Obama's approval rate drops......

There are things that are not being said directly because it can give a bad image.

Except for the fact that what you said is absolutely un-fucking true...as illustrated by your own stupid link...Obama states unequivocally what he believes here...I guess you make up your own facts though.

 
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What's it to be Georges?

i'd give up if i were you. :2 cents:

listen, I and other long time members have debated and argumented with some of the worst überliberals on that board, Brino, Nightfly, F o x e l i p s u s, Mc Rocket and some others, and guess what? They always have been proven wrong. Unlike many naive and totally void of realism Europeans who are more or less clueless leftists with a severe dose of antiamericanism who only like America when democrats are elected and who cordially **** America when republicans are elected, I had a very bad feeling about Obama. Having relatives in the USA as well as having been in this country 9 times, I must say I am much more close with the right wing in the USA than with the left. Even in Europe, I would rather have and prefer a right wing government to a leftist socialist pig government. I am not the type of guy who gives up easily and when I decide not to give up, I never give up.
 
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What's it to be Georges?

i'd give up if i were you. :2 cents:

George strikes me as the kind of guy where digging is just too tempting to stop even after his eyes pass ground level.:dunno:
 
There are things that are not being said directly because it can give a bad image. Obama played the card of a "nice" guy during his campaign and there is certainly more behind the scenes or connexions with Obama and other people that was and is unknown to the voters. Criticism against the nation of Islam is needed, and criticism against community unionizers and organizers is a mandatory. Even if it oversteps the mark, the community unionizers and organizers are people dividing the country rather than uniting it, they are a danger for the society.
Neither your point of view will change and neither will mine. So that is a status quo. You consider him as a savior and I consider him as a fucking failure, this is where the debate with you ends.

Nice try but this is just absolute drivel. By this logic, it is possible to say that I'm covertly a supporter of Farrakhan and to an even greater extent so are you.
 
where is the proof that Obama like and admires Farrakhan?
If you are unable to provide it and instead veer off in one of your Tourette poems then I will be ****** to conclude that you are a supreme bullshitter blinded by a simple minded hatred.

To conclude then - find the statements made by the president that show his personal support for Farrakhan. Or admit you just made it up.


Calm down, meggy.... r-e-l-a-x

The funnest thing about this is that it took a jewish columnist .... of democratic political persuation, no doubt, to take a stand for the man who would go on to become elected as the President of the "free world" :1orglaugh
Apparently, the "O" man needed reminding that he'd better both condemn as well as distance himself from any association relative to anti semitism ... after all, he could be our next president !!! :eek: :1orglaugh :rofl:


LAS VEGAS, NV.—Following a column in Tuesday’s Washington Post titled “Obama’s Farrakhan Test,” noting that a magazine linked to Obama’s minister, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, honored Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, Barack Obama said he condemned “the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan” and disagreed with a decision to honor him.


The column, by Richard Cohen said that Trumpet Newsmagazine last year, gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to Farrakhan because he “truly epitomized greatness.”

Cohen made clear that Obama has nothing to do with Farrakhan’s anti-Semitic views. Cohen, however, called on Obama to distance himself from award because, Cohen wrote, Obama had an obligation to speak out because he could be the next president and wondered where is Obama’s “sense of outrage.”


After the column was published, Obama said in a statement, "I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan. “I assume that Trumpet Magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree."

Obama’s campaign sent the statement to several major Jewish organizations and armed some of Obama’s most prominent Jewish supporters with talking points about Obama’s strong support of Israel. The matter came up during a previously scheduled conference call w the campaign’s Jewish Community outreach.


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All these links prove is that Farrakhan supported Obama during the campaign as he was entirely free to do. Not the other way around. This was not what Jolly asked for.

The third video is just laughable. It's nothing other than a speculation piece with absolutely no journalistic merit whatsoever - you can see why Fox News would pick up the story. :rolleyes:

It's not even speculatory....it says what some person said who has no relationship to Obama's campaign...then says what Obama's campaign had to say which directly contradicted what was asserted by the first.

