Racism in Porn

[BioDefenseGrad]

Having worked in a video store for a Year and seen what kind of people rent what---I'll say that the majority of the hardcore offensive racist stuff like Spring Thomas and Shane Diesel and Blacksonblondes is bought by Black males. Not the "Gully" dudes who dress in outlandish Hiphop fashion, but the more straight laced guys, and the black power types.

Of course that stuff wouldn't be terribly popular without weirdo, self-hating White men who prop up sales of that stuff. They couldn't even look me in the eye when they were renting it. Oh and I'll guess that plenty of them are bisexual or closeted gay as well because they'd rent strap-on and cuckold shit as well. Asian guys rented that stuff as well, but they don't have many options in the Western porn market.

By far the most normal stuff was rented by Latino guys.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

That's because monikers like "Whitey" and "Cracker" have no meaning to contemporary white society. It's not particularly offensive and I could care less if some ignoramus chooses to use it as a slur.

Obviously you're not from the hood or grew up with a lot of lower class black people. Where I'm from, white people don't call themselves a "whiteboy" in some self-deprecating joke, it's usually something they are called in the run up to a fight. So Whitey and Cracker is offensive to people who've had to deal with it.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

On a side note. I watch part of an HBO special which dealt with the prospect of some Mississippi High School having separate proms based on race.

In an interview with a white set of parents, the mother stated she believed God didn't intend for races to mix because if He did He would have made us all one race.

First of all, I thought logically to myself that you can't mix anything that is the same. Secondly if someone as all knowing as God never intended it he would have made it anatomically impractical if not impossible....not so anatomically similar. Lastly holding that position would almost require that you hold a similar position on food and nutrients. In other words, if God wanted us to get certain nutrients in order to maintain good health, what would be the purpose of putting them all in different food sources.

This is not a detraction or advocation of one position over the other by me, merely an analysis.

She might have just said that I want my family to best preserve our heritage by marrying someone within our ethnic group. Jewish-American groups have spent MILLIONS over the last two decades to reverse outmarriage trends because they believe it's key to preserving their community. With Whites being a global minority and shrinking by the year (mostly due to whites delaying or foregoing childbirth, not interracial relationships) this may cause tensions which lead to debate on how white/white relationships or lack thereof, are portrayal in the media.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

I'm not sure who decried anything. I personally don't get why some people even care since the market is met by those who will.

Certainly though if you think there is a hue and cry over chicks not doing it, you should witness the "totalitarianism" meted out by those who actually decry some chicks doing it.

Now if you really want to see and hear some vile, disgusting, extremist hatred try listening to some of the feedback some of those chicks get.

Touche'?

I wouldn't mind either if so much of it weren't offensive to white people.

 

[Hot Mega]

Having worked in a video store for a Year and seen what kind of people rent what---I'll say that the majority of the hardcore offensive racist stuff like Spring Thomas and Shane Diesel and Blacksonblondes is bought by Black males. Not the "Gully" dudes who dress in outlandish Hiphop fashion, but the more straight laced guys, and the black power types.

Of course that stuff wouldn't be terribly popular without weirdo, self-hating White men who prop up sales of that stuff. They couldn't even look me in the eye when they were renting it. Oh and I'll guess that plenty of them are bisexual or closeted gay as well because they'd rent strap-on and cuckold shit as well. Asian guys rented that stuff as well, but they don't have many options in the Western porn market.

By far the most normal stuff was rented by Latino guys.

Interesting but probably not a conclusive observation. As the same kind of offensive, racist stuff is made using the reverse combinations of race.

Surely any observation would be subject to some micro or macro demographic factor as well.

In my mind, the stuff you cite falls more in the degradation category (of which there are many different depictions) more than I/R.

I/R nowadays since there is more diversity on the creative side and more outlets is merely different race performers engaging in the same plots and story lines if you can take that stuff seriously as other porn.

I/R doesn't pertain to a style of porn as some seem to be indirectly suggesting. It's more a matter of contents in the box (so to speak).

 

[ChefChiTown]

This thread (among others) have been going on for quite a while, so I haven't read every single post, but has anyone stopped to think that there might be black women in porn that won't sleep with white men? Or, white men that won't sleep with black women? Or, black men that won't sleep with white women?

It's not always white people being racist against black people, you know.

Just throwin' it out there.

 

[Hot Mega]

She might have just said that I want my family to best preserve our heritage by marrying someone within our ethnic group. Jewish-American groups have spent MILLIONS over the last two decades to reverse outmarriage trends because they believe it's key to preserving their community. With Whites being a global minority and shrinking by the year (mostly due to whites delaying or foregoing childbirth, not interracial relationships) this may cause tensions which lead to debate on how white/white relationships or lack thereof, are portrayal in the media.

