Sarah Palin: Is She Really Going To Make a Difference In The Election??

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
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Bingo! Not to mention a lot of working and/or family women identify with her.. and she like guns and hunting to boot. Brilliant choice IMHO. :thumbsup:

Aye. She's got the wal-mart vote. I wonder if she likes being 'that', tho.

Savior milf republican backwoods cute-glasses lady, I mean.
 
Aye. She's got the wal-mart vote. I wonder if she likes being 'that', tho.

Savior milf republican backwoods cute-glasses lady, I mean.

Thats her people lol.The republicans have two main constiuencys that make up there base.The affluent rich folks who care about their taxes who oppose dems on those issues and ones that Palin represents who care about guns, gays and god and see the dems as a threat to that while they like everyone else who is not rich are being given a screw job.I can actually understand the rich folks and their support of the the republicans its the walmart voter as you call them that has been duped into voting against their own interests in the past.But that can only go on so long before things get so bad economically for those people that they see what they have been doing to themselves with support of the republicans and start deserting them wholesale.I'm not sure if we are there yet we will see in a couple months I guess.
 
Some of you guys need to stop generalizing and stop being elitist. Jeez...

I personally vote based on one issue: national defense. Not only is it my living, but it's what I've chosen to do to make a difference. So I will probably vote for her ticket (with McCain of course), and I don't shop at Walmart and I don't kill babies, and I don't screw the government (the government hires former C and D students for the most part, they do quite well with that all on their own...).
 
Shooting a caribou
Is the last taboo
Shh, they might learn
That that you like to put deer in the urn
How embarrassing that is
At least, it's much better than having them quiz
Your 17-year-old daughter harlot
Who rejoices in sucking off strangers a-lot
You're so corrupt like a Borgia
You Might even start a war over Georgia
Why don't you fuck off and smoke marijuana
We'll be better off with Obama
 

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Some of you guys need to stop generalizing and stop being elitist. Jeez...

I personally vote based on one issue: national defense. Not only is it my living, but it's what I've chosen to do to make a difference. So I will probably vote for her ticket (with McCain of course), and I don't shop at Walmart and I don't kill babies, and I don't screw the government (the government hires former C and D students for the most part, they do quite well with that all on their own...).


The dem constituency is always dead set on stealthily / serruptitiously collectivizing the misery. :rolleyes: :sleep: . . .beholden to the downtrodden welfare state . . . forever and ever. . . ahmed ! :tongue:

and not a peep about the exorbitant wealth of those who make it all possible . . thank you Nanci Pelose, with her winery and vineyards and upscale real estate investments. . . Barbra Boxer in her Porsche Boxter living in one of the most expensive zip code regions in America ! . . . and then there's Di Fi . . . :pukey:

Bring it all down girls !!
 
this is the way i look at it....Obama may not have as much "expierence" as McCain supposdly does but millions upon millions of people have been persuaded by Obama and his viewpoints that he will take this country in a much better direction then what has happend in the last 8 years with that horrible attempt at a presidency george w. bush had. So people KNOW him and what he stands for..now McCain brings this person sarah palin into the mix and nobody knows anything about her or who she is and people are gunning on that she will take the country in a better direction then obama if she was at the top of the ticket then mccain.
i personally think that having palin on the ticket with john mccain did help the republicans a lot but i don't think it will be enough to go over obama and biden. i'm looking at obama and biden edging mccain and palin.

i did my research on sarah palin and i did not like what i saw of her, i do like mccain, but not as much as obama and biden. because a person can have all the expierence in teh world but if you aren't going to try and move this country in another direction towards a brighter light then your expiernce means absoulely nothing. that is why i'm supporting obama and biden.

oh and lets not mention the vice presedential debates is going to be VERY intresting...i can't wait
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
Some of you guys need to stop generalizing and stop being elitist. Jeez...

I personally vote based on one issue: national defense. Not only is it my living, but it's what I've chosen to do to make a difference. So I will probably vote for her ticket (with McCain of course), and I don't shop at Walmart and I don't kill babies, and I don't screw the government (the government hires former C and D students for the most part, they do quite well with that all on their own...).

Well sure. But a society based around the weakest traits of the people will produce those same qualities in its leaders. I mean it's just fanciful talk anyway, but a leader should definitely rise above and do the right thing.

Ehh, I guess I'm being pessimistic, but I think those that are incapable of leading often find themselves in leadership positions. Palin is a take-charge kinda gal, sure. She can definitely be a leader, but besides disagreeing wholeheartedly with her views and yes, dredging up the experience issue.. she's just not an *experienced leader*. I'm sure she's the center of the PTA meetings, and she can distract everyone with her looks and dammit even democrats are stunned by the beauty and controversy in her past and present.. in my opinion so much so that they're forgetting the future while everyone scrambles to sort out petty shit that doesnt seem to have any clear answers:

Banning books, creationism, gays, abortion, etc. Of the few interviews actually available with Palin she's chosen her words too carefully and too vaguely regarding those same issues. Many people cant back someone who thinks we're in some American version of a holy war and wants to reinforce abstinence as safe sex. It doesnt take a year of interrogation and interviewing to realize that there is something fundamentally wrong.. with that fundamentalist. ;)

But by the time the elections come around, who knows if everyone will still be in a stupor over all that same petty shtuff or if her .. disturbing beliefs.. will shine through as dangerous to many.

