Saints win superbowl! In ya face!!!

ed007

Banned
The last sentence is the excuse. No one else plays it nor has any interest in playing it. From my stand point and many of my countrymen, the title of best in the world can be applied. Its kinda the same way we on earth run the Mr. Universe tournament. Since we are the only ones that we know of in the universe, to us, the winner of this tournament is the best in the universe. I hope you get what i am saying, rather than me just sitting here rambling on.

I see your point but I'm sure it's played in other parts of the world, isn't it?
I just can't think of another country in the same situation that would call themselves world champions.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I see your point but I'm sure it's played in other parts of the world, isn't it?
I just can't think of another country in the same situation that would call themselves world champions.

I think the NFL is a little different than most domestic leagues because of its size. The NFL is bar non the biggest sporting league in the world, and it is watched by people around the world. Also, the sport is only played in the United States. I think it makes sense for them to call themselves world champions.

Something like the Premier League cannot crown a world champion because there are other high caliber leagues of the same sport. With the NFL it is the only major American football league; all other leagues in other countries are played due to interest, mostly. Not to mention FIFA usually hosts a club championship for teams. The team that wins that is the world champion.
 

ed007

Banned
^^ So it's all about size. Ok, so if China started playing American football and developed a league that was bigger than what America has the winner of their NFL league can call themselves World champions even if they have never played anyone outside China. If you can do it so can they, right? :2 cents:
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
^^ So it's all about size. Ok, so if China started playing American football and developed a league that was bigger than what America has the winner of their NFL league can call themselves World champions even if they have never played anyone outside China. If you can do it so can they, right? :2 cents:

The size matters because the NFL is the only American football league. If China somehow created a larger league, then they would be in the same deal as soccer in Europe - they would have to play the Americans because there is another league that is comparable to them in skill level. As it stands now the list of world class American football leagues begins and ends with the National Football League; it represents the highest level of American football. Hence, they are the best in the world at American football. Another term for that is world champions.

It is not the same as, say the National Hockey League, which is the highest level for hockey. In hockey's case, there are several high caliber leagues in Europe - most notably the KHL - which could challenge the NHL on the ice. In American football's case, it is played in one country (With annual games in Toronto and London), and it is the only professional league of its kind. There is no other professional American football team, and if there is, the NFL is so massive and well known it attracts all the best players, leaving the other leagues with second-rate players. This is sort of what happened with leagues like the XFL (Of course, the XFL just sucked entirely, so that's a bad example). The only other notable professional football league in North America is the Canadian Football League, which plays another version of the game.

Being the only pro league for American football, as well as the largest sports league of any kind in the world, it makes sense that the Saints can call themselves the world champions; they won the highest competition of their sport. By your logic, the winner of the FIFA World Cup is not a world champion, because there are comeptitive teams in the world that do not get a chance to play in the World Cup.

Is it a little stuck up to call themselves the world champions? Yes. That doesn't make it untrue, though.
 
Yeah, fuck you. And fuck everyone else that rooted for the Saints. Fuck their fans. Fuck their coach. Fuck their dumb shit owner. Fuck the French Quarter. Fuck the city of New Orleans. They don't get to mention the fucking hurricane ever again in reference to deserving anything. That's it, they're done. You have your fucking title now. May you never win one again. And I never want to hear the name Katrina in my life. You've had 5 fucking years to get over it. Move on!

I'm fucking angry, disappointed, and shocked all at the same time. Indy was outplayed and out-coached. It's really that simple. Brees performed better than Manning, and Payton had his team more well prepared than Caldwell. The game boils down to that. Payton's decision to try an onside kick was the turning point of the game. I never expected this outcome. Regardless of how they performed during the rest of the season, Indy was not the better team in this game.

This one is going to sting for a very long time. Congratulations to Drew Brees. I truly am happy for him. As great a QB as he is, he's a better human being ten times over. He's given so much back to Purdue and the city of New Orleans. The same kid I watched play 30 college games is now a Super Bowl champion and MVP. That's cool as fuck. He deserves all the accolades and awards he receives.

