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There's nothing to be cautious about. All the guys in porn are clean. No condoms are necessary in porn.

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Perhaps it is clean.....but to say that there is nothing to be cautious about is insane. You may live in an area that doesn't record a whole lot of vehicular accidents, but that doesn't mean that you're not gonna wear a seatbelt and drive cautiously.
 
Anyone can go out and drive a car and be reckless. In porn, there are rules to adhere to and you get tested like crazy. Porn stars are 100% clean and I stand by that. I always had great respect for Rachel, but I'm somewhat disappointed with her decision to use condoms. If she's offended by my posts, then I do apologize, but that is just how I feel. I honestly think she is worrying over nothing. She's been in the business for years, she's had sex with hundreds of guys and look, she's not infected!! That just proves that there is nothing to be cautious about.
 
What is you anal rate?

If I were bangbros I would create a paypal account and allow the subscribers an option to pay the fee. I realize the subscribers already pay a monthly fee, but I would still give them an option. If the amount is met then you do anal, if its not met then bangbros does whatever they want with it or donates it to a charity the subscribers choose.

BangBros pays you your fee and in return provides the subscribers who paid the video/pics...I realize some subscribers will not contribute in paying your fee and yet they will still get to see the scene, but if your fans are willing to pay for it then who cares.

They could do something like that every month or so...for example, porn star whoever hasn’t done anal/dp/gb/ir/whatever "pay her fee and she will" I would say the fee being paid would have to be something never done or rarely done of coarse because people wouldn’t contribute to see straight sex.

This could also be done with stars who choose not to do hardcore…Bangbros approaches them and the star says $10,000 and I’ll do hardcore b/g porn…Bangbros lets its subscribers know and they can pitch in to make it happen.

In return for the subscriber paying the stars fee bangbros lets the subscribers choose what type of scene/clothing/acts/male performer etc… via a poll or something.

But what do you do if the pornstar pulls out of the deal and now all the donors want all their money back. Or what if it takes 2-3 years to get enough $ pooled together and people get impatient in the meantime and again want their $ back and cancel subscriptions. Could get tricky.

If she'd done lets say 10 anal scenes at a lower rate over the last year (but still higher than her normal b/g rate), then she'd have made WAY more $ than she will on that 1 magical anal payday she'll be forever waiting waiting for.

Who do you think has made more $ in their last 10 scenes: Rachel or Asa Akira (who now does everything under the sun, btw)? Altho I dont want Rachel getting anywhere near as crazy as Asa has gotten, but if the name of the game is money (and why shouldn't it be?) then eternally holding out for that 1 big payday will make you less $ than accepting a lot of slightly less big paydays one after another. Afterall, anal scenes do carry a higher pay rate than regular vag scenes.

I understand what she's trying to do, but 1 pornstar (even Rachel) can't make a difference and start getting these companies to start paying their fair share to these girls (which they should). I actually think its a noble effort, but I think the change has to come from the management companies 1st. If LA Direct and a couple of the other talent agencies started playing hardball with the porn companies, then I think that would make a big difference. But Rachel alone is unfortunately just another grain of sand on the beach to these companies. Meanwhile, if she could only make (lets say) 50% more per scene by doing anal, then thats still 50% more she wouldn't have made otherwise. How big could that 1 big anal payday she's holding out for be, compared to all the money she'd make with a string of anal scenes. I mean no matter what at the end of day she's still Rachel Fucking Starr and she'll still be making more for an anal scene than just about anyone else.

Also, it would be nice if she'd at least go condomless with selected male talent.
 
But what do you do if the pornstar pulls out of the deal and now all the donors want all their money back. Or what if it takes 2-3 years to get enough $ pooled together and people get impatient in the meantime and again want their $ back and cancel subscriptions. Could get tricky.

If she'd done lets say 10 anal scenes at a lower rate over the last year (but still higher than her normal b/g rate), then she'd have made WAY more $ than she will on that 1 magical anal payday she'll be forever waiting waiting for.

Who do you think has made more $ in their last 10 scenes: Rachel or Asa Akira (who now does everything under the sun, btw)? Altho I dont want Rachel getting anywhere near as crazy as Asa has gotten, but if the name of the game is money (and why shouldn't it be?) then eternally holding out for that 1 big payday will make you less $ than accepting a lot of slightly less big paydays one after another. Afterall, anal scenes do carry a higher pay rate than regular vag scenes.

I understand what she's trying to do, but 1 pornstar (even Rachel) can't make a difference and start getting these companies to start paying their fair share to these girls (which they should). I actually think its a noble effort, but I think the change has to come from the management companies 1st. If LA Direct and a couple of the other talent agencies started playing hardball with the porn companies, then I think that would make a big difference. But Rachel alone is unfortunately just another grain of sand on the beach to these companies. Meanwhile, if she could only make (lets say) 50% more per scene by doing anal, then thats still 50% more she wouldn't have made otherwise. How big could that 1 big anal payday she's holding out for be, compared to all the money she'd make with a string of anal scenes. I mean no matter what at the end of day she's still Rachel Fucking Starr and she'll still be making more for an anal scene than just about anyone else.

Also, it would be nice if she'd at least go condomless with selected male talent.

