President Obama - Profiles in Leadership

[bobjustbob]

Listen to these 2 sucking each other's dicks. "If everyone thought the same (like the left) everything in the world would be sunshine and rainbows. No room for dissent because we are never wrong." Reality check: We live in a great big nation with lots of people with different needs and wants. Both sides have had their failures and successes. You 2 are the sheep blindly believing in "the party", not me.

 

[bobjustbob]

Politicians want to keep their job or get better ones no matter who's skull they need to drive over in their bulletproof SUV.

Ain't that a fact. Just listen to the shit slung at Obama during the primaries by fellow Democrats. They learn it at the local level. Party shit slinging in my town has seen an incumbent Mayor defeated by someone she had brought into the city council. Not only did he run against her, he got the local party to not support her primary run.

 

[Johan]

Ain't that a fact. Just listen to the shit slung at Obama during the primaries by fellow Democrats. They learn it at the local level. Party shit slinging in my town has seen an incumbent Mayor defeated by someone she had brought into the city council. Not only did he run against her, he got the local party to not support her primary run.

That's politics : A shoal of hungry piranhas that just saw a piece of fresh meat

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

That's politics : A shoal of hungry piranhas that just saw a piece of fresh meat

We're all in the same boat so let's stay together trying to make those piranhas extinct. Remember, the French and Americans are allies and friends. We've been through a lot together. Let no one divide and conquer good people making them adversaries.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Whether you like Jesse Ventura or not he's right about politics.

 

[mikexmoran]

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I've seen these charts before and I don't care for them because they give a limited view of Bush's term in office and might give the appearance that you are selecting your data points carefully. Bush's tenure in office did see the government jobs right significantly more than Obama's to-date and Obama has seen growth of private sector jobs much higher to-date than Bush's tenure.

However, since you've done your research you know that once job growth began for both administrations (about 13 months for Obama and about 30 for Bush), they were remarkably steady. I wouldn't jump to the conclusions you have because both presidents took office and faced different challenges and influences and your chart is selective and ignores that point.

However, putting Obama to the side for the moment, if you wanted to say that some of Bush's economic decisions were outright stupid (since you posted the meme I'll let you fill in an example) I would support that statement with further examples.

Regarding Obama's private sector growth, one could argue that he is very much pro business and not favorable to labor. (I've seen a solid paper to this point)

Listen to these 2 sucking each other's dicks. "If everyone thought the same (like the left) everything in the world would be sunshine and rainbows. No room for dissent because we are never wrong." Reality check: We live in a great big nation with lots of people with different needs and wants. Both sides have had their failures and successes. You 2 are the sheep blindly believing in "the party", not me.

Amen, Brother!

 

[mongo18]

Listen to these 2 sucking each other's dicks. "If everyone thought the same (like the left) everything in the world would be sunshine and rainbows. No room for dissent because we are never wrong." Reality check: We live in a great big nation with lots of people with different needs and wants. Both sides have had their failures and successes. You 2 are the sheep blindly believing in "the party", not me.

What republicans have been doing for the last 6 years is not dissent, it's sabotage. Yes, everyone has their needs and wants, but what the right wants is built out of ignorance and stupidity and is hurtful to the country and they have said we will get 100% of what we want and you will get nothing. Obama's biggest failing as president was that for too long he tried to work with these people who only wanted America to fail so that they could blame it on him.
I'm so sick of this "2 sides of the same coin" bullshit. Obama and the democrats certainly don't have a 100% hit record, but it can easily be argued that overall they've worked to improve the situation of middle class Americans and improve the economy. No honest person could say the same about republicans. Republicans are shit. Every single one of you.

 

[bobjustbob]

What happened to all of that stimulus money for shovel ready jobs? Oh I forgot, there is no such thing as shovel ready jobs. But where did the money go? Warren Buffet and Steve Cohen (NRG Solar), George Kaiser (Solyndra), Larry Page and Sergey Brin (Tesla), Ronald Pearlman (Siga Tech), Al Gore (Fisker Automotive). What do they all have in common? One is that they didn't create any jobs. You should be able to figure out what number 2 is.

 

[Straight Shooter]

What happened to all of that stimulus money for shovel ready jobs? Oh I forgot, there is no such thing as shovel ready jobs. But where did the money go? Warren Buffet and Steve Cohen (NRG Solar), George Kaiser (Solyndra), Larry Page and Sergey Brin (Tesla), Ronald Pearlman (Siga Tech), Al Gore (Fisker Automotive). What do they all have in common? One is that they didn't create any jobs. You should be able to figure out what number 2 is.

I don't think you understand what the stimulus was designed to do. The stimulus kept unemployment 1.5 to 2% lower than it would have been without it. Of course the stimulus didn't restore the economy to normal levels, it wasn't designed to. You can't fill a several trillion dollar hole in the economy with $800 billion. The stimulus was designed to put a floor under the collapse

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

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They don't call him "Bathhouse Barry" for nothing. I love that hundreds of people walked out on him during a speech in Maryland. I just wish stuff like that happened seven years ago.

 

[pool_hustler]

Obama's far from being the perfect president, there are many critics to make about his presidency but still, he's way better than any of those who participated in Republicans primaries 2008 and 2012.