We're not so far removed from the past where beliefs, differences and religion were deadly sins to those in power. It's not overdramatics to refer to recent American history as a lesson. Slavery, communist witch hunts, religious fanatics (scientology equally as bad as Koresh or Graham), hate crimes (On the rise), oh.. and I'm a Jew who every so often is asked 'Didnt jews kill jesus?'.

Bah, it does seem dramatic every time I reread it. Eh, I just have to think about Bush blatantly starting this 'Hoily War' and disregarding that seperation of church and state thing for the last 8 years. That's some scary shit! :eek:
 
Honestly, I usually skim over your comments because they're usually an impenetrable mish-mash of odd symbols, parenthesis and disjointed arguments lacking in clarity, but I'll take the time to try to respond for once...

To suggest that we know precisely what is going on in the realm of globe warm / climate change is as crazy as one's belief in religion itself ! (devil's advo) :tongue:

What on earth is that supposed to mean? It's just some sceptical, obscurantist remark that could be applied to any scientific theory or proposition.

As far as science goes, the evidence strongly suggests that human beings are at least partially responsible for climate change.

It's simply amazing that after 8 years of that idiot in the White House, the best that the Republican Party have been capable of producing is a woman who makes George W. Bush look educated and progressive on the issue.

Why not just champion diversity ?

Diversity? You mean the sort of diversity where a pseudoscientific belief on a par with alchemy and astrology is taught in secondary school science classes? I'm not a fan of that kind of diversity, no.

Secondary school students aren't supposed to be taught diversity in science class. They need to be equipped with a basic understanding of the natural world, and the tools to think critically.They aren't even always given the full picture per se -- quite often, they're provided with gross simplifications to facilitate understanding, which they later learn to be completely untrue, if they pursue their studies to more advanced levels. That's how jam-packed the curriculum needs to be -- it has no room for such hokum.

Kenneth R. Miller debunking creationism and discussing the implications of it in the educational system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohd5uqzlwsU

She may worship whoever she likes . . or not. I elect my politicians on account of how I believe they will serve the best interests of America, not the interests of a given religious, or areligious ideology.

Funny how you don't apply that same standards to Barack Obama, considering how busy you've been trying to out him as a Muslim. You've already suggested you think he's a terrorist infiltrator or something similar, no? Why I'm bothering replying to such a stalwart conspiracy theorist, I have no idea...

As I've already pointed out, her attitudes aren't secular. They're about enabling other creationists to push a particular religious perspective into the science curriculum where it has no business being there. Her religious ideology clearly isn't a private matter then.
 
Nearly every Alaskan will soon receive a check for $1,654 plus $1,200 energy assistance (total $2,800) , their share of the state's oil riches, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin announced.

The dividend checks are derived from the state's oil royalty investment program and distributed each year to eligible residents — just for living here for a full calendar year.

Slightly more than 600,000 men, women and children in 248 communities will receive the dividend this year, according to the Revenue Department. The state's estimated population is just over 670,000 people.

Anyone who has lived in Alaska for a full calendar year can apply for the money — including children. Of those receiving checks this year, about 41 percent — or 244,695 of the state's residents — were born in Alaska.

"I want you guys to invest this wisely," Palin told the large crowd that gathered Wednesday for the announcement of this year's dividend in Valdez, the terminus of the state's 800-mile (1,287-kilometer) trans-Alaska oil pipeline.

I want to know what did Obama actually do one thing to change America. Palin jumped start to build the pipeline, the Trans-Alaska pipleline to supply energy to the lower 48 states by giving 500 millions dollars to TransCanada to build the pipeline. It will be completed by 2016-2017 !

It is the largest project in the history of United States for a state to engage in a 4 billion dollar project !!!
 
Don't confuse people with facts Lovejoy... Obama has done PLENTY for ALL Americans and people of the world. :D

Wait...
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Let's all be honest with eachother for a moment...

Nobody involved with this election (McCain, Obama, Biden, Palin) has done anything for this country as of yet. They've all been "locally" involved up until now, so saying that a candidate hasn't done anything for our country is a pretty moot point as of right now.

:2 cents:
 

hiimrudd

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Some, I might of voted for mcCain 8 yrs ago but the cons insistence on numbnuts, threw that all out the window. We shall see what happens this time around.
 
