Palin's Ignorance Revealed During Campaign '08

[Will E Worm]

Yep, she was born in NoVA.

Sometimes I wonder if Will E comes up with his material all by himself, or if he has writers that help him... like Letterman and Leno.

Nope.

She needs to leave America. The sooner the better. :yesyes:

"Couric..okovich" :1orglaugh

It's Katie Komrade.

 

[jasonk282]

Yep, she was born in NoVA.

Sometimes I wonder if Will E comes up with his material all by himself, or if he has writers that help him... like Letterman and Leno.

He should really fire them if he does.

 

[Rey C.]

I thought that Palin's interview w/ Charlie rosy reveal a great deal ....
There IS or was no "Bush Doctrine" and Palin responded appropriately.

Wow, Sarah knows something that Patrick Buchanan and Christopher Buckley don't know. Maybe Sarah will invite Pat on her new tellyvision show and get him all schooled up on that nonexistent Bush Doctrine.

I understand the working title of her new Fox show is "Gettin' Silly from Wasilla".


And I'm not kidding that Sarah really does have a TV deal with Fox.

 

[SiCo]

Besides the Republicans and the Democrats, is there a third party in American politics to any great degree? - Te R. and D. are all I ever hear talked about. It must be very frustrating with just a 2 party system.

In the UK we have 3 (in effect - but still arguable) and we find that very frustrating. Now, thankfully, it's opening up some and we have an election on the way in the coming months. We have three minor parties which have gained a lot more attention and support …is this likely to happen stateside?

 

[Rey C.]

Besides the Republicans and the Democrats, is there a third party in American politics to any great degree? - Te R. and D. are all I ever hear talked about. It must be very frustrating with just a 2 party system.

Not really. Other than Ross Perot's effort in the early 90's, no third party has made much of a dent here (at a national level) in many decades.

Politics to us is like cars and beer. If your dad drove a Chevy and drank Budweiser, you're probably going to drive a Chevy and drink Budweiser too... hopefully not at the same time though (unless you're a Kennedy).

We like safe, limited choices. I'm amazed that Baskin Robbins 31 flavors has actually survived for as long as it has here.

Have you heard the rumor? We're fucked. Pass it along. :hatsoff:

 

[Facetious]

^ Th' Kennedys don't drink swill, they drink Beefeater or "Stolys" !

I thought something similiar for a moment but then had doubts as I know they pronounce it: Kurik rather than Kurich.

While we're on the subject of pronounciation, SiCo, is it Sicko or Psycho ?:o

 

[SiCo]

Not really. Other than Ross Perot's effort in the early 90's, no third party has made much of a dent here (at a national level) in many decades.

Politics to us is like cars and beer. If your dad drove a Chevy and drank Budweiser, you're probably going to drive a Chevy and drink Budweiser too... hopefully not at the same time though (unless you're a Kennedy).

We like safe, limited choices. I'm amazed that Baskin Robbins 31 flavors has actually survived for as long as it has here.

Have you heard the rumor? We're fucked. Pass it along. :hatsoff:

Thanks for that Rey C.

The parties in the UK are divided as:

Conservatives
Socialists
Liberals

…I get the impression the Democrats include both socialists and liberals.

 

[SiCo]

While we're on the subject of pronounciation, SiCo, is it Sicko or Psycho ?:o

Ha!

It's actually my name shortened and put together so I guess it should be pronounced Psycho. (and no I'm not Simon Cowell before you ask)

 

[BlueBalls]

Thanks for that Rey C.

The parties in the UK are divided as:

Conservatives
Socialists
Liberals

…I get the impression the Democrats include both socialists and liberals.

I'm guessing by "socialists" you mean Labour. That title - now - in no way describes them as a party. Since the advent of New Labour they've moved so central as have the Conservatives that other than a few small differences it's hard to tell them apart.

 

[Philbert]

All that asisde, she will forever be known as a quitter. Something for all girls to look up to.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908669,00.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...s-as-Governor-of-Alaska-in-surprise-move.html

Wow...so, Obama wasn't a sitting Senator when he ran? Was Joe Biden a sitting Senator when he ran? Wasn't McCain a sitting Senator when he ran?
Where does Palin leaving a job she no longer wanted to drag out (I found her reasoning credible, not the usual " I gotta better gig" most politicians leave early for) become so different from the usual reasons for leaving an elected position early?
Yeah, I know...Palin bashing is the new Black...

 

[SiCo]

By socialists you mean Labour. That title - now - in no way describes them as a party since the advent of New Labour they've moved so central as have the Conservatives that other than small differences between them it's hard to tell them apart.

Oh come on Blueballs. New Labour is *dead* …you won't see them after the next election even if Labour do get re-elected. The backbenchers are reclaiming the old territory.

I'll agree that both they and the Tories went central and the latter are still there but I'm sure during the next term we'll see greater definition between the lot of them purely because of the mounting disquiet among the people. I mean, how else do you get the Greens and the BNP coming up at the same time? People are looking for choice.

 

[Facetious]

…I get the impression the Democrats include both socialists and liberals.

The word "Socialist" has horrible public perception ramifications in the states so the dems misleadingly continue to coin themselves as liberals.

 

[SiCo]

The word "Socialist" has horrible public perception ramifications in the states so the dems misleadingly continue to coin themselves as liberals.

lol

Yeah well, the number of times I've read things like "Lib-tard" and …well, "Socialist!" in the context of an insult (I guess along with Neo-Con) pretty much tells me that.

Ho-hum.

