The Captain said:
I haven't gone to church in years. I'm convinced that churches are nothing more than organized cults. They take the bible, or what ever religion they are apart of, and twist it around into a facist movement. Hitler would be proud of them. The only underlying message in the bible is don't perpously hurt anyone. The rest of it is full of contradictions which is why we have so many of these groups out there that see whatever they want in it and ram it down everyone elses throats. They say they preach peace and tolerance. Well, I don't see that from them at all.
Well... I take EXTREME exception and offense to THAT comment, TheCaptain. Comparing religion - ANY kind of religion, regardless if it's mainstream Christian, Buddhist, Catholic, Agnostic, what the fuck ever - to the atrocities that
Adolph Hitler perpetrated against the Jewish people is by far and above the most ignorant and heartless comment ANYONE has ever made on this Board. I have to say: wtf?!?!
I understand you are entitled to your views and opinions... and believe it or not, I tend to agree with you a good majority of the time. But this time, you failed to truly think of the consequences of how you worded your post. While Christianity does have its problems - inherent and created - it still has been a driving force in the world today. And how you could link the two is beyond me... it's not even logical.
Quite frankly, I can't even begin to fathom how you could possibly even think to associate Adolph Hitler with Christianity... or religion in any form, thought, or substance.
As for tolerance, peace, love, acceptance, and all the other major tenets of virtually any major religious organization?
I can only speak with authority for my faith: Christianity (i.e., Lutheran - E.C.L.A.) My church does a LOT of humanitarian work: Blood drives, AIDS assistance, working with the elderly, homeless missions, Armed Services fundraisers, etc. We are but a small church of 100 members... and EVERYONE pitches in. I've yet to see a single member of that congregation refuse to help another soul in need. As a matter, I was one of the recipients of their outpouring of love not too terribly long ago. I've also yet to see or experience anything but tolerance, peace, love, and acceptance within that congregation. I guess, too, it's owed to the fact that my former mentor is the pastor there... a former 60's hippie who grew up in Kansas and moved to Haight & Ashbury in the 60's. A true flower child was he... and yet, you couldn't ask for a more spiritually minded teacher.
The only underlying message in the bible is don't perpously hurt anyone.
I totally disagree with this statement, TheCaptain. I'm not going to turn this into a religious/atheistic/agnostic debate, nor will I "cram" my views "down your throat", but if you truly believe that statement you made.... more's the pity for you, man. I'm not a Bible-thumper by any means... and if you were to read some of the more "theologically-oriented" (loosely termed) threads on this Board, you'd see that I have issues of my own with most organized religion, BUT... to boldly state something so inaccurate, I have to say that I feel for you.
Regardless of its "religious" contents, the Bible itself contains a LOT of wisdom, common sense, and insight. (i.e., Proverbs, Psalms, Song Of Songs, Matthew, etc., etc.)
Like I said, I won't fault you for your views or opinions. Normally I would issue out negative REP for something like this, but I'm not going to do that this time. I'll support those views with my dying breath, but please... don't EVER associate Adolph Hitler with Christianity or any other religion ever again. One promotes life, love, and spirituality in its most elegant and simplest form while the other only promoted hatred, intolerance, greed, deception, and utter evil while obliterating an entire ethnic community.
I found it very offensive. You went entirely too far, TheCaptain.
Respectfully,
QBall