Obama's approval rate drops......

[D-rock]

The problem with the president is that, though he is a very intelligent man, he's educated, he's popular or at least all the "popular" **** like him, is that everything he believes in is wrong for this country.

This country was founded and was made great by people who were very independent and individualistic, they would take care of themselves and would VOLUTARILY take care of their own, whereas the president and his ilk want to take care of all of us and ***** US to take care of everyone else.

So, your saying the country was founded by people that got lucky and were in the right place at the right time. That may be true, but your entire premise is confusing correlation with causation. You ignore all the potential people that that could have helped and built up the country if they ever had a chance. Of course only the people that had a reasonable chance and got lucky where the ones that succeeded, the other people COULDN'T. As a country wouldn’t make sense to broaden the number of people that can make the country great to absolutely everybody or at least as many people as possible, and take out luck and circumstance as much as possible. For some reason people like you pretend it wouldn't have been better any way else. Instead of thinking of it as ******* people to take care of others that are put in a situation where they reasonably can't, (You know, something that's their civic, moral, and ethical duty anyhow.) why don't you think of helping others to achieve what they otherwise wouldn't reasonably be able to as an investment in the us, something that really would make the country better.

Does this country always have to have a me me me me type of attitude? You have yet to explain how not helping as many people as possible is even the "wrong direction for the country". Be honest with yourself. It's not the wrong direction for the country, you just think it's the wrong direction for you because you probably won't personally gain from it. (Other than the country might get better as a whole, but for some reason that never counts when personal selfishness is at stake.) Or maybe it's just blind ideology with no actual reasoning to back it up. It's hard to tell sometimes.

 

[georges]

As i said and i will repeat it again and again, socialism and communism are the equal distribution of misery. What works in Europe doesn't necessarily work in the USA, end of story.

 

[bodie54]

How very true :yesyes: He likes Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson and scum like Oprah.
As the saying goes by "Birds of feather flock together."

Do you mind me asking what makes Oprah "scum"?

Obama has common cause with Farrakhan and Jackson on two major issues: 1) encouraging black voter registration and 2) encouraging responsible parenting by black fathers. I'm sure you'd agree those are very positive goals that aren't the least bit anti american. Having common cause with someone doesn't mean you necessarily "like" them, or that you agree with them on all issues. Look at Patton and Montgomery, for instance. They pretty much detested each other but they still worked towards a common cause.

To be honest with you, your views are anti american and they value communautarianism and socialism as well as the **** of the second amendment.

Friday On My Mind has stated on many many occasions that he supports the second amendment.

 

[bodie54]

Capitalist economys only work if there is little government interference.

I guess you haven't heard that even some of the strongest proponents of laissez faire capitalism, like Alan Greenspan for instance, have changed their tunes in the **** of the 2008 economic meltdown. Do you know what complex derivatives are? Are you aware of the enormous role they played in that meltdown?

I'll be eligible to run soon. Either that or vote for the next Constitution Party candidate.

Of course his approval ratings are dropping. It's just sad that it took this long for so many people to realize this guy has no qualified experience to run anything and is nothing more than a glorified community organizer!

Maybe, a janitor for an Illinois prison.

Remind us again what you do for a living, Will?
As I recall it wasn't too long ago you were attempting to live off the public dole.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Ok you like to play tough games, you will have it rough. My grammar,let me tell you one thing,is way better than yours. You have written your or youre so quit fucking lecturing me if I have made a mistake one time or two in a whole year when you consistantly write like an undereducated person who has not even finished college, so shut up.
Second, is Obama a wasp? I don't that is the case. Obama is first of all an African American, a false christian, he is more sympathetic of muslims than christians, but I guess you don't give a **** about that since you were blinded by the Obamamania since the beginning.
And you claim yourself to be a good old born and bred American? But are you really born in the USA or did you emigrated years ago from another country to America? To be honest with you, your views are anti american and they value communautarianism and socialism as well as the **** of the second amendment.
I have more than enough knowledge about the History of France and the USA, I doubt it is your case but I guess I can't make of an undereducated person an educated one.
The society where we live in is not about communautarianism and false as well as unrealistic promises but about concrete measures against gang phenomenon, criminality, lazy ********* to work people, terrorism, underground economy, theft, fraud and scum in general. Obama failed, face it.

I really am not a grammar **** ,it's the ideas that are more repugnant and important ,but one or two mistakes is a laughable claim but again it's not very important.And as Bodie points out below you make many claims again that really are in sharp contrast to known facts and your posts really are just so much right wing bigoted over the top noise that only would appeal to a very low IQ.Every country and culture has had such types and probably always will.I know for example france has a rich history of great minds and a great history and then there are the bigots like yourself.