This woman scares me, she's a right-wing radical that I don't think is a good idea for this country. Having McCain/Palin is just a continuation of what we have now and we see how well that is going. Other than the fact that I believe he's too old to be running, he's just a repeat of the current. Also, personally since there is a minimum age limit to be the prez, I think there should be a maximum and he's far beyond that point.

And I've got a stupid question, why is religious beliefs an issue with this? Isn't there supposed to be separation of church and state? uhhh hello?

Honestly what has this woman done that is so great? She's the governor of a state of only 670,000 people...uhh where I'm originally from NYC there are 8 million people..sooo what's so great here? Also, she comes from a state where one of the biggest industries is what? hmmmm could it be oil, how convienient is that?

Her pro-life position is an archaic philosophy and is not realistic in these modern times and I do not think anyone has the right to tell anyone else what they can or cannot do with their body...morality cannot be legislated.

Like many conservatives, it is apparent that money is more important than keeping a healthy safe environment...

And like many conservatives believe they should shove their religious beliefs in everyone's face and that they are right and everyone else is wrong. Whos says so?

If these people get into office, it will just be a repeat of what we have now and I don't want to hear anyone crying about it later on down the line.

thats my :2 cents:
 
It's a sad state when this country's future is somewhat shapped by the media. Barrack was supposed to destroy McCain,become the first "african american" president, the end of eight years of Bush's reign, a new beginning....but then Palin came into the picture and bamm now that's in question. Yes she has made a huge change into this campaign way more than Ronmey would have made, the media's initial onslaught attack on her got an equal backlash of women and men supporting her. I think she has taken Barry of the spotlight as the media darling and now the media might reconsider on how they are going to make history...the first woman vp in office and then take out McCain and make her the first female president so then fat ass Michael Moore can come out and say " I told you so"...(then again that might not happen)
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
This woman scares me, she's a right-wing radical that I don't think is a good idea for this country. Having McCain/Palin is just a continuation of what we have now and we see how well that is going. Other than the fact that I believe he's too old to be running, he's just a repeat of the current. Also, personally since there is a minimum age limit to be the prez, I think there should be a maximum and he's far beyond that point.

And I've got a stupid question, why is religious beliefs an issue with this? Isn't there supposed to be separation of church and state? uhhh hello?

Honestly what has this woman done that is so great? She's the governor of a state of only 670,000 people...uhh where I'm originally from NYC there are 8 million people..sooo what's so great here? Also, she comes from a state where one of the biggest industries is what? hmmmm could it be oil, how convienient is that?

Her pro-life position is an archaic philosophy and is not realistic in these modern times and I do not think anyone has the right to tell anyone else what they can or cannot do with their body...morality cannot be legislated.

Like many conservatives, it is apparent that money is more important than keeping a healthy safe environment...

And like many conservatives believe they should shove their religious beliefs in everyone's face and that they are right and everyone else is wrong. Whos says so?

If these people get into office, it will just be a repeat of what we have now and I don't want to hear anyone crying about it later on down the line.

thats my :2 cents:

::reads it all, looks down at crotch::

I'm horny again. DAMMIT!

Somebody give this kid a medal. Why? Cuz I agree with the whole damned thing. Wait.. that means I'll have to buy the medal..

I'll settle for repping him. Good call. ::high fives the mirror:: YOU DA MAN!
 
Let's analyze the Sarah Palin interview with Charles Gibson on ABC.

Here it is in it's entirety:
part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNPGnZurs1k
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lxkz3n8J4Q&feature=iv
part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15kyPbNudSw&feature=iv
part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swN2YVrZrFY&feature=iv

To start, let me point out a few things I noticed.

She looked like a deer caught in the headlights when Gibson asked her if she agreed with the Bush Doctrine. It's obvious that she didn't even know what he was talking about. Then, after he explained what it was to her, she answered by saying that she believes that the US has the right to carry out a pe-emptive attack on any country that the US government labels as a threat to national security. Then she said, in referrence to the Bush Doctrine, "Thats what a McCain/Palin administration would do." So clearly they are not any different than the Bush administration when it comes to foreign policy, like they claim to be.

Also, when asked "Why do you think the hijackers attacked us on 9/11?", she said the terrorists attacked us because they hate us for our "ideals". Please! This means that she subscribes to that tired old Bush "They hate us for our freedom" rhetoric. She clearly has zero understanding as to why terrorists want to carry out attacks on the US. Either that or she is lying about the reasons, like other republican politicians do, and is just feeding more bullshit to the unintelligent masses that comprise the republican base. And if that is the case, then she's a cynic and a liar.

I also had an issue with her claims that she has foreign affairs experience because, as she puts it, "Alaska is close to Russia", even though she admits that she has never even met a foreign leader in her life.

I find it a little vexing that she can't just admit that she doesn't now shit from shinola. I mean, she didn't even know what the Bush Doctrine was. Pathetic.

What you guys think?
 
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