Racism in Porn

[BlueBalls]

That is just like saying that I'm a homophobe because I dont wanna fuck a man.

You are, and so am I and probably 90% of the board, Im not saying whos in that 10% im just saying his name starts with S, but were all right wing totalitarian bastards who dont like other people, we would all want to fuck our cousins buy as many guns as possible and shoot anything that has darker skin than us. Those of us who make out to be liberals (me included, im a socialist ) are just putting up a front because were trouble makers who should be ass raped by a big sweaty guy named Earl and his skinny cousin Skeeter and then strung up with the common evil folks who just dont look and act the way we do.

And as soon as this Ideology comes into the minds of the entire Earth then truly we will live in a Utopia the likes of which havent been seen since Eden, Oh and by the way you all have to belive in god because your an outsider if you do and we dont take kindly to strangers around these parts.

I dont know why I just posted that ^ but dont read it, its just ramblings of an insane man :hatsoff:

 

[ChefChiTown]

I think the race card is like a wild card in poker. When you play it, you think you're going to win. When someone else plays it though, you're like "SIIIIIGH, here we go again".

 

[Spleen]

I think the race card is like a wild card in poker. When you play it, you think you're going to win.

true story.

The Race Card

 

[Friday on my mind]

true story.

The Race Card

I like the part about getting unearned jobs, positions and opportunitys etc.GWB and McCain should have their pictures next to that as great examples of it.GWB only got into Yale cause daddy went there and McCain got in the naval academy cause daddy was an admiral and he just barely made it through.But we don't like affirmative action right,except for needy rich white folks lol.:rofl:
Seriously I will listen to all this whinning about AA etc when people stop letting the ones who still have all the advantages overwhelmingly still keep them.It has never been about getting the best person with no regard to other things and probably never will be.But nobody minded very much when it was the Bush's and McCain's of the world benefiting at the expense of not only minority's but poorer whites.

 

[D-rock]

I like the part about getting unearned jobs, positions and opportunitys etc.GWB and McCain should have their pictures next to that as great examples of it.GWB only got into Yale cause daddy went there and McCain got in the naval academy cause daddy was an admiral and he just barely made it through.But we don't like affirmative action right,except for needy rich white folks lol.:rofl:
Seriously I will listen to all this whinning about AA etc when people stop letting the ones who still have all the advantages overwhelmingly still keep them.It has never been about getting the best person with no regard to other things and probably never will be.But nobody minded very much when it was the Bush's and McCain's of the world benefiting at the expense of not only minority's but poorer whites.

I know plenty of non-elite people, like the vast majority of them, of every background that have always been pissed off that the Bushs, Kenedeys...ect of the world always have an unfair advantage so I don't know what your talking about. The rich will get ahead no matter what. The problem (or biggest problem because it has several) with affirmative action is that it totally screws over POOR white males, the group that are really the most screwed over group anymore, for no other reason than they just happen to be the same race as either the majority, or the same race as people that did bad things in the past that they had absolutely nothing to do with. As a poor white man, please tell me of all these so called advantages I have had my entire life, because quite frankly, I have never seen them. I do however constantly get beat out in jobs around here by places that support affirmative action and have a 20% black employment when they only make up around 2% of the population where I live, while I have been struggling to find a job for YEARS. Or how about all those years I had to spend paying off my one year of college because I couldn't really pay to continue. If I was a minority I would not only of had a lot better chance at a free ride scholarship (or a lot closer to it) but I probably would have automatically beat out countless people who were my equals or betters without having to worry about if I was even going to get excepted. Why can't we have a system that is needs based. If that helps a bigger percentage of minorities because more of them are poor than I can reasonably see that. What I don't like is just pushing people ahead because they are a certain race, gender, or whatever. At the very best affirmative action is an incredibly half-assed solution that doesn’t really fix the problem and at worse is just as discriminatory, unconstitutional, and damaging as what it's trying to fix.