You say things like "Is Obama a wasp" for example as though only wasps could be a true american which is a truly un-american notion.We are a melting pot of many people cultures and religions.I am a wasp BTW.I wonder,do you consider wasps the only true frenchmen?

Only a racist bigot would claim the only true american was a wasp, or maybe you might accept others as long as they are white right? Or why else do you talk about Obama being black.Don't answer that we all know why,you are not even good at being covert with your bias,might as well just come out and say what you really mean,most of us get it very clearly.

Do you mind me asking what makes Oprah "scum"?

Obama has common cause with Farrakhan and Jackson on two major issues: 1) encouraging black voter registration and 2) encouraging responsible parenting by black fathers. I'm sure you'd agree those are very positive goals that aren't the least bit anti american. Having common cause with someone doesn't mean you necessarily "like" them, or that you agree with them on all issues. Look at Patton and Montgomery, for instance. They pretty much detested each other but they still worked towards a common cause.



Friday On My Mind has stated on many many occasions that he supports the second amendment.

You have a good memory .
You are right I support the 2nd amendment,my opinion is we might need our guns someday to clean things up here against certain people.I know the other side feels the same way ,and they have guns so I think lefties should as well.:eek:

One of the other things he mis-states is I was an Obama supporter before he was nominated.I originally was for Edwards,then Hillary.

And his reference to Oprah and other blacks really says a lot more about his racial views then it does about the people named.And the people who have chimed in saying to his posts "right on" are just displaying their bias as well.But again as I said earlier in the post all countries and cultures have had such.Racism ,intolerance, ignorance and and hatred and not new or unique.

Debating such people is fruitless though, they really should just be ignored
and marginalized as being beyond the pale of acceptable speech.Call it PC or whatever you like but at some point society's have to draw the line on what is acceptable.And bigotry is one place the line should be drawn.

One of the funnier things I find in many posts and I have to say I really am more mildly amused at most of what I read then made angry or shocked by them is how some here will claim they love the constitution and rights and justice as provided by it but then just put up posts that are in direct contadiction to that.It really is pointless to point such things out though as they can always rationalize and justify their exceptions.What they of course fail to understand is that once you allow any exception to rights and due process the entire concept of such things is at risk and all people rights are in jeopardy.

 

[JacknCoke]

republicans: Obama sucks a big one!

Democrats: I want to suck Obama's big one



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[meesterperfect]

You have a good memory .
You are right I support the 2nd amendment,my opinion is we might need our guns someday to clean things up here against certain people.I know the other side feels the same way ,and they have guns so I think lefties should as well.:eek:

One of the other things he mis-states is I was an Obama supporter before he was nominated.I originally was for Edwards,then Hillary.

And his reference to Oprah and other blacks really says a lot more about his racial views then it does about the people named.And the people who have chimed in saying to his posts "right on" are just displaying their bias as well.But again as I said earlier in the post all countries and cultures have had such.Racism ,intolerance, ignorance and and hatred and not new or unique.

Debating such people is fruitless though, they really should just be ignored
and marginalized as being beyond the pale of acceptable speech.Call it PC or whatever you like but at some point society's have to draw the line on what is acceptable.And bigotry is one place the line should be drawn.

One of the funnier things I find in many posts and I have to say I really am more mildly amused at most of what I read then made angry or shocked by them is how some here will claim they love the constitution and rights and justice as provided by it but then just put up posts that are in direct contadiction to that.It really is pointless to point such things out though as they can always rationalize and justify their exceptions.What they of course fail to understand is that once you allow any exception to rights and due process the entire concept of such things is at risk and all people rights are in jeopardy.

friday i read ypur post 3 times.
did you just completely contradict yourself?

One thing said was about his "racial view" on people like oprah "and others".
the others he mentioned were jackson and farrahkan.
Thats not all blacks, thats 3 specific people.
DId You play the race card and say he feels that way about all blacks.
But what if he does? are you denying someone the right to their feelings?
Personally, Jesse and farrahkan are open racists, theyve shown that time and time again.
And The Oprah? Do you think she supported Obama so much based on his record?
No it was because of his skin color. What does that make her?

My point about you contradicting yourself. At one point you say you are for the constitution and next you say "acceptable speech.Call it PC or whatever you like but at some point society's have to draw the line on what is acceptable.And bigotry is one place the line should be drawn"

Acceptable? What is acceptable, and who accepts what?
What is bigotry? Who decides what it is? The majority?
Do You mean silence them?
So which is it, free speech or acceptable speech?

