Redefining My Personal Politics

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Any advice would be appreciated. I'm not a fan of the socially conservative agenda and I'm not convinced of conservative economic philosophy and those were the two main influences that kept me Liberal/Democratic for the last twenty five years. I've soured on the liberal agenda, I'm tired of giving a fuck about special interests that don't give a fuck about me. At any rate, I think it's safe to say that I'm no longer a Democrat, but neither am I a Republican, calling myself "independent", or "moderate" just seems like a cop-out. Anyway, here's to a Brave New World!
 
Any advice would be appreciated. I'm not a fan of the socially conservative agenda and I'm not convinced of conservative economic philosophy and those were the two main influences that kept me Liberal/Democratic for the last twenty five years. I've soured on the liberal agenda, I'm tired of giving a fuck about special interests that don't give a fuck about me. At any rate, I think it's safe to say that I'm no longer a Democrat, but neither am I a Republican, calling myself "independent", or "moderate" just seems like a cop-out. Anyway, here's to a Brave New World!

You're an independent. Fiscally responsible, socially liberal.

You my friend, are a libertarian.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
What is your opinion of Bernie Sanders' policy proposals?

Single payer healthcare?

The second amendment?

Single Payer; needs more study.

2nd Amendment; I'm from Texas, what do you think my stance on guns is!?
 
Single Payer; needs more study.

2nd Amendment; I'm from Texas, what do you think my stance on guns is!?

That it's should be more than a right but a requirement? Like Every 5th male child born in the state is required to be named "Colt" and play QB at the minimum high school level.

I kid. But yes, God bless Texas.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
That it's should be more than a right but a requirement? Like Every 5th male child born in the state is required to be named "Colt" and play QB at the minimum high school level.

I kid. But yes, God bless Texas.

Every time you renew your drivers license in Texas you get a free handgun and bottle of whisky.

Libertarians are essentially isolationists. You have no interest in traveling overseas. You can't get any more libertarian than that.

Duly noted. I don't know if it's mid-life crisis or something else, but there ya go, no longer affiliated with the Democratic party.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Ok, Jim Jones, I'll be skipping the Kool Aid.

I think that was Morpheous, Jim Jones MADE YOU drink the Kool Aid....or suck on the barrel of a gun, which ever seemed more pleasant.
 

Rattrap

Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
Any advice would be appreciated. I'm not a fan of the socially conservative agenda...
Reasonable, considering it's morally bankrupt.


...and I'm not convinced of conservative economic philosophy...
Also reasonable, considering it's intellectually bankrupt.

...and those were the two main influences that kept me Liberal/Democratic for the last twenty five years. I've soured on the liberal agenda, I'm tired of giving a fuck about special interests that don't give a fuck about me. At any rate, I think it's safe to say that I'm no longer a Democrat, but neither am I a Republican, calling myself "independent", or "moderate" just seems like a cop-out. Anyway, here's to a Brave New World!

You need to parse out "liberal" from "Democrat". The Democratic party is a center-right-authoritarian party. They're only considered 'left' to myopic Americans who only have the far right-now-fascist Republicans to compare them to. Bernie Sanders is the first main party contender to even break left of center in a long time. No, the Democrats are only slightly less a corporatist party than the Republicans - neither gives a shit about you.

No, that's like being a Scientologist.
Libertarianism, while being far more intellectually honest than the Republican's brand of conservatism, is a fantasy, because it only works if people act as they should. Fun fact, they don't - and those people who make bad choices don't just lie down in the street and die. They come for your shit. So you pay for them, one way or the other. It isn't right or fair, but that's life.

Single Payer; needs more study.
See: the rest of the western world (yes, they're not all single payer, they've got different flavors, yaddya yaddya - the point is still there).

Duly noted. I don't know if it's mid-life crisis or something else, but there ya go, no longer affiliated with the Democratic party.
I'm not old enough to have paid attention to the Democratic party pre Bill Clinton, but other than being the less reprehensible on social issues, there hasn't been much good of it since Bill Clinton. And there won't be until democratic voters wake the fuck up and vote out the likes of the Clintons, Booker, Pelosi, Schumer, etc.

I'd say the same of Republicans, but they're so far down the rabbit hole it's a lost cause. When one wholeheartedly embraces pure fantasy, purely made up shit - when evidence no longer matters - there is, literally speaking, no reasoning to be done anymore. Idiocracy in full. It's why I've got a number of folks here on ignore - it's a complete waste of time communicating with people beyond reason.

Anyway. I've not yet decided whether the best hope going forward is trying to reform the Democratic party or really bolster something new, but I'd recommend one of those.
 
"Libertarianism, while being far more intellectually honest than the Republican's brand of conservatism, is a fantasy, because it only works if people act as they should. Fun fact, they don't - and those people who make bad choices don't just lie down in the street and die. They come for your shit. So you pay for them, one way or the other. It isn't right or fair, but that's life."

This is a good example of "if you listen to liberals sometimes they will be honest about who they are".

What he wants to say is that people can't be trusted to "act as they should".. government has to make sure they do.

There is so much fantasy in this guy's post, it should be put in paperback form with a photo of Fabio on the cover.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Ok, Jim Jones, I'll be skipping the Kool Aid.

I stopped drinking the Kool Aid a few years ago. Even many years ago but I just couldn't process it at the time.
Youre still sucking it down like a 5 year old with a hangover.

Like I said I can only show you the toilet.........
I know I've disrupted your slumber. When youre ready you'll wake up.
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
I though I was a Conservative but someone on this board called me a Libertarian. The political climate has changed where the fringe on both sides are more defining the left and right. Moderate and Centrist and Independent are derogatory terms. They try to make us look wishy washy and noncommittal. Fuck them. I will not let the masses define me and make me go left or right. This is where I stand on issues.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Aside from meester, all great replies; meester, you're just an asshat, a likeable asshat, but an asshat all the same.
 
Any advice would be appreciated. I'm not a fan of the socially conservative agenda and I'm not convinced of conservative economic philosophy and those were the two main influences that kept me Liberal/Democratic for the last twenty five years. I've soured on the liberal agenda, I'm tired of giving a fuck about special interests that don't give a fuck about me. At any rate, I think it's safe to say that I'm no longer a Democrat, but neither am I a Republican, calling myself "independent", or "moderate" just seems like a cop-out. Anyway, here's to a Brave New World!

Fuck all these labels man. Liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican, etc. It's all so stupid. Labeling in politics divides us. We shouldn't be dividing, we should be uniting. I remember back in the primaries when I was talking to a coworker of mine and I told him I liked Sanders' message. He's an older fella and apparently he didn't take that well and then proceeded to tell me that I must obviously be a socialist Democrat and that I subscribe to Communism and such. My reply to him was that why can't I just simply like Sanders' general message without being labeled a socialist? Why must you label me? Don't let anyone label you and box you in. Don't fall into their trap
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Fuck all these labels man. Liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican, etc. It's all so stupid. Labeling in politics divides us. We shouldn't be dividing, we should be uniting. I remember back in the primaries when I was talking to a coworker of mine and I told him I liked Sanders' message. He's an older fella and apparently he didn't take that well and then proceeded to tell me that I must obviously be a socialist Democrat and that I subscribe to Communism and such. My reply to him was that why can't I just simply like Sanders' general message without being labeled a socialist? Why must you label me? Don't let anyone label you and box you in. Don't fall into their trap

Fucking the labels is one of the reasons I'm not identifying as liberal/democratic anymore, taking it to the next logical step, you're right, no need to re-brand myself.
 
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