 

[Friday on my mind]

I know plenty of non-elite people, like the vast majority of them, of every background that have always been pissed off that the Bushs, Kenedeys...ect of the world always have an unfair advantage so I don't know what your talking about. The rich will get ahead no matter what. The problem (or biggest problem because it has several) with affirmative action is that it totally screws over POOR white males, the group that are really the most screwed over group anymore, for no other reason than they just happen to be the same race as either the majority, or the same race as people that did bad things in the past that they had absolutely nothing to do with. As a poor white man, please tell me of all these so called advantages I have had my entire life, because quite frankly, I have never seen them. I do however constantly get beat out in jobs around here by places that support affirmative action and have a 20% black employment when they only make up around 2% of the population where I live, while I have been struggling to find a job for YEARS. Or how about all those years I had to spend paying off my one year of college because I couldn't really pay to continue. If I was a minority I would not only of had a lot better chance at a free ride scholarship (or a lot closer to it) but I probably would have automatically beat out countless people who were my equals or betters without having to worry about if I was even going to get excepted. Why can't we have a system that is needs based. If that helps a bigger percentage of minorities because more of them are poor than I can reasonably see that. What I don't like is just pushing people ahead because they are a certain race, gender, or whatever. At the very best affirmative action is an incredibly half-assed solution that doesn’t really fix the problem and at worse is just as discriminatory, unconstitutional, and damaging as what it's trying to fix.

Needs based is fine,that would still mean more minority's benefit though as you mention so you would still hear some of the same resentments over it.
And just as a side note that is what Obama supports.But I don't think there is any truth that you are better off as a minority in any way yet even with affirmative action programs.Even many working class whites get advantages within our system because they are white and have in-roads that minorities do not.Its not just rich ones who get jobs or other things because daddy had them but working class ones as well.

 

[Goose88]

It is racism. Regardless of what or who porn stars are, there job is to have sex with people. Why not do interracial? Its just another chance to have sex no? Whats funny is that people say the actress may not be attracted etc... You think the girls are attracted to all the 200+ white guys they will work with? You think girls are attracted to Ron Jeremy etc..?

I know its a personal decision but it is racism and it cannot be helped. The industry has it setup that way. By treating it like "interracial" or giving its own genre, you are already creating something that wont be defined as normal.

I once read a story where a porn actress was pissed to learn the "light-skinned" guy she had sex with was actually half-moroccan. Why would you be pissed after learning he was "different"??

Its the way the industry is setup. No one views White Male/ Asian Female as interracial anymore. Its fully accepted and girls like Asia carrera closed any divide etc... But where are the Asian Males with White Females? Non-existent etc... Where are the latino men with white or black women?

I read an interview with Stormy Daniels who said she didnt want to do interracial because thats the only thing her mother forbids. She said why would she throw the one thing her mom doesn't want in her face? I'd say most girls are afraid of industry implications or what they're brothers or fathers of family will think. Particularly since a lot of porn stars are from mid-west or southern states where racism is still prevalent.

 

[ChefChiTown]

It is racism. Regardless of what or who porn stars are, there job is to have sex with people. Why not do interracial? Its just another chance to have sex no? Whats funny is that people say the actress may not be attracted etc... You think the girls are attracted to all the 200+ white guys they will work with? You think girls are attracted to Ron Jeremy etc..?

Most female porn stars pick and choose who they want to work with.

I don't think it's racist at all if a girl doesn't want to have sex with a black guy, or vice versa. I'm white but I'm not sexually attracted to black girls or asian girls all that much...so am I racist because of that? :dunno: No. I'm just a dude who isn't sexually attracted to black girls or asian girls...that's it.

:2 cents:

 

[max0rz]

lol, it seems TPTB have decided to just screw political correctness, and run with it.
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[brother212]

I have never come across racism in porn ever!

you're not being honest or you're blind.

 

[brother212]

Most female porn stars pick and choose who they want to work with.

I don't think it's racist at all if a girl doesn't want to have sex with a black guy, or vice versa. I'm white but I'm not sexually attracted to black girls or asian girls all that much...so am I racist because of that? :dunno: No. I'm just a dude who isn't sexually attracted to black girls or asian girls...that's it.