One more thing. I personally based on what ive seen in my life dont like alot of things in the black culture in the USA. The crime rate and the welfare rate and the huge % of unwed motherhood. I dont dislike all blacks and wish everybody the best.
Am I a bigot? A racist? Or someone who saw something he didnt like and made a decision about my feelings?
Should my feelings be swayed by fear of the label "racist" and what is deemed acceptable thoughts?


And do you really think the people you may have to arm yourself against are republicans?
Hopefully yes, but I doubt it.
:glugglug:

 

[Mrs Jolly]

How very true :yesyes: He likes Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson and scum like Oprah.
As the saying goes by "Birds of feather flock together."

Bullshit of the first order. Where has BO ever said that he likes Farrakhan -other than in your head?

I have previously openly mocked your ignorance, here is your chance to make a golden ass of me. Just supply the reference where Obama praises Rev Farrakhan, or admit that you just make this **** up.

Perhaps you should start by explaining this speech?

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[Hot Mega]

As i said and i will repeat it again and again, socialism and communism are the equal distribution of misery. What works in Europe doesn't necessarily work in the USA, end of story.

Beyond all of the cliche's....there are people who make for example $20 million dollars per year in the US....your sober contention is that if they pay some percentage higher in taxes to support a public school system (for example)....these people's remaining disposable income will be so affected they will be miserable?

Again Georges, I don't ask that you be the smartest contributor to FOs talk....just that you make a tiny modicum of sense every once in awhile in your political posts.:dunno:

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

Conservative: a statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others”

“The Democrats are the party of government activism, the party that says government can make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed out of your lawn. Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then get elected and prove it.”

Tough to make everyone happy!

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

Too bad Obama's presidency isn't around the same length as he was senator.

The truth is they will not come up with a worthy candidate, too much in fighting in the party. The Dem's will rally around Obama and the Rep's will rally arounf 3 different ones. 2016 will be the year.

 

[meesterperfect]

Bullshit of the first order. Where has BO ever said that he likes Farrakhan -other than in your head?

I have previously openly mocked your ignorance, here is your chance to make a golden ass of me. Just supply the reference where Obama praises Rev Farrakhan, or admit that you just make this **** up.

Perhaps you should start by explaining this speech?

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youre right jolly he never said that, in public.
he actually said the opposite when hillary confronted him with his farakhan connections.
obama denounced him.
but with all do common sense in the matter ofcourse he wasnt gonna say "yes, i love the anti white, anti jew promoter of hatred and racial divisiveness".
so i take that for what its worth, not much.

but it is fact obama was very much involved in the million man march in 95 with farakhan, sharpton and his self proclaimed "mentor" wright, the right reverend wright.
its been said although its hard to find documentation that obama worked very close to farakhan in orginizing the fiasc..the event.

now wright has praised farakhan many times, thats fact.
obama did attend wrights church for 20 years, thats fact.
(which means he listened to the guy for 1,100 sundays.)
and farakhan has called obama the savior and the messiah and nation of islam has did support obama for years, also donated alot to his uprising, thats fact.
So one must ask why would such a anti white, anti jew, anti government, anti social group as big as the nation of islam support obama in such an enthusiatic way?

I hope i havnt come across as a little schoolgirl with my post. if you still like i'll fuck off back to the playground again.

 

[ThatRedWing]

The truth is they will not come up with a worthy candidate, too much in fighting in the party. The Dem's will rally around Obama and the Rep's will rally arounf 3 different ones. 2016 will be the year.

Historically speaking this seems unlikely as there has never been three consecutive two term Presidents. Not that it makes a difference anyhow. I don't trust any polititian much less any that are running for President. Whatever, acknowledge and move on.:wave2:

 

[bodie54]

but it is fact obama was very much involved in the million man march in 95 with farakhan, sharpton and his self proclaimed "mentor" wright, the right reverend wright.
its been said although its hard to find documentation that obama worked very close to farakhan in orginizing the fiasc..the event.

now wright has praised farakhan many times, thats fact.
obama did attend wrights church for 20 years, thats fact.
(which means he listened to the guy for 1,100 sundays.)
and farakhan has called obama the savior and the messiah and nation of islam has did support obama for years, also donated alot to his uprising, thats fact.
So one must ask why would such a anti white, anti jew, anti government, anti social group as big as the nation of islam support obama in such an enthusiatic way?