Very good points. No refunds could be given. If the star backs out that’s the risk the contributors take and the risk the star takes with her fans. Bangbros could take the money and get another star etc. I think you would have to put a time limit on the process (2 weeks/ 1 month)...It depends also on what the rate is, I have no idea what these girls charge so my thoughts/ideas on the matter could be pointless...lol. Also, I didn’t even think about the talent agencies. Adding the agencies into the mix shoots my idea down.
 
Anyone can go out and drive a car and be reckless. In porn, there are rules to adhere to and you get tested like crazy. Porn stars are 100% clean and I stand by that. I always had great respect for Rachel, but I'm somewhat disappointed with her decision to use condoms. If she's offended by my posts, then I do apologize, but that is just how I feel. I honestly think she is worrying over nothing. She's been in the business for years, she's had sex with hundreds of guys and look, she's not infected!! That just proves that there is nothing to be cautious about.

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Have you ever seen gonorrhea, chlamydia or syphilis before? Did you know that syphilis in it's chronic stage can cause neurodegeneration and heart disease? Did you know that gonorrhea in it's chronic stage can cause liver disease, and septic arthritis? These are not afflictions that you play around with in this day and age.

Simply put, it doesn't matter how clean the industry is.

There is nothing wrong with using a condom if you're concerned about contracting STD's, ESPECIALLY if it's immediately following after an outbreak.

And yet you have the overt audacity to say that you are disappointed in an adult star for using a condom to protect themselves?! That has to be the most asinine comment I've read in a long time.

I applaud Rachel....she's taking the measures to protect herself, and she's smart for doing so.
 
but if the name of the game is money (and why shouldn't it be?) then eternally holding out for that 1 big payday will make you less $ than accepting a lot of slightly less big paydays one after another. Afterall, anal scenes do carry a higher pay rate than regular vag scenes.

This is just a thought, but I don't think Rachel really cares about that. If she did, she would have logged more than one anal scene by now.

Just a thought......
 
This is just a thought, but I don't think Rachel really cares about that. If she did, she would have logged more than one anal scene by now.

Just a thought......

Ah yes, of course. Why would she care about money, anyway.

Afterall, she's a pornstar of principles dammit!
 
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Have you ever seen gonorrhea, chlamydia or syphilis before? Did you know that syphilis in it's chronic stage can cause neurodegeneration and heart disease? Did you know that gonorrhea in it's chronic stage can cause liver disease, and septic arthritis? These are not afflictions that you play around with in this day and age.

Simply put, it doesn't matter how clean the industry is.

There is nothing wrong with using a condom if you're concerned about contracting STD's, ESPECIALLY if it's immediately following after an outbreak.

And yet you have the overt audacity to say that you are disappointed in an adult star for using a condom to protect themselves?! That has to be the most asinine comment I've read in a long time.

I applaud Rachel....she's taking the measures to protect herself, and she's smart for doing so.

You know, you're right. I guess I fail to see that there are risks involved. I mean, if you look at what porn stars do.... ass to mouth, ass to pussy, creampies, etc... and you almost rarely hear of them getting any type of STD. I guess it made me think that the porn industry is 100% safe. Maybe there are more outbreaks and STDs among porn stars than I think.

I stand corrected.

Sorry, Rachel.
 

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You know, you're right. I guess I fail to see that there are risks involved. I mean, if you look at what porn stars do.... ass to mouth, ass to pussy, creampies, etc... and you almost rarely hear of them getting any type of STD. I guess it made me think that the porn industry is 100% safe. Maybe there are more outbreaks and STDs among porn stars than I think.

I stand corrected.

Sorry, Rachel.

There are many, many, many more outbreaks than the public are made aware of. The whole AIM testing debacle and their eventual demise is due to the aforementioned fact. They were not informing talent who exactly were affected. They never would publicly disclose infections. Now they are gone, the industry is left with scattered testing centres and makes the situation more-so tumultuous than ever.
 
You know, you're right. I guess I fail to see that there are risks involved. I mean, if you look at what porn stars do.... ass to mouth, ass to pussy, creampies, etc... and you almost rarely hear of them getting any type of STD. I guess it made me think that the porn industry is 100% safe. Maybe there are more outbreaks and STDs among porn stars than I think.

I stand corrected.

Sorry, Rachel.

Nothing is 100% safe when you're talking sexual activity.

NOTHING.

So it makes it rather specious when you say that it's ridiculous for a porn star to perform with a condom because you yourself have never read about outbreaks and/or STD's.

There are many, many, many more outbreaks than the public are made aware of. The whole AIM testing debacle and their eventual demise is due to the aforementioned fact. They were not informing talent who exactly were affected. They never would publicly disclose infections. Now they are gone, the industry is left with scattered testing centres and makes the situation more-so tumultuous than ever.

Very well said. :goodpost:
 
Nothing is 100% safe when you're talking sexual activity.

NOTHING.

So it makes it rather specious when you say that it's ridiculous for a porn star to perform with a condom because you yourself have never read about outbreaks and/or STD's.

You're right. Like I said, I stand corrected. I do apologize. I did not know that the porn industry covers up outbreaks. I thought if one occurs, we'd all know about it. I admit, I'm ignorant on the subject, so again, I do apologize to you and Rachel.

Now, I will say this..... if a porn star is going to use condoms, they should use on ALL TYPES of sexual acts. It makes absolutely no sense when porn stars use condoms for intercourse, but then they remove the condom when the guy cums in her mouth. I'm like.... :facepalm:

Just sayin' :)
 
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