Sad & Simple Proof There is No God

[Mariahxxx]

Re: Sad & Simple Proof There is No God

no, I'm not knocking on your door. There are thousands of threads to participate in, they don't have to join in on the discussion if they choose not to. This is nothing more than one link among the rest. If I am preaching to them, it's only because they are choosing to listen. I don't care that people are in a church doing their thing, so I don't go into the church.

They choose to join in, so how do you say I'm trolling when I only have this discussion in the threads that I start?

Big difference. If I were jumping into other threads and saying this then you would absolutely right. That would be trolling. But creating a thread with a topic and then discussing it within that same thread is hardly trolling. Maybe they are the trolls who come into another thread and start bashing the person who started it with personal attacks rather than discussing the topic?????? ever think of that?

 

[Mariahxxx]

thank you animous fox! well I do differ on your comment. the bible says we are all gods ********, yet it sure seems like some of us get much better treatment than others. a ***** is born innocent of sin according the the bible. so why are they ******** and starved to death? i think that the notion that a god loves is very believable for the fortunate ones. its easy to rely on jesus dying for our sins when you are a sinner. its easy to use god to explain things that science has yet to explain. but to turn entertain the thought that a god who loves us all would allow such suffering and horror is tough to swallow. it for this very reason that the bible says jesus died the way he did, so that we would not have to endure the suffering. yet, the suffering continues.

 

[Thoros]

I did think of that and I don't condone the name calling, but are you starting these threads because you wanna have a reasonable, thougt provoking conversation, or beacause you know that it will start a war and inflame a bunch of people? When you open with a bunch of sad pictures of poor, starving ****, then blame god for it, and essentially the people who believe in him, it points to it being the latter.

Edit: Also people can choose to ignore the threads but they still have to see them when they are browsing.

 

[Mariahxxx]

so we should pretend they dont exist so we dont offend people??? it is the fucking religious people who should be the MOST upset by this happening in the world.

go read my posts in other threads. read my posts in my foodie thread. look at my twitter and facebook and website and my blog. not one single place will you find me being negative or inflaming people are arguing with anyone. I feel that it's important for people who have very much established themselves as believers to be INVITED into a discussion about the atrocities in the world and how their loving god is allowing it.

I dont go to other threads. I dont hijack threads like people like eric does with my theories and conspiracies. I dont push my agenda on other people. I created some threads that were open for people to either ignore or join in. they join in, then get pissed off. that isn't my fucking problem.

 

[sean miguel]

thank you animous fox! well I do differ on your comment. the bible says we are all gods ********, yet it sure seems like some of us get much better treatment than others. a ***** is born innocent of sin according the the bible. so why are they ******** and starved to death? i think that the notion that a god loves is very believable for the fortunate ones. its easy to rely on jesus dying for our sins when you are a sinner. its easy to use god to explain things that science has yet to explain. but to turn entertain the thought that a god who loves us all would allow such suffering and horror is tough to swallow. it for this very reason that the bible says jesus died the way he did, so that we would not have to endure the suffering. yet, the suffering continues.

I understand where you're coming from. I think that every time some ***** is ******** and ****** - how can God let that happen to some innocent *****? But if you're to go with what the bible says, this is a fallen and broken world. And it doesn't say that Jesus died so we wouldn't suffer in this life (11 of his 12 disciples were put to death) but that we wouldn't suffer in the next.

 

[Mariahxxx]

boy that's a very easy cop out isn't it? god is perfect, yet his ******** are ********* each other in his name???? god is perfect yet hundreds of millions of **** are starving? god is perfect yet ******** are preyed upon by people who have taken oaths to serve god??? god is perfect yet there is horrific things done to helpless and defenseless people every second??

there's a reason that atheism is the fastest growing minority and Christianity is shrinking at a record rate.

 

[sean miguel]

boy that's a very easy cop out isn't it? god is perfect, yet his ******** are ********* each other in his name???? god is perfect yet hundreds of millions of **** are starving? god is perfect yet ******** are preyed upon by people who have taken oaths to serve god??? god is perfect yet there is horrific things done to helpless and defenseless people every second??

All of those are true yet none of those prove that God doesn't exist or isn't perfect. You're discounting the matter of free will.