Your question is for Mega, but I already addressed this in post 123

Here's a repost:

Obama has common cause with Farrakhan and Jackson on two major issues: 1) encouraging black voter registration and 2) encouraging responsible parenting by black fathers. I'm sure you'd agree those are very positive goals that aren't the least bit anti american. Having common cause with someone doesn't mean you necessarily "like" them, or that you agree with them on all issues. Look at Patton and Montgomery, for instance. They pretty much detested each other but they still worked towards a common cause.

Those two issues were a primary focus of the million man march.

 

[Facetious]

Ever since the presidents' failed attempt to charm the Olympic committee - (Brasil 2016 arty: lol !) it's been an uphill battle . Respect is earned not deserved. :hatsoff:

 

[meesterperfect]

Your question is for Mega, but I already addressed this in post 123

Here's a repost:



Those two issues were a primary focus of the million man march.

ok.
why encourage black voter registration?
is that the same thing as voting for the black one?
is that the same thing as pure racism?
responsible fatherhood? that wasnt an issue of it.
(maybe if obama devoted 1/100th of his senatorial effort in responsible fatherhood instead of planned parenthood aka tax payer supported abortion clinic middleman I might buy it).
youve been bamboozled, hoodwinked.
gimme gimme gimme. work? school? fuck that **** mothafucka.

to many including myself the thing was an endorsement of divisiness and playing the victim by blaming whites and republicans for their not being rich but most of all to get people to vote democrat....because farakhan sees that as the fastest way for the country, the economy and the white devil society to go down the tollet. Starting to look like he was right!
And Obama took part in it, the great uniter that he is.

but to you bodes it was simply about voting and fatherhood.
ok, fine with me.

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[georges]

Beyond all of the cliche's....there are people who make for example $20 million dollars per year in the US....your sober contention is that if they pay some percentage higher in taxes to support a public school system (for example)....these people's remaining disposable income will be so affected they will be miserable?

Again Georges, I don't ask that you be the smartest contributor to FOs talk....just that you make a tiny modicum of sense every once in awhile in your political posts.:dunno:

I make more sense than you do. I have lived in a system which was based on the redistribution of taxes levied on salaries of the honest hardworking citizens. We have made 30 years of social assisting in France where the non working and assisted people benefitted of social helps, financial helps and even got flats/appartment in priority before born and bred French citizens. And guess who always benefitted from these helps? Migrants from the Magrheb. Have they integrated themselves well in our society? No, not really. It was also the same thing during 30 years in Sweden but they decided to change that.
****** charity is never a good thing. I don't give a damn if one is miserable or not, I am not ****** theresa, my money is my money. I have worked hard enough to get my salary so I have my own right to manage my money how I want.

 

[georges]

Bullshit of the first order. Where has BO ever said that he likes Farrakhan -other than in your head?

I have previously openly mocked your ignorance, here is your chance to make a golden ass of me. Just supply the reference where Obama praises Rev Farrakhan, or admit that you just make this **** up.

Perhaps you should start by explaining this speech?

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Nation of islam, do you know what it means, do you? It seems your logic is like a fucking tree stump.
The one who is ignorant, it is you "wise" madam. Anyone who thinks that Rev Wright or Jesse Jackson weren't supportive of Farrakhan is an ignorant imbecile. Perhaps you live in a scummy suburb filled with ghetto gang members were on the wall of your residence is written :"snitches get stitches" make you scared of these people. Your mockery is lame as much as you are.

 

[MILF Man]

Reid plans Christmas Eve vote on healthcare bill... the guy has gone over the edge.

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I read an article about a month ago where he threatened the editor of the Las Vegas newspaper for daring to run an editorial criticizing Reid's "leadership." I hope that backfired on the jackass... freedom of press is kind of important.

Just another liberal jackass! What a bully!

 

[bodie54]

why encourage black voter registration?

Because the primary focus of the event was about self help and self empowerment; about blacks taking a more active role in society and more responsibility for their lives and families, which includes participation in the electoral process.

responsible fatherhood? that wasnt an issue of it.

OK, whatever you say. I watched the speeches on TV, read them verbatim, and every single source I've even seen, including the contemporary ones, report that as a major part of the message.....but apparently you know otherwise, based on.... ?????? :dunno:

but to you bodes it was simply about voting and fatherhood.

Not to me. I'm not speaking an opinion, I'm reporting facts based on observation and research. And it wasn't only about voting and fatherhood; in a broader sense it was about responsible living and active participation on many levels, including political.