Would be pretty tough to EVER get a read on ANYONE if we are all products of what others erroneously and ignorantly attribute to us.
 
listen, I and other long time members have debated and argumented with some of the worst überliberals on that board, Brino, Nightfly, F o x e l i p s u s, Mc Rocket and some others, and guess what? They always have been proven wrong. Unlike many naive and totally void of realism Europeans who are more or less clueless leftists with a severe dose of antiamericanism who only like America when democrats are elected and who cordially **** America when republicans are elected, I had a very bad feeling about Obama. Having relatives in the USA as well as having been in this country 9 times, I must say I am much more close with the right wing in the USA than with the left. Even in Europe, I would rather have and prefer a right wing government to a leftist socialist pig government. I am not the type of guy who gives up easily and when I decide not to give up, I never give up.

well, good luck. :dunno:
 
ok look.
we can beat this ***** forever.
no matter what you guys see you will deny everything shown to you.
but really with this guys associations, actions and words during his adult life does merit suspicion and concern to those who give a **** about the country.
Can that be denied?
The old saying, if it smells like it and looks like it it's probably it.
And like I said do you really think he's gonna say "yes, I know and admire Farahkan"., that would be naive.
In the words of his "mentor" Rev Wright "those jews will never let me get near him again".

You guys are big on Hating Hitler right?
Ok so if hitler endorsed a candidate, called him the Messiah and the savior, would that be a red flag?

So for me, the people who love him so much like super lib ***********, people like farakhan and politicians which i believe put personal interests ahead of the good of the country, the young and naive, and blacks who voted for him simply because he's black are big red flags and i cant be on board with them.

Time will tell.
 
ok look.
we can beat this ***** forever.
no matter what you guys see you will deny everything shown to you.
but really with this guys associations, actions and words during his adult life does merit suspicion and concern to those who give a **** about the country.
Can that be denied?
The old saying, if it smells like it and looks like it it's probably it.
And like I said do you really think he's gonna say "yes, I know and admire Farahkan"., that would be naive.
In the words of his "mentor" Rev Wright "those jews will never let me get near him again".

You guys are big on Hating Hitler right?
Ok so if hitler endorsed a candidate, called him the Messiah and the savior, would that be a red flag?

So for me, the people who love him so much like super lib ***********, people like farakhan and politicians which i believe put personal interests ahead of the good of the country, the young and naive, and blacks who voted for him simply because he's black are big red flags and i cant be on board with them.

Time will tell.

What "words"( from Obama)? Be specific...we'll wait.
 
playing what?
I suppose in your mind you've won something.
in reality i just dont want to waste anymore time debating with you and your friends.
Obama's just awesome, ok.
 
playing what?
I suppose in your mind you've won something.
in reality i just dont want to waste anymore time debating with you and your friends.
Obama's just awesome, ok.
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As far as I'm see it every fucking president since Kennedy has gotten it wrong. We need to worry about our own country first and then everyone else. Obama has been trying and has had a few hits and misses, but I say this He is TRYING.

As for him not having the experiance well about 200 years ago there was this guy named George Washington and he didn't know what the fuck he was doing and it turned out okay.
 
We have 3 more years to decide if Obama was a good President or not. Then we have the choice to decide if he'll be good for 4 more years. Then we'll get to pick again.

I personally think the dems have a lock on the executive branch until 2020. Hillary will definitely run in 2016. If Obama's recovery works, the republicans will not hold the executive branch for a long, long time.

As for the house and senate, until there's real campaign finance reform, it'll swing either way. I don't think the right has 2010 midterms as sewn up as they all want to believe, they'll recapture about 20 house seats for sure, but the senate you'll be able to count it on one hand.
 
I am a pornstar but I am also a Republican. I am moderate but I will consider anyone if they are on message and I think they could bring improvements. I voted for W both times not because I liked him but because he was the better of the 2 choices.

I don't buy into the birth certificate nonsense, that's as ridiculous as the far left claiming George W was responsible for 911. Nonsense! However, I think that Obama is in office because of the horrible job W did and no one on the right could have won that election. The momentum was too strong and Obama is an amazing speaker. He was the right color, said the right things and has a good looking ****** and even spoke out on young blacks and the way they dress and the rap culture being destructive to their people. Amen to that. I applaud him on that.
However, the media has been in love with him and has slanted everything harmful away from him and ignored anything remotely negative. He has yet to fulfill anything other than a horseshit health care plan that will cost California alone $10 Billion as it stands now if it's ******! Who is going to pay for that?
He needs to study the Reagan economic plans and cut taxes and get rid of capital gains for a few years so that people aren't penalized for selling houses or making money. That is what stimulates economic growth and it's proven to be true. Raising taxes on those who actually drive the economy causes them to hold onto their money.

Newt had a great idea to bail us out of the recession. No one pays income taxes until August of 2010. So 8 months of tax free income. That would stimulate the economy and would the same as bailing out companies but instead would bail out main street.

Just my 2 cents. I hope he does well but I don't see it happening with Pellosi and Reid at his elbows.
 
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