The writers of the Bible were ancient science fiction writers?
Hmmmnn yes.
Scientology, exactly how weird is it?
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Hmmmnn yes.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
I've never heard of ancient science fiction writers.
I believe you made that up. :tongue:
The writers of the Bible were ancient science fiction writers?
Yes, and I'm Egyptian. lol
If the scientologists wanted a Sci-Fi story to be the basis of a religion they should have at least taken a good Sci-Fi story such as Star Trek.
meesterperfect
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ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Nice one Chef.
L. Ron Hubbard; the guy who created Scientology; apparently once said before he started it that the best way to get rich is to start a religion. And he did and he did get rich.
The guy was a whack job. Wanna learn about Scientology? Just study the guy who wrote their 'bible'.
Spleen
Banned?
See, you could call the bible bullshit and say "It was created by an insane science fiction writer!" but no one really knows about the true creation of the bible, because no one around today was alive then. All we have is talk.
However, that is the exact case with Scientology. Lots of people were around when it was created, and it's fact that it was written by an insane (according to his wife and doctor) science fiction writer. It is different because instead of thinking it could be a bullshit religion (like the many atheists on this board like to post about), any sane person will KNOW it's bullshit.
Still I don't see how you can look at Scientology as any different from other religions other than Scientology's youth. What we know for certain is that the Bible was written by people. Whether or not people think what's written in the Bible is bullshit really has nothing to do with the comparison. Age doesn't lend what's written in the Bible credibility, and what is written in the Bible is no less fantastic than anything Scientology teaches. The reason people don't look at things like burning, speaking bushes and virgin births and resurrections from death as insane is that these teaching have been ingrained and conditioned into our psyche over the course of thousands of years. Hubbard's teachings have not been. Hubbard was probably (definitely, in my view, but...) a crackpot--okay. But that doesn't mean the people who dreamed up the wild content of the Bible were any less of a group of crackpots. So, we have two religions--Christianity and Scientology--that make fantastical claims that were written by people. One is old and one is new. But other than that, where is the difference?
The problem isn't Scientology ...
The problem isn't Scientology, it's the Church of Scientology.
It's like saying there's something wrong with Christianity because of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, it's past calling of Crusades, etc...
Politics, power, greed, etc... often play into many things, and the Church of Scientology is to be very much avoided.
Scientology itself I don't have a problem with, and some of my own views mirror some of theirs (and some differ too).
The problem isn't Scientology, it's the Church of Scientology.
It's like saying there's something wrong with Christianity because of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, it's past calling of Crusades, etc...
Politics, power, greed, etc... often play into many things, and the Church of Scientology is to be very much avoided.
Scientology itself I don't have a problem with, and some of my own views mirror some of theirs (and some differ too).
Re: The problem isn't Scientology ...
scientology itself is exactly as fucked up as the church if you ask me
Because ... ?
And if you're going to even start talking about aliens, don't bother, because that's not what it's about.
As my good friend always said, "If I paid all that money [to The Church of Scientology] and they pulled that bullshit story on me at the end, there's no way the people in that room would leave alive!"
So, care to elaborate about what you don't like about the "real" aspects of Scientology as a spiritual journey?
Because ... ? Care to elaborate?
And if you're going to even start talking about aliens, don't bother, because that's not what it's about.
As my good friend always said, "If I paid all that money [to The Church of Scientology] and they pulled that bullshit story on me at the end, there's no way the people in that room would leave alive!"
So, care to elaborate about what you don't like about the "real" aspects of Scientology as a spiritual journey?
Scientology is very, very weird. A big con for your money, to start with.
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Re: Because ... ?
I know you were quoting something that your friend said, but...
Aren't the stories of Jesus, Allah, Tian Zhu (etc)...just as bullshit? :dunno:
I'm not supporting Scientology (or any other religion), but I just find all of the stories behind certain religious sects to be completely unbelievable and 100% "faith-based". Believing in some powerful alien being called Xenu is no different than believing in a pasty white magician named Jesus.