 

[Thoros]

It kinda seems like all these threads are you pushing your agenda on people. This is a semi-public (in that anyone can join) porn forum and you are coming in and telling people that they should believe what you believe. How is that not pushing your agenda. Like I've said, I agree with you about religion, but what you're doing is futile. I have also seen a fair bit of hateful name calling on your part, whether provoked or not, two wrongs dont make a right.

 

[Mariahxxx]

how am I pushing my agenda on people when I start a brand new thread? Again, they join in on MY discussion topic on their own. If they don't like the topic they are not required to join in are they? is my post listed in bigger or bolder print than the others? Nope.

so when people voluntarily join in a discussion, they do so willingly. There are a lot of threads about things I think are sickening and twisted and stupid, so guess what? i don't read them. I don't take part in those discussions. its as simple as turning a station on the tv if you don't like what's on.

ah yes, free will.

 

[sean miguel]

how am I pushing my agenda on people when I start a brand new thread? Again, they join in on MY discussion topic on their own. If they don't like the topic they are not required to join in are they? is my post listed in bigger or bolder print than the others? Nope.

so when people voluntarily join in a discussion, they do so willingly. There are a lot of threads about things I think are sickening and twisted and stupid, so guess what? i don't read them. I don't take part in those discussions. its as simple as turning a station on the tv if you don't like what's on.

ah yes, free will.

^ she's absolutely right.

 

[Thoros]

That's still pushing your agenda. When someone reads through the list of threads and theres one that says "Heres proof that there is no God! by Mariahxxx" we know what your agenda is and that you want us to read it, regardless of us opening it or not opening it. You're just trying to "stir the pot" and get people riled, and maybe thats what this forum needs, but you can't deny thats what you're doing. And to me, no offense im not trying to be a name caller or get you upset, thats kinda trolling.

 

[Mariahxxx]

ok well clearly you feel that reading every post even when you dont agree with the subject & title is irresistible so I don't know what to tell ya. trolling is taking over another topic and steering it to your own topic. I have NEVER done that. I start my own topic and stick to it.

So what if I stir the pot? That's one thing that religion certainly needs when you have a huge percentage that say they are believers yet don't even know why other than that's how they were raised.

Again, if you don't like the subject I make sure it's right int he title of the thread, then move on. Don't read it. Don't participate in the thread. Find another. Start your own. whatever.

 

[sean miguel]

but the debate is important. most religious people dont even know why they believe other than they were told to when they were ****.

I couldn't agree more with that statement.

 

[Thoros]

Idk why but I feel the need to reason with you and I guess that puts us in the same boat. I do enjoy the debate but I feel a little more tact could be used. This has been a thoroughly enjoyable conversation and I hope I haven't offended you but now I must leave.

 

[Mariahxxx]

ok then. have a wonderful day. It takes a lot more than a debate on a message board to offend me

 

[Jack Davenport]

Once I get a bead on a personality and a posting style I pretty much let them rant and rave all they want. Mariah strikes me as the ring leader type. I am willing to bet that her girlfriends don't give her any lip because she has a potty mouth and will come at them like a bull dog if they stand up to her. There is no way possible that Mariah and I would get along in real life because I have a habit of telling people off myself and our personalities would clash. She is fun to watch Mariah act the fool from a distance though.

 

[Mariahxxx]

you would LOVE me BC. we may have a sameness in handling our opinions but our opinions are so drastically different that you would be fascinated by me!!!!!!!!

for those of you with a low IQ I am FUCKING AROUND and not serious. I'm joking.

But seriously, I'm not really like that with my friends. I have some VERY strong minded people in my life and we get along fine. Some of us totally disagree on religion and politics so we just dont talk about it. we have fun with other things and that's what friendship is about.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Bullshit Milano. You have muthafuckas walking on eggshells around your house lol

 

[Mariahxxx]

you would be surprised


have yo ubeen to parts of paris in safety harbor? its pretty decent french food. im headed there for lunch today with one of my followers I mean friends

 

[Jack Davenport]

No I have never dined there. Honestly I am not a huge fan of French cusine. I have pretty limited things I like. A meat and potatoes kinda guy. I will admit that I am a little intrigued with you because you are against most of the things i am for and have made angry on this board a bunch of times but i laugh at those stupid faces you make likd when you showed the video of you flying into the exumas and fanning yourself because it is hot. The porn chick that i have seen and the bitch on the bnard don't seem to match.