If I have a daughter, I think i'll name her Katrina
 

ed007

Banned
The size matters because the NFL is the only American football league. If China somehow created a larger league, then they would be in the same deal as soccer in Europe - they would have to play the Americans because there is another league that is comparable to them in skill level. As it stands now the list of world class American football leagues begins and ends with the National Football League; it represents the highest level of American football. Hence, they are the best in the world at American football. Another term for that is world champions.

Fair point but NFL = national football league. In my view using the word world implies you have played against at least one other country but you haven't.
Why can't you call it what it is champions of America? That makes more sense.
 
Fair point but NFL = national football league. In my view using the word world implies you have played against at least one other country but you haven't.
Why can't you call it what it is champions of America? That makes more sense.

It kinda makes sense both ways really. Yes, being the champions of America would make sense since they are playing only teams from America. On the other hand PlasmaTwa explained things the way i couldn't. The NFL is the ONLY sports league of its kind. It is the pinnacle of American football where only the elite players who play the sport play or strive to play in. They recruit from all over the world, not just in America. There are players from Europe, the Carribean, Africa, and south America(granted most players from other countries who play in the nfl went to school in the states). The NFL is where the big boys play. Sure, there are leagues of American football played in other countries, but these guys are dwarfed by the immense talent in the NFL.

I guess you can say that Size and Talent is what it is all about. To put it bluntly, there is simply no competition beyond the American shores for American football, or Gridiron as you Brits call it. Until the day comes when other countries in the world take serious interest in the sport and put together their own pro teams and leagues that rival the NFL, then those who win the super bowl will continue to call themselves world champs. A little arrogant to refer to themselves as that, but for the most part, few are gonna argue that they aren't because most people outside of America dont give a flying fuck about this sport. The rest of the world is the domain of Soccer or Futbol or whatever. The roles are flip flopped because most Americans dont give two shits about soccer.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
I woke up angry. I woke up angry because I now live in a world where the Saints are NFL champions and it wasn't just an awful dream.


Andronicus put a fine point to my feelings about that loathsome city.
Fuck their fans. Fuck their coach. Fuck their dumb shit owner. Fuck the French Quarter. Fuck the city of New Orleans. They don't get to mention the fucking hurricane ever again in reference to deserving anything. That's it, they're done. You have your fucking title now. May you never win one again. And I never want to hear the name Katrina in my life. You've had 5 fucking years to get over it. Move on!
 

Ace Bandage

The one and only.
:1orglaugh
as a Cubs fan, you should be used to this one "better luck next year"

The difference is that I expect the Cubs to fold in September. That's what makes us the "lovable losers." When we tank in the postseason, it's not much of a surprise. But Peyton is clutch. Say what you will about him, but there's nobody I'd rather have with the ball during a two-minute drill. That's what made the pick so deflating. To me, it was a given that he was going to lead us down the field and tie the game. I was prepared to roll the dice in overtime. That play put the game out of reach. I was at a Super Bowl party with about 16 other Colts fans. Nobody said a word, when he threw the interception. It was very surreal. Essentially, the game was over...
 
Colts still had a hell of a season. Next season, Dwight Freeney will be back to full strength and so will Bob Sanders.
 
I woke up angry. I woke up angry because I now live in a world where the Saints are NFL champions and it wasn't just an awful dream.


Andronicus put a fine point to my feelings about that loathsome city.

Wow. An awful amount of haters in here. Let the city relish in their joy no matter how fleeting. I have friends that live their and they would have been happy if the Colts won or not. They were just happy that the Saints got there, win or lose. After all, Peyton IS a New Orleans boy and there would have been no hard feelings had he won.
 
All I gotta say is, we never even made it to ONE superbowl ever in 43 years! We made it, and we won and I'm glad for that, cus Louisiana is my state. We could never make it again, but at least we have one, let us have our time just this one time.
 

Philbert

Banned
While we are just enjoying the team winning the Superbowl, others are just busy hatin' like they do most of the year...it's a game, none of us are players, and we really don't need to care that much outside of the fun parts.
Really...

World Champs!!! N'awlins Saints!

(Where y'at, 316sherm? :D)
 
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