The people using these "private" bathrooms for these "roundezvous" are not the owners only. The bathrooms were created to serve the public who they have brought in. In fact, I believe the amount of bathrooms was regulated when they built Disney. The government regulates how many parking spots a "private" company needs. They regulate whether or not an elevator must be built for handicapped people. The idea that a business owner has full rights to use his private property any way he sees fit is an error. Once this owner brings people in, he/she brings government regulations in as well. My bathroom 10 feet away from me right now is a private bathroom. The moment I create a business in my own home with customers coming in, it becomes a public bathroom.
Sex in restroom stalls is private, ACLU says
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The people using these "private" bathrooms for these "roundezvous" are not the owners only. The bathrooms were created to serve the public who they have brought in. In fact, I believe the amount of bathrooms was regulated when they built Disney. The government regulates how many parking spots a "private" company needs. They regulate whether or not an elevator must be built for handicapped people. The idea that a business owner has full rights to use his private property any way he sees fit is an error. Once this owner brings people in, he/she brings government regulations in as well. My bathroom 10 feet away from me right now is a private bathroom. The moment I create a business in my own home with customers coming in, it becomes a public bathroom.
BNF
Ex-SuperMod
Public use versus publicly owned is the difference I was trying to make.
You can have a public use private toilet, like McDonalds. Or, you can have city built and owned public use toilet. There are, of course, regulations about public use toliets, but you would not be under any obligation to let someone use a privately owned one.
Generally, in Europe anyway, when stepping onto privately owned business land, you agree to certain rules that are usually in addition to the normal public laws. (Rules regarding noise, operating hours and so on.) I'd say, based on my time in the USA, that a US shopping mall would be the same.
It's splitting hairs, but that's the entire point of the private sector.
You can have a public use private toilet, like McDonalds. Or, you can have city built and owned public use toilet. There are, of course, regulations about public use toliets, but you would not be under any obligation to let someone use a privately owned one.
Generally, in Europe anyway, when stepping onto privately owned business land, you agree to certain rules that are usually in addition to the normal public laws. (Rules regarding noise, operating hours and so on.) I'd say, based on my time in the USA, that a US shopping mall would be the same.
It's splitting hairs, but that's the entire point of the private sector.
They're a fucked up org. I wonder what some of them are about over there. Didn't they back NAMBLA a few years ago and the rights of pedophiles? Shame on the ACLU.
I'm normally opposed to the ACLU. They seem to always take cases that are completely ridiculous in the name of "liberty." However, I'm afraid that a whole lot more of us will be glad they exist in a decade or so. The advent of RFID technology is troubling. The ability of a government to keep track of you, your medical history, what you buy in a store, where you travel, who you meet with, etc. is quite scary to me. I'm afraid of what is happening to privacy in the world and the ACLU will at least take up that case. So, as much as I dislike them on many, many issues, I can see a positive in their work.
Think about this.The republican convention to pick their "08" candidate is being held in Mnneapolis.Larry Craig and all the other pubs will be passing through that same airport and can utilize the bathroom facilites if they choose.:eek:
Vicky Vette
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Well, go ACLU..... I have been shooting in restrooms in the stall next to you....
http://www.lavatoryoccupied.com
............. :nanner:
Smittmaestro
Center of the fothermucking universe
Do you tap your foot VV?
I gotta ask Vicky, are these videos done in actual public bathrooms? Or is it like a well done set that looks like a public toilet? Or is it like a purveyor of an establishment gives you access/permission to use it for like an hour to record your scene then ya bug out?
I know I sound naive, but I have a hard time believing you actually film at a public restroom during business hours.
Come on darling give us some behind the scenes info.
I'll love ya even more for it.
-cs™
I gotta ask Vicky, are these videos done in actual public bathrooms? Or is it like a well done set that looks like a public toilet? Or is it like a purveyor of an establishment gives you access/permission to use it for like an hour to record your scene then ya bug out?
I know I sound naive, but I have a hard time believing you actually film at a public restroom during business hours.
Come on darling give us some behind the scenes info.
I'll love ya even more for it.
-cs™
Vicky Vette
Official Checked Star Member
I one hundred percent guarantee that the lavatory scenes are 100% in real establishments.... that is why they are fun ..... the thought of getting busted in the men's room giving head..... plus guys maybe thinking they should check and see if Vicky Vette is in the stall next to them as they are waiting to desperately take a leak..... ha ha
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Now I know the ACLU has my back, expect a few more....
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Now I know the ACLU has my back, expect a few more....