:2 cents:

If your ONLY reason is their color and race, then YES, you are a racist. Maybe not in the violent sense of the word, but it's racist all the same. People like to change language for personal reasons. Sorry. Language is language.

 

[Psychology]

lol, it seems TPTB have decided to just screw political correctness, and run with it.
http://www.adultdvdmarketplace.com/dvd_view_182792.html

Wow

 

[anomaly]

More of this nonsense............:dunno:

 

[meesterperfect]

nonsense? didn't you know that mr. marcus and lex steele are forced to use a different bathroom and eat in a different location than the white people on the set?

 

[anomaly]

nonsense? didn't you know that mr. marcus and lex steele are forced to use a different bathroom and eat in a different location than the white people on the set?

I hope you are joking?:1orglaugh

 

[Gordar]

nonsense? didn't you know that mr. marcus and lex steele are forced to use a different bathroom and eat in a different location than the white people on the set?

I think anomaly is referring to this thread being bumped and the idea that white pornstars who don't fuck with black pornstars are racist.

Anyway, I've already said everything I have to say about this (last post of page 3).

 

[waterboy8]

Wait a minute if the only race is the Human Race.....Then there is no such thing as racism.Right? Maybe ethnicism?(look that word up) Assuming I am a white male and I call up a black escort.She sees me and says I don't sleep with white guys. Does she have to sleep with me ,Or are all her personal liberties null and void because I am paying her?
Anyone who calls themselves Liberal (American) should maybe think twice,or five or six times.

 

[Hot Mega]

To whatever extent racism exists in porn it does mainly as a result of racism in society. If you don't accept certain types of work because it goes against your personal tastes, that's a completely legitimate position since it's probably true that the best performances happen when there is good chemistry. However, if you are deciding against certain work because you believe racism by the consumer will affect your personal bottom line then you're part of the problem IMO.

Racial bigots tend to not only want to exercise their rights not to view interracial porn but determine for others what kind of porn they should produce. Their primary protest is of black guys fucking white chicks as any protests of white guys fucking other races are conspicuously absent. (I know, do as I say not as I do).

There was some industry or studio dust up involving Mr. Marcus' relationship with Silvia Saint some years ago. I don't quite know what the matter was about but from Mr. Marcus' tone there was the suggestion that it was something involving race.

I personally don't think racial bigotry is an overwhelming problem in the industry and no more of an issue than maybe sexism. The problem is the industry needs to cater to markets and a big market is the U.S. south where porn is susceptible to bastardized obscenity laws used to attack interracial porn. Consistently so, it's probably the case that bigots wield their influence to attack studios who produce it. Invariably it can have an impact as porn producers don't want their entire bottom line affected by a niche. They'll just decide not to produce that niche IMO.

 

[Katja]

Ok guys lets just keep this plane and simple. It should be quite obviouse and clear that there is rascism in porn! Both pornstars and the industry itself can show rascism. Chicks won't do IR for all kinds of reasons whether it's due to money, there concern of how the public will view them, rascism, ect. However we don't know the clear reasons a porn star will or will not do something. People will only make assumptions on the choices porn stars may make in their careers, but they don't know. What is true is that there is rascism all over the world in every day life, and the porn industry is no different. Its everywhere. Im sorry, this just seems like a kind of duugh! thread.

 

[calpoon]

I think I almost got banned over this thread.

Oh well, here's my final summation of the topic for this year:

I think it comes down, as all things usually do, to the situational context: Could such an instance be seen as racist towards the person involved in it and do they have reasonable justification to feel that way?

I think the answer can be assumed to be a yes. If I was a say, black male porn actor and a white female porn actress stated that she would not work with me because she "wasn't attracted to black people", I think that It could quiet naturally feel like I had been personally insulted and a slight against my race, as well as potentially harming my career by being denied the opportunity to work with her over other equally competent white actors.

We don't know what her intentions were but I think both counts betray a lack of consideration of either parties perspectives and feelings and it is legitimately a difficult situation.

I think the only fair solution would be for her to not make such a statement and simply go about her business of who she chooses to work with or not without acknowledging race as a motivating factor.