(I do believe that the set of beliefs seperates Scientology from other religions though, as they incorporate science (and I use that word loosely) into their "supernatural" beliefs.)
I know you were quoting something that your friend said, but...
Aren't the stories of Jesus, Allah, Tian Zhu (etc)...just as bullshit? :dunno:
I'm not supporting Scientology (or any other religion), but I just find all of the stories behind certain religious sects to be completely unbelievable and 100% "faith-based". Believing in some powerful alien being called Xenu is no different than believing in a pasty white magician named Jesus.
(I do believe that the set of beliefs seperates Scientology from other religions though, as they incorporate science (and I use that word loosely) into their "supernatural" beliefs.)
Re: Because ... ?
In fact, it's because of "religious leaders" that we get all of these stupid, tangent "stories."
If they'd just focus on the obviousness of the truth, the message, then it would make far more sense.
It's kinda sad that "some people" need the stories and the "fear of God" to actually change their lives.
In reality, if people would just recognize the obviousness of the truth, you wouldn't need stories.
Much less would people even hear those stories that "go off the deep end."
I don't get into debates on "religion" other to point out the real "basis" in their "spirituality."
I.e., I don't "discredit" a type of "spiritual search" simply because there is a "religion" and even a "Church" built around them.
I don't think Scientology differs from some traditional religion-based "spiritual searches" in "bettering yourself" and "helping others."
The problem is what people say things are.
That's because you're focusing on the stories, not the message.
Again, that's because you're focusing on the stories, not the message.
In fact, it's because of "religious leaders" that we get all of these stupid, tangent "stories."
If they'd just focus on the obviousness of the truth, the message, then it would make far more sense.
It's kinda sad that "some people" need the stories and the "fear of God" to actually change their lives.
In reality, if people would just recognize the obviousness of the truth, you wouldn't need stories.
Much less would people even hear those stories that "go off the deep end."
I see many commonalities between many spiritual searches.
I don't get into debates on "religion" other to point out the real "basis" in their "spirituality."
I.e., I don't "discredit" a type of "spiritual search" simply because there is a "religion" and even a "Church" built around them.
I don't think Scientology differs from some traditional religion-based "spiritual searches" in "bettering yourself" and "helping others."
The problem is what people say things are.
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Re: Because ... ?
Personally, I think that all religions deliver the same message. All of the stories involved (whether it be Christianity, Muslim, Judaism, etc) are used to help explain things that happen in everyday life. I think that using the example of Greek Mythology explains that best. The stories are sooooo elaborate and unrealistic, but, they all carry some sort of explanation for life or some sort of life lesson with each story.
Scientology does the same thing, only it involves intergalactic aliens and all sorts of futuristic high-tech gizmos. But, essentially, the lessons that are trying to be taught and the messages that are being delivered are all one in the same.
Personally, I think that all religions deliver the same message. All of the stories involved (whether it be Christianity, Muslim, Judaism, etc) are used to help explain things that happen in everyday life. I think that using the example of Greek Mythology explains that best. The stories are sooooo elaborate and unrealistic, but, they all carry some sort of explanation for life or some sort of life lesson with each story.
Scientology does the same thing, only it involves intergalactic aliens and all sorts of futuristic high-tech gizmos. But, essentially, the lessons that are trying to be taught and the messages that are being delivered are all one in the same.
HE1FiNEARTiST
Banned
I hope this marks the beginning of the end.
http://www.popeater.com/2010/05/13/amy-scobee-scientology-book-tom-cruise/?ncid=webmaildl2
http://www.popeater.com/2010/05/13/amy-scobee-scientology-book-tom-cruise/?ncid=webmaildl2
Tom Cruise
Just saw this as well.
no weirder either, anytime you got to believe in invisible unprovable shit...it's a bit weird to me