I fully agree.
Although, I wouldn't have been devastated if Romney had won. Or McCain, had he not picked Palin - that was "end game" for him for me.
I was a McCain supporter in 2000.....greatly preferred him to Gore.......but unfortunately Bush got the nomination.

This is your community organizer at work folks.

I always chuckle when conservatives say this. And they say Liberals are elitist

me too
And it's funny how they never mention what he did after that:
graduated magna cum laude from Harvard
president of the Harvard Law Revue
12 years teaching Constitutional law at the university level
3 years as a legal associate followed by 8 of counsel
8 years as an Illinois State Senator
4 years as a U.S. Senator

Makes me wonder what some of these folks would have said about Abraham Lincoln's (our greatest president imo) qualifications/experience as a presidential candidate:
practiced attorney
One 2 year term in U.S. House Of Representatives

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

I fully agree.
Although, I wouldn't have been devastated if Romney had won. Or McCain, had he not picked Palin - that was "end game" for him for me.
I was a McCain supporter in 2000.....greatly preferred him to Gore.......but unfortunately Bush got the nomination.





me too
And it's funny how they never mention what he did after that:
graduated magna cum laude from Harvard
president of the Harvard Law Revue
12 years teaching Constitutional law at the university level
3 years as a legal associate followed by 8 of counsel
8 years as an Illinois State Senator
4 years as a U.S. Senator

Makes me wonder what some of these folks would have said about Abraham Lincoln's (our greatest president imo) qualifications/experience as a presidential candidate:
practiced attorney
One 2 year term in U.S. House Of Representatives

The very second that idiot Ryan was attach to the Romney ticket it was just a terrible idea to vote for him.

 

[Nester6]

The very second that idiot Ryan was attach to the Romney ticket it was just a terrible idea to vote for him.

However could you select a more inexperienced president than Obama? His only program was to allow illegals and welfare to overcome this nation. ANYONE selected will be better than the abysmally weak, and no clue Obama!

 

[xfire]

His only program was to allow illegals and welfare to overcome this nation.

You don't get out of the house much, do you?

 

[Nester6]

You don't get out of the house much, do you?

Not as much as you do with your food stamps, welfare, illegal neighbors and all others costing this nation billions!

 

[xfire]

Not as much as you do with your food stamps, welfare, illegal neighbors and all others costing this nation billions!

So you're accusing me of being on food stamps and welfare? lol You're a fuckin' idiot.

 

[Supafly]

Let's not get caried away over a probably useless issue. If the only other party in the race for the presidency comes up with the likes of the last candidates, theere is not a vote between two political parties, it's :

A rational thinking (if corrupt) candidate

A crazy person with nuclear codes at his/her diusposal.

Seriously, Santorum? Palin?

 

[MustBeGood]

Unemployment Benefits Applications Fall To 14-Year Low

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/16/unemployment-benefits_n_5995812.html


But from the end of the story:

Despite the improved hiring, the job market remains scarred from the recession. More than 7 million people hold part-time jobs but want full-time work, up from 4.6 million before the downturn. And there are still twice as many people unemployed for longer than six months as there were before the recession, even though that figure has steadily declined in the past three years

Unemployment hits a six-year low at 5.9 percent. Can wages catch up? (+video)
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/n...-low-at-5.9-percent.-Can-wages-catch-up-video

For the question can wages catch up is no. US business have to pay The Greedy Piper (Stockholders, you know, people like Mitt Romney} have to find ways to increase their dividends. Americans today work for peanuts and have to live way leaner paycheck to paycheck from the past cutting back on money that can be spent on other things that drive the service economy with increase prosperity for all through the multiplier effect.

Reason why we will never get the budget deficit down unless we do drastic cuts in everything including infrastructure. Because big business with inversion practice and the rich with off shore tax shelters will do the same still as we go back to the days in Europe with rich nobles with luxury and peasants scrapping by to live.

Moral, get rid of the stock market, stop inversions, stop trading for things we always made here (Ala China cheap products in dollar stores), and pay people as the middle class drives the economy and also paying people will have them paying more in taxes to bring down deficit. People working multiple part time jobs won't cut it.

PS: Health care in America is a scam by the hospitals, equipment makers, and the drug makers. Reason why Canada makes drugs and sell them way way way cheaper from our greedy drug makers.

Ps Ps:I have a degree in Economics. Congress main profession outside of the Beltway is a law degree.

 

[MustBeGood]

Plus, the W Bush era tax cuts were suppose to create good jobs.

Yeah jobs at Lexus, BMW,......(Insert other Luxury foreign car makers0, boat makers, foreign house makers like in the French Rivera for house number who knows what, etc but not pumped back into the American economy.

 

[Supafly]

Plus, the W Bush era tax cuts were suppose to create good jobs.

Yeah jobs at Lexus, BMW,......(Insert other Luxury foreign car makers0, boat makers, foreign house makers like in the French Rivera for house number who knows what, etc but not pumped back into the American economy.

As a German, the "Trickle Down" aspect, that really worked - for our car factory workers. Possibly another reason why, NSA and everything, we still love the USA!