Well she should said that. But what she did say was the same rhetoric people before her have said time and time again as they were committing all kinds of atrocities against other races....not merely preserving the white race.

I wouldn't mind either if so much of it weren't offensive to white people.

What do you mean? I/R porn is inherently offensive to whites in your opinion?

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Interesting but probably not a conclusive observation. As the same kind of offensive, racist stuff is made using the reverse combinations of race.

Surely any observation would be subject to some micro or macro demographic factor as well.

In my mind, the stuff you cite falls more in the degradation category (of which there are many different depictions) more than I/R.

I/R nowadays since there is more diversity on the creative side and more outlets is merely different race performers engaging in the same plots and story lines if you can take that stuff seriously as other porn.

I/R doesn't pertain to a style of porn as some seem to be indirectly suggesting. It's more a matter of contents in the box (so to speak).

I really can't argue with anything except the bold. The reverse does exist, and seems to be building up steam--ala Cumbang or GhettoGaggers-- but at NOWHERE near the same level. Even with a 70% white country, the amount of BW/WM porn appears to be small in comparison to the number of BM/WF or BM/XF porn.

In the end, I think the real problem lies with the subset of white men who buy that stuff. It points to severe issues within the psyche of white men that is truly disturbing, and I believe is a product of conditioning by the media.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Well she should said that. But what she did say was the same rhetoric people before her have said time and time again as they were committing all kinds of atrocities against other races....not merely preserving the white race.



What do you mean? I/R porn is inherently offensive to whites in your opinion?

I should clarify that. I made it seem that it's inherantly offensive, what I want to say is that most of it is offensive. Much of the time it seems that it's not even made for the love of white women, but to belittle white men, degrade white women and in general to make a negative statement about white/white relationships.

And on the IR tip, compare it to a guy like Mark Anthony who makes the stuff I'm talking about but also makes a bunch of films where he flies down to Brazil to fuck beautiful non-African American women. I'm not sure if Brazilian men may find it offensive, but I don't detect the racism that I see in much of the BM/WW porn. It looks like pure ass worship, booty love. Not hate.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

This thread (among others) have been going on for quite a while, so I haven't read every single post, but has anyone stopped to think that there might be black women in porn that won't sleep with white men? Or, white men that won't sleep with black women? Or, black men that won't sleep with white women?

It's not always white people being racist against black people, you know.

Just throwin' it out there.

There are white guys who won't sleep with black women, that's why until recently you'd see many of the same dudes (like Dave Hardman etc.) showing up in BW/WM porn. Yeah there are definitely BW who won't make films with WM, heck you can even tell in many SCENES that these women feel uncomfortable, but in a BlckonBlck film they're fine. That may be due to family concerns or may be just because they're unfamiliar with white men.

On top of it all, soooo much of the BW/WM porn has been garbage for so long. I think a lot of white dudes feel goofy around black women, like they can't interact with them unless it's kind of a goof like that wretched cumbang.com where they don't even fuck the women. If I had a black girlfriend and she wanted to see some IR porn, it would have to be a very short list. Maybe RoundandBrown.com and a few others.

 

[anomaly]

Close it. Let's deal with the real issue.

 

[Hot Mega]

I really can't argue with anything except the bold. The reverse does exist, and seems to be building up steam--ala Cumbang or GhettoGaggers-- but at NOWHERE near the same level. Even with a 70% white country, the amount of BW/WM porn appears to be small in comparison to the number of BM/WF or BM/XF porn.

In the end, I think the real problem lies with the subset of white men who buy that stuff. It points to severe issues within the psyche of white men that is truly disturbing, and I believe is a product of conditioning by the media.

Hold on for a second....You do understand the stuff Spring Thomas (for example) does is not the extent or majority but a minority of I/R porn don't you??

That's aside from the fact that their are plenty of titles and series (White Boy Stomp, Black Street Hookers, etc.) which depict the reverse combinations. Also, who do you think is fucking all of the Asians and Latina chicks?? That's I/R even though in many cases it's not classified as such.

But again, beyond all of that the material you cite more than likely belongs in a class of porn more specific to degradation not necessarily I/R. I/R gonzo stuff is the same style of porn as other gonzo just with different race combinations.

One thing you fail to recognize is that there are nowhere near the amounts of BF performers as there are WF performers. And certainly many, many more WF performers than BM and WM performers....so undoubtedly it will be the case that you'll more than likely find a WM performing with a WF and a BM performing with WF. If you look up ANY genre the prevailing performers will be WF.

But to suggest (assuming you are cognizant of the implications) that a white chick who merely performs a normal scene with a BM where he fucks her, she cums 3 or 4 times then catches a nut in her face is somehow inherently more degrading than a chick kneeling between a circle of 6 cocks with a fist up her ass taking gallons of jizz to the face because the cocks are white may bely something quite disturbing of one who believes that IMO.