 

[BlueBalls]

Oh come on Blueballs. New Labour is *dead* …you won't see them after the next election even if Labour do get re-elected. The backbenchers are reclaiming the old territory.

New Labour in this format is dying, I'll grant you that. But does this mean we will see the return of "Old" labour after the general election, I very much doubt it. Why? Because although those backbencher's are attempting to push their way to the forefront of the parties front line they aren't going to propose to take them back to the old guard because it's no feasible to their political aspirations.

We may see some sort of middle ground between old or new but will they be proponents of the socialistic ideals of which their party is based? Of course not because that's not what the political environment will allow.

 

[SgtMarine]

Wow...so, Obama wasn't a sitting Senator when he ran? Was Joe Biden a sitting Senator when he ran? Wasn't McCain a sitting Senator when he ran?
Where does Palin leaving a job she no longer wanted to drag out (I found her reasoning credible, not the usual " I gotta better gig" most politicians leave early for) become so different from the usual reasons for leaving an elected position early?
Yeah, I know...Palin bashing is the new Black...

If she no longer wanted to be Governator of the state, they why take it in the first place. There is no denying that she has engerized the right in America. But she did quit her job after they lost the election. John McCain was a sitting Senator and he went back to work after the election. I am quite sure Obama and Biden would have also.

She resigned due to the fact of the costs and distraction of the ethics investigation against her, did not want to be a lame duck. If she would have been honest and stated that it was to do a book deal and support the RNC who knows, people might not have gotten so upset at her.

I am a firm believer that you do your job to the best of your abilities and you complete your job all the way though. Bottom line is when the going got tough Sarah just walked away, not something you want from ANY elected offical. Sorry if you think it is Sarah bashing, but these are that facts.

 

[Rey C.]

Where does Palin leaving a job she no longer wanted to drag out (I found her reasoning credible, not the usual " I gotta better gig" most politicians leave early for) become so different from the usual reasons for leaving an elected position early?

But I thought Sarah was a rough & tough Pitbull? Good thing Michael Vick didn't get a hold of her. She'd be at the bottom of a hole now.

Maybe she was really more of a

 

[thapie]

the sun is setting on palin as far as her national political exposure goes. my only surprise is that said sun ever rose for her.

 

[SiCo]

New Labour in this format is dying, I'll grant you that. But does this mean we will see the return of "Old" labour after the general election, I very much doubt it. Why? Because although those backbencher's are attempting to push their way to the forefront of the parties front line they aren't going to propose to take them back to the old guard because it's no feasible to their political aspirations.

We may see some sort of middle ground between old or new but will they be proponents of the socialistic ideals of which their party is based? Of course not because that's not what the political environment will allow.

I don't expect we'll see 'Old Labour' on the next campaign, that's not what I meant. Labour are hurting and are looking to regain (hate this expression) their grass-roots again. Without their core they're going to be in limbo, they've paraded as conservatives to a certain degree (President Blair) I think the people want some reassurance of who and what they actually are now.

Re: your last point - I think they've been making headway towards socialism like never before. How often do they get compared with Orwell's 1984? Increasingly so and with less humour each time.

 

[BlueBalls]

I don't expect we'll see 'Old Labour' on the next campaign, that's not what I meant. Labour are hurting and are looking to regain (hate this expression) their grass-roots again. Without their core they're going to be in limbo, they've paraded as conservatives to a certain degree (President Blair) I think the people want some reassurance of who and what they actually are now.

Re: your last point - I think they've been making headway towards socialism like never before. How often do they get compared with Orwell's 1984? Increasingly so and with less humour each time.

But this is exactly the same conversation we would have been having if this was here in 1997, the Tories needed to do something drastic in order to regain composure but they didn't until a few years ago. Although if you really think about it nothing really happened just the growing disillusionment of the public towards their leaders jumping on the band wagon of the next "team" as I'll call them here in hopes of change, which I'm almost positive won't happen. So Labour have two real choices after the election, go the way of the Tories and sit on your hands until the government screws you over and drastically move in one direction or another - which I just can't see happening.

1984 wasn't about Socialism directly, it was about the dangers of totalitarianism in any form whether communistic of fascistic. Orwell was a socialist after all (or at least had socialistic leanings). But other than pledging to get rid of the ID cards what other options have the Tories put into action on this issue? None, because they aren't going to change it.

 

[SiCo]

But this is exactly the same conversation we would have been having if this was here in 1997, the Tories needed to do something drastic in order to regain composure but they didn't until a few years ago. Although if you really think about it nothing really happened just the growing disillusionment of the public towards their leaders jumping on the band wagon of the next "team" as I'll call them here in hopes of change, which I'm almost positive won't happen. So Labour have two real choices after the election, go the way of the Tories and sit on your hands until the government screws you over and drastically move in one direction or another - which I just can't see happening.

1984 wasn't about Socialism directly, it was about the dangers of totalitarianism in any form whether communistic of fascistic. Orwell was a socialist after all (or at least had socialistic leanings). But other than pledging to get rid of the ID cards what other options have the Tories put into action on this issue? None, because they aren't going to change it.

I don't pretend we'll get much different from the Tories if they reappear in their current form after the election. I do think the parties will be realigned after the next GE but I wouldn't compare this to '97. Everyone is skeptical of Dave and Co. and the parallels with New Labour have long since been about, he has no choice but to change once in power.

The "I'll cut the defecit not the NHS" line is playing to Labour voters but lets be frank, cuts are coming whichever party takes power.

You're right, 1984 was Socialism specifically but it's the instruction book Labour have been using for a good while. CCTV is now at a level still fictitious to the rest of the world, we have more than any other country.