kickass, Kink, Evil Angel, Devil's Films, and about 10-15 small fetish companies that hire female porn performers and males who either do bi, femdom, strap-on, or TS scenes - hey everyone - you can hire our girls but not any of those guys.

we have a 14 day health test - that is the only uniform standard that is universally recognized. Good test equals hireable for scenes.

sex is a risk, whether its on or off camera. we get paid to take those risks and paid pretty well. Don't want to take those risks? fine - but that's your choice not the industry at large.

condoms in scenes does nothing except push people away to find non-condom scenes. which sucks, but its still reality.

Christian, tell me wasn't wicked pictures doing a lot of their scenes with condoms? As far as I know they are still a profitable company, please correct me if I am mistaken.

 

[RASQ]

as long as these male performers wear condoms when they fuck other men and trannies, i see no problem with them in straight films

 

[xyz2323]

I think any performer male or female that is a known escort shouldn't be allowed to shoot scenes with major companies. But since it seems like most pornstars are escorting these days I don't think you could really enforce it.

I would say that studios shouldn't be allowed to book porn stars who escort. Oh, fuck it. Lets call a spade a spade. It's prostitution not escorting.

 

[DOA82]

DOA82, you're the guy who is in favor of that stuff, maybe it's less about bigotry and you not wanting to face facts about being bisexual.

Being in favour of something does not mean that I partake. I am a heterosexual male who just so happens to not give a shit about a persons sexuality, if you do something that makes you happy and it doesn't interfere with anyone else, who am I to judge?

Even if I was bisexual, what right would you have to comment on it?

 

[Maggie Green]

I think it all comes down to responsibility. When you're in porn, you have a responsibility not only for your own health but for everyone else as well. What you do in your personal life has the potential to affect lots of other people, it's no longer just about you and maybe your off screen partner. I can't imagine going out and banging a client bareback all night and then showing up on a Reality Kings set the next morning. Sure, I'd have a clean test so I'm able to work but who the fuck knows what you may have been exposed to the night before and potentially are exposing your on screen talent to. If I chose escorting, I'd just stick to that, there's way more money to be made anyway. The fact is, we will never know what every single person we work with does off set. It's unfortunate that a lot of people are willing to put a price tag on their health and the health of others.

Sadly, porn would pretty much cease to exist if they tried to ban all escorts. The two were not always so intertwined. I believe that condoms along with testing are the way to go.

 

[SabrinaDeep]

Nothing can be flawless when it comes to sexual conduct, unless you lock all performers in a big brother house for life and monitor them 24/7.
So, as someone else already said, you cannot enforce escorts and cross acting out of the picture. But since we have that gift called common sense, we could definitely use it for improving things up.
We all know who the escorts, the cross actors and the drugs addicted are and refusing to work with them is perfectly legitimate, common sense and i would like to add: professional.
If we were all more professional about this (including and especially the producers and talent agencies), now we wouldn't be here to talk about it.

We are the only Cab Company making seminars on how to reduce the damage that our drunken drivers do. Really??
We are still talking about enforcing condoms when shooting with a potentially diseased person. Really?? It's like inviting Jack the Ripper for dinner at Christmas and spending all previous days in December having family talks on how we can protect ourselves if he attempted to murder us on Christmas day. Your 3 years old kid would ask you: "Why did you invite him?".
Mandatory condom will not improve safety: it will just lower the guard on testing, making the job more dangerous. Who cares if you escorted bareback, last night, and maybe you caught an STD, since today you are fucking me with a condom...Some of you guys would fuck with a condom a girl or a boy that you know might have an STD? Let's be serious: we both know that you would not.

Avoid bad company, add mandatory rapid tests on set and encourage professionalism. To eradicate the risk is impossible, but to make it the exception that proves the rule doesn't take much.
The problem is that you can't teach a donkey to fly, but this is a different matter, i guess. And so the Cab Company seminars on safety continue....

 

[filledvagina]

PERVERSE-- JUST SAY NO TO SEX W/O comdom

 

[christianxxx]

Wicked has slowed production significantly. They have allowed Manwin to buy their internet rights. Wicked is doing okay but I wouldn't say they are kicking ass!

Maggie, not only are you correct, but you didn't state "banging a client bareback in your ass all night" anal increases the risk significantly. (obivously I am not referring to you personally).

Sabrina Deep - thank you for your wise comments. much appreciated.

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

ok sorry if a disappointed you, i just say what i think, maybe my words are crude, but i don't care what do you make with your ass in your life

It's not about my ass or my life, it's about disgusting bigotry. Your disgusting bigotry.

if you enjoy cocks in your booty that's fine,

That's not what you said. What you said was :

real men don't fuck other mens that's unnatural and disgusting!

So.......