 

[Hot Mega]

There are white guys who won't sleep with black women, that's why until recently you'd see many of the same dudes (like Dave Hardman etc.) showing up in BW/WM porn. Yeah there are definitely BW who won't make films with WM, heck you can even tell in many SCENES that these women feel uncomfortable, but in a BlckonBlck film they're fine. That may be due to family concerns or may be just because they're unfamiliar with white men.

On top of it all, soooo much of the BW/WM porn has been garbage for so long. I think a lot of white dudes feel goofy around black women, like they can't interact with them unless it's kind of a goof like that wretched cumbang.com where they don't even fuck the women. If I had a black girlfriend and she wanted to see some IR porn, it would have to be a very short list. Maybe RoundandBrown.com and a few others.

Honestly BioDG....you should research the subject a little more than what was in the video store you once worked. Bearing in mind....it was the owner of the store you worked who was the one who actually purchased the material to which customers are then limited to.

But you really have a fairly unsophisticated knowledge base on the subject that isn't supported by the reality. Many of the top WM performers in the past have performed with BF performers. Tom Byron, TT Boy to name a couple (of many) have made dozens of titles with BFs.

Many of what you state is not founded in reality at all and apparently based on a narrow exposure to the subject.

 

[max0rz]

just for fun, take a gander at the website names in this list her
http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/c23/Interracial.html

This thread (among others) have been going on for quite a while, so I haven't read every single post, but has anyone stopped to think that there might be black women in porn that won't sleep with white men? Or, white men that won't sleep with black women? Or, black men that won't sleep with white women?

It's not always white people being racist against black people, you know.

Just throwin' it out there.

there's a whole webiste for that genre, lol. It's one of these in the incrediblepass network
http://www.incrediblepass.com/main.php?

 

[Harpguy]

Taylor St Claire was described as racist because she belonged to a racsist organization that was believing in the white race superiority. In that case, she was and is a damned racist.
Jill Kelly and Ashton Moore (I can't remember the name of the movie sadly) as well as Shyla Stylez did interracial because they felt comfortable with.
Briana Banks or Puma Swede never did interracial because perhaps it is not in their perspective nor in their will to do it. Our society is a society of freedom and Fox, you can't accuse of someone of being racist just because his/her choices are different from yours and because he/she has the freedom and the right to choose who he/she wants to fuck and be with.

Briana Banks did IR under her original porn name, Mirage.

 

[AshleyORobbins]

It's funny, because I'm actually surprised that a lot of women in the industry are open to any race. I don't know of any white chick I like that hasn't taken a black cock.

 

[JJRawlings]

Re: racisim in porn

Boy heres a topic that is deep.Let me start with I know 2 porn stars I like who I have heard won't do interraical.Penny Porsche and Vicky Vette.With Penny I have never heard a reason but with Vicky I have read accusations she has belonged to racist groups but I still think she is Hot.:thumbsup:
But on the bigger issue of racism I think its is not as simple as you are or you aren't.The USA at least has lingering racism which I think everyone has been influenced by.I've seen polls where 80% of white americans say there not racist yet the realities of conditions don't bear that out.So my conclusion is these people are in deep denial.I know many will say I'm full of you know what and shout loudly "Im Not Racist".Finally let me just say that I am fine with someone not having sex with someone else for any reason even when you do it for a living, and would not call that unfair discrimination.But when you lock up,execute,keep in poverty etc. dispraportionately any group and racism is seen as one of the major causes that is wrong.:2 cents:

Penny Porsche said it's because she doesn't find black men attractive and she went on to say that she likes her fat old clients. As an escort, she refused service to black men too but she claims not to be racist.

 

[jasonk282]

Everyone has a bit of racism in them, some people just tend to keepit to them sevles better than others.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Everyone has a bit of racism in them, some people just tend to keepit to them sevles better than others.

I also think racist people may become less racist over time, without "intervention" by do gooders. I also think people may become "burned out" with racism or seeing a racial struggle in every issue. Dr. Gates for example, he made a LIVING off of race debate, made some rather racist comments over the years. When this latest incident touched off, he came out looking bad, and you can tell he just has said to hell with it all. I wonder what it's like being one of his students this semester?

 

[meesterperfect]

yeah, racism in porn, right. I was on a porn set once.
Mr marcus and mandingo were forced to use different bathrooms than the white folks.
the black chics had to sit in the back of the bus, and the directer kept calling lex steel boy.

whats with this love affair with the word racist with some of you people?
I think some of you actually getsexually aroused when using it.
I know where you get it from, man, take hold of your thoughts and clear your heads, wake up, look around