I hope this is any porn star's ambition. Abuse is sad and occurs in all walks of life regardless of income level or education.
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Sexually abused women in the sex industry
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I hope this is any porn star's ambition. Abuse is sad and occurs in all walks of life regardless of income level or education.
I don't have a really motivation behind my post. My aim was just to let you know what I found on Crissy Moran's site and to discus about this and bring a few to think about it. And I was hoping someone perhaps could some stats or reports about. That's all. I do not do advertisement for the websites on the picture.
But I think the sex industry (which contains for example prostitution as well) has more dark sites than the most other businesses. So perhaps we as consumer have to watch out more what we are consuming.
And to the thing about the sex workers which say, that they were not abused... I think, the most won't say that they were abused if it's so.
This could be an interesting site:
www.shelleylubben.com
www.global-sisterhood-network.org/content/view/1783/76/
I don't want to convert someone, I mean I'm a porn consumer too, but with what you are doing or not doing, you can make the world a better or a poorer one.
I know it sounds very green.
You were doing okay until you mentioned Shelley Lubben. I wouldn't piss on her if she were on fire. She is a former performer/now rabid anti porn zealot. She is also a religious whacko who on the outside seems to want to help female sex workers who need it but she is not below harassing people who do not want her "help". She also exaggerates many of her "statistics" and sometimes outright lies about them.
She has only one true agenda and that is to prevent you or anyone else from viewing porn and stopping those who make it.
Philbert
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What he said...
This op is like a plant in the Carnival audience...called a shill.
Some things are a bit obvious.
whatisname, your post is skewed logic, like the "all sisters are girls, therefore all girls are sisters" .
Not buying a product doesn't reduce it's profit, since porn doesn't really have a shelf-life like bananas...for instance.
The OP makes no claim whatsoever. He posted a link to a site, and qoutes from it.
I agree that people who were abused (not only sexually) should be helped and if I had enough money to spare I'd donate (or if they asked me for other ways to help and I could, I would), but as soon as someone starts lying to me, that person can fuck off...
I'll gladly help people I trust, but if they lie to me, I can no longer trust them.
crissy moron is a psycho Christian that has been brainwashed into believing that sex is bad, but like I've said before, they know that no one will listen to them if they say what they really believe, so they disguise their agenda by making up bullshit that sounds like it might be reasonable to uneducated people in order to sucker them in.
Yes, I believe most of us did.
I don't understand your argument at all. How is my post like that? You haven't explained the analogy, and it isn't at all clear to me. I can't make a counterargument if I can't even understand your argument.
But how can you say "Not buying a product doesn't reduce its profit"? It's precisely because porn is so easily reproducible that its profits depend heavily on the volume of sales. You spend the budget to make a porn film; if only a few copies sell, you've got a huge loss; if a moderate number of copies sell, you've got a small profit; if a lot of copies sell, you've got a large profit.
Your "shelf life" argument seems to rest on the idea that porn producers will be able to sell in the future anything they can't sell today. Even if that's true, it doesn't help today's profits. If you buy less, today's profits go down, and that makes it harder to fund subsequent productions.
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Will E Worm
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Where did she say sex was bad ?
I believe she has yoked herself up with pseudo-christians. :angels:
I have yet to talk to her about this.
Where did she say sex was bad ?
I believe she has yoked herself up with pseudo-christians. :angels:
I have yet to talk to her about this.
well all she does is talk shit about the business, and as far as I know it wasn't because she was ever treated badly by it, it was just after she decided to become a Jesus freak.
Basically I'm making an assumption that religious groups, who have made their stance on sex and pornography very clear, when they talk about this stuff are doing it because they are opposed to those things on religious grounds first and formost, whether or not they have a legitimate reason to offer criticism.
I'm just skeptical about listening to information put out by groups that are obviously biased and trying to push their agendas. there's nothing wrong with promoting your ideas, that's fine, as long as it's up front and honest. But by doing so subvertly and acting like you are just trying to put out objective information or serve a cause other than your own is a bullshit scam and I won't be taken in. It is the mark of a weak position that you can't sell your ideology on it's own merits.
case in goddamn point: http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=290189
Philbert
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Pretty much the only accurate statement in both your posts.