(and one of my oncle & one of my cousin are gay too)

So, are your uncle and cousin "not real men" and "unnatural and disgusting"? Do they know you feel that way?

you was a fan of cameron bay don't you? do you know she fucked a gay and now she tested positive to hiv do you wanna the same thing for your christy mack? i don't think so.

Yes, I did know that. No, I wouldn't want HIV to happen to Christy, you'd be moronic to suggest anyone would. And she's finished filming B/G, as if that was ever relevant to this conversation. But as far as I'm concerned the issue is people not being responsible and having safe sex off camera, not who they're fucking.

maybe a pissed you off but deep down you know than i'm right

Not pissed off, disappointed. I take solace in the face that somewhere, someday, a lot of homophobes pick a fight with the wrong gay guys, and get the shit kicked out of them. One or two of my gay friends are pretty big guys, and I've seen them get started on, and they hit fucking hard.

Know you're right? If "condoms = bad" and "gay = unnatural and disgusting" is right, I'm perfectly happy to be wrong. If people play it safe and don't hurt anyone, they can fuck whoever they like.

 

[Will E Worm]

Should male performers who have sex with men and transwomen work in straight porn?

Absolutely not.

They can't legitimately call it straight porn if they do.



As we have all seen in the past few years, this is putting people at risk.
It has to stop now.

 

[xyz2323]

No, they shouldn't.

 

[CrimsonBolt]

So, are your uncle and cousin "not real men" and "unnatural and disgusting"? Do they know you feel that way?

they know than i'm against that.

Not pissed off, disappointed. I take solace in the face that somewhere, someday, a lot of homophobes pick a fight with the wrong gay guys, and get the shit kicked out of them. One or two of my gay friends are pretty big guys, and I've seen them get started on, and they hit fucking hard.

guy like that?

:1orglaugh

 

[Mr_Stiffy]

The problem with posting a witty retort via an embedded YouTube vid, is that the intended recipient has to care enough to click the "play" button. Sorry Adolf, you're out of luck on that front.

 

[CrimsonBolt]

The problem with posting a witty retort via an embedded YouTube vid, is that the intended recipient has to care enough to click the "play" button. Sorry Adolf, you're out of luck on that front.

ich liebe dich auch! :tongue:

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

this is a pointless thread. the porn industry is a loose confederation of individuals. there are some coalitions, the FSC, LATATA, etc. but there is no adult organization with 100 percent participation and cooperation.

you can't ban male performers who gay escort and then tell Kickass, Kink, Evil Angel, Devil's Films, and about 10-15 small fetish companies that hire female porn performers and males who either do bi, femdom, strap-on, or TS scenes - hey everyone - you can hire our girls but not any of those guys.

we have a 14 day health test - that is the only uniform standard that is universally recognized. Good test equals hireable for scenes.

sex is a risk, whether its on or off camera. we get paid to take those risks and paid pretty well. Don't want to take those risks? fine - but that's your choice not the industry at large.

condoms in scenes does nothing except push people away to find non-condom scenes. which sucks, but its still reality.

Your own 14 day test is not going to protect someone who gets a clean test, then gets infected the very next week and infects another person. The system you have in place is not going to protect people all the time, yet there's no one calling to scrap it. It's about layers of security. Screening out guys who are shown to do gay escorting and sex on camera with men and transwomen is a quick way to screen out a particularly high risk group.

The industry has already shown it won't police itself effectively, especially with so many performers who are in and out of the industry and with so many of them escorting.
Take a look at all the young women fresh to the industry that have had sex with TJ Cummings in the past year. I wonder how many of those "teens" would have preferred not to do a scene with him if they knew he was an active gay prostitute?

The producers and agents may have known, as he's been in the industry for a decade. Did that stop them from sending their new performers to have sex without a condom? No.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

I think it all comes down to responsibility. When you're in porn, you have a responsibility not only for your own health but for everyone else as well. What you do in your personal life has the potential to affect lots of other people, it's no longer just about you and maybe your off screen partner. I can't imagine going out and banging a client bareback all night and then showing up on a Reality Kings set the next morning. Sure, I'd have a clean test so I'm able to work but who the fuck knows what you may have been exposed to the night before and potentially are exposing your on screen talent to. If I chose escorting, I'd just stick to that, there's way more money to be made anyway. The fact is, we will never know what every single person we work with does off set. It's unfortunate that a lot of people are willing to put a price tag on their health and the health of others.

Sadly, porn would pretty much cease to exist if they tried to ban all escorts. The two were not always so intertwined. I believe that condoms along with testing are the way to go.

Exactly.
Condoms should be mandatory. A lot of the condoms that are used now are so hard to see that you would really have to look closely to know if someone is wearing one.

 

[Will E Worm]

Exactly.
Condoms should be mandatory. A lot of the condoms that are used now are so hard to see that you would really have to look closely to know if someone is wearing one.

:nono: Not at all.


Look at what happened in California.

People don't want them in porn.