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Three cheers for Vicky and the ACLU!!
Hip Hip Hooray!
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bigbadbrody
Banned
its also a way to catch a disease
Vicky Vette
Official Checked Star Member
I've noticed, in the past month, that the majority of restrooms in gas stations and fast food joints have been horribly disgusting...either it's a disaster in there, the lock is broken or the plumbing has become fucked up...or a combo of all 3..
Just thought I'd make a general comment out there....there is nothing more disgusting then stopping someplace and walking into a disgusting restroom..
I may start the new theory that you can tell a lot by how a business views itself and its customers by the condition of its restroom...sort of a play on Doesteyevsky..
Just thought I'd make a general comment out there....there is nothing more disgusting then stopping someplace and walking into a disgusting restroom..
I may start the new theory that you can tell a lot by how a business views itself and its customers by the condition of its restroom...sort of a play on Doesteyevsky..
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Yeah, well they might stick up for you, because taking up your cause would get them some serious press, much like the bullshit they're pulling with this politician, but I would bet my bottom dollar if it happened to anybody nondescript, like me, I would receive no help what so ever. Lets face it, how many teenagers in cars have been busted making out at the park, where were they then? Hell, how many people in your industry do you know that have been busted in public/semi public places, and ended up in court? Where were they then? They aren't helping this guy for him, or for peoples civil rights, they're doing it to whore their name, and organization. And lets face it, this guy doesn't deserve help. He thumps his bible, while screaming family values, votes against the rights of gays to get married, and then tries to get his knob polished in a mens room! This fucker needs to loose everything. By the way, nice boobies.:wave:
While I am no fan of pub Larry Craig what you say about the ACLU is just not true.Overwhelming the people they represent are not well known and the cases they take on are not usually very big in the news .Without them many violations of rights in this country by the govt would just go unchallenged.Here is their web page that shows who they are and what they are about.Yeah I know Bill O'Reilly of Fox noise don't like them but for me that is one of best things you could say about anything.
http://www.aclu.org/
From the web site:
"The ACLU was founded by Roger Baldwin, Crystal Eastman, Albert DeSilver and others in 1920. We are nonprofit and nonpartisan and have grown from a roomful of civil liberties activists to an organization of more than 500,000 members and supporters. We handle nearly 6,000 court cases annually from our offices in almost every state.
The ACLU has maintained the position that civil liberties must be respected, even in times of national emergency. The ACLU is supported by annual dues and contributions from its members, plus grants from private foundations and individuals. We do not receive any government funding. Learn more about joining the ACLU."
Almost 6000 cases a year, but how many get much press? Not many ,the ACLU is the best friend american civil liberties has ever had and it is in the trenches fighting the good fight for truth ,justice and the american way!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Vicky Vette
Official Checked Star Member
thats one of the reasons why I went into the Beverly Wi***** Hotel..... and De*** flight
:1orglaugh I think I'll pass. Somehow with my luck I doubt I would get to see anybody like you. I don't even want to know what I would probably get.
I'm not going to say the ACLU doesn’t do some good things, but they have a lot of flaws. During WWII they had no problem with the Japanese internment. They practically don't even recognize the Second Amendment or the individual right it guarantees. They are a political organization and I think at times they look the other way when something doesn't suit them. A lot of people feel they take a very loose interpretation of the Constitution when it pleases them, among other things that people have had a problem with them before.
You make some good points there,especially on internment of Japanese during ww2 and gun control.On the the 1st one I really am not sure why they did not do more in the way of denouncing and sue the govt in the name of the Japanese-americans interned.And on gun control they do not recognize the 2nd amendment as an individual right as shown by this papragraph on them on Wikipedia.
"Concerning gun control, the ACLU embraces the States' Right Model interpretation of the Second Amendment, which only recognizes a state's right to possess firearms, the organization officially declares itself "neutral" on the issue of gun control, pointing to previous Supreme Court decisions such as United States v. Miller to argue that the Second Amendment applies to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, and that "except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of firearms by individuals is not constitutionally protected."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aclu
But on them being a political organization I assume you mean leftwing by that statement they have defended and still do many people who are right wing.Not only this case with pub Larry Craig,but Oliver North,Rush Limbaugh,the american Nazi party and others.Now no doubt they come under attack by right wingers much more than left wingers but that I would say is due to the fact that right wingers are seemingly much more ready to chuck civil liberty's in the name of security or being willing to force everyone to the whims of majority rule such as forcing their religion on everyone.
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