It's boring and time consuming to explain the obvious to someone who isn't really capable of seeing it.
If I have time in the next day or so, and interest, I'll explain the illogical structure you are using to you.
Maybe, just maybe ...
Maybe, just maybe if the porn industry wasn't cast as an aberration, then maybe this wouldn't be the case?
Hell, isn't part of the reason because these kids are exposed to sexual aspects very early, so their own sexual innocence has already been lost? So when it comes to sex, they've gotten more comfortable with those aspects by the time they are 18 than most people?
It's amazing how people will slide statistics to fit an argument, while ignoring many aspects of the argument.
The industry, at least in the US, is still taboo from the mainstream. When that changes, you will see a change in many aspects.
I'm not going to apologize for being a man, loving erotica and respecting women. My wife feels the same as a woman, who loves erotica, and respects men. The more respect and caring we have in the industry, especially coming from paying consumers, the more it will be.
But if you leave it taboo and forbidden in normal thought, the more it will only be driven by others who have these limited agendas.
Erotica behavior is natural. It should not be shunned. It's a sign if immaturity, not shame. Just because some people use it for their own, violent pleasures does not mean pornography itself is built on violence.
This is the same, bullshit argument that goes over and over with rape and other things. It's not lust that's the problem. It's violence. It's not demeaning at its core, it's when people add demeaning to it that it becomes a problem.
Acting against someone's will is the problem. Acting on emotions that are hardly fruitful leads to this bullshit.
Hell, and people wonder why I don't have "make up sex"? If you've learned anything about me, it's that I take my sexual lust and pleasure with the utmost responsibility -- even with my own wife.
Maybe, just maybe if the porn industry wasn't cast as an aberration, then maybe this wouldn't be the case?
Hell, isn't part of the reason because these kids are exposed to sexual aspects very early, so their own sexual innocence has already been lost? So when it comes to sex, they've gotten more comfortable with those aspects by the time they are 18 than most people?
It's amazing how people will slide statistics to fit an argument, while ignoring many aspects of the argument.
The industry, at least in the US, is still taboo from the mainstream. When that changes, you will see a change in many aspects.
I'm not going to apologize for being a man, loving erotica and respecting women. My wife feels the same as a woman, who loves erotica, and respects men. The more respect and caring we have in the industry, especially coming from paying consumers, the more it will be.
But if you leave it taboo and forbidden in normal thought, the more it will only be driven by others who have these limited agendas.
Erotica behavior is natural. It should not be shunned. It's a sign if immaturity, not shame. Just because some people use it for their own, violent pleasures does not mean pornography itself is built on violence.
This is the same, bullshit argument that goes over and over with rape and other things. It's not lust that's the problem. It's violence. It's not demeaning at its core, it's when people add demeaning to it that it becomes a problem.
Acting against someone's will is the problem. Acting on emotions that are hardly fruitful leads to this bullshit.
Hell, and people wonder why I don't have "make up sex"? If you've learned anything about me, it's that I take my sexual lust and pleasure with the utmost responsibility -- even with my own wife.
Yup. Europeans are generally more open minded about everything that has to do with sex and the sex industry (generally does not mean every single person... The Holy See is part of Europe) and indeed, you don't hear such stories (or at least much less, you do hear about women being forced into prostitution etc, but still even that's less common than in the US) from this side of the ocean.
So you'd be willing to let me give you sex, attention and money? Didn't think so.
also it always help if you don't draw your own conclusions vs what might actually be said
anyway i don't think the fact that as adults abused children are choosing to act a certain way is anyone's fault but their own. how many women are in the porn industry versus how many women are abused as children. i'd be really surprised if it made up 1% of the total number of young girls abused. so i agree with many others sentiments: help the children being abused now. the only person that can save an adult is themselves